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Gotta buy a ticket to win the lottery. Might be a long shot but if the Tiges had pick 2 I'd be saying the same thing. Makes no sense to not trade pick 2, you need an at least semi established star rather than go down the drafting high picks route again which has got the club where exactly?
 
Melbourne's issue is the player drafted at #2 isn't a standout.

Boyd is the clear Number 1.

Then it Aish & Scharnberg. Probably a gap to Kelly, Billings and McDonald.

You don't give away a player like Sloane, Beams & co for a borderline player.
 
No chance of coming to Melbourne. I think they may be using pick 2 as the decoy, seeing what is up for trade and then saying x player isn't worth pick 2 but we have pick 20. Example Bernie Vince.
Yep, agree with this. Roos isnt trading pick 2 unless its a proven star. No way it will be for a gaggle of geese.

As you say though, it will help flush out who is really seen as expendable at other clubs.

and yes, I'd do the Vince for 20.
 
Gotta buy a ticket to win the lottery. Might be a long shot but if the Tiges had pick 2 I'd be saying the same thing. Makes no sense to not trade pick 2, you need an at least semi established star rather than go down the drafting high picks route again which has got the club where exactly?


It does if what is offered isn't worth it.

As far as the draft having the right people making the decisions on the draft and the right people in place to develop them will make all the difference.
 

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What do the other pies supporters think. I like Steele but he isn't consistent enou for me. His a great user of the ball one of the smartest. But it's pointless if he doesn't get the pill enough. I'm usually expecting him to get at least 25+ possession in at least 18/22 games for someone of his ability.

I'm willing to gamble on the draft(albeit pick 2 should be minimal risk) to try snare another superstar who could help us to our next premiership. We need another solid contributor since swan only has a couple of years left. We would at the moment only have pendles and beamsy to carry most the work. We need another if we want to win another premiership.

Think in their premiership years
Swans - mcveigh hannebury Kennedy jack
Geelong - selwood bartel Kelly Corey
Pies - pendles swan ball Thomas
Eagles - judd cousins Kerr embley
Lions - voss black lappin akermanis
 
Pick 2 won't be handed over without the right player coming our way.

Your naivety is astounding. If you honestly believe that you probably still believe in Santa Claus. You will trade pick 2 for the best offer going. Now I'm not saying it will be us. Your club cannot sustain another year like last year. All this talk that it must be this, it must be quality is pure spin and bulldust.
 
Your naivety is astounding. If you honestly believe that you probably still believe in Santa Claus. You will trade pick 2 for the best offer going. Now I'm not saying it will be us. Your club cannot sustain another year like last year. All this talk that it must be this, it must be quality is pure spin and bulldust.

Nice try but no cigar. The club has alreay stated that if they don't get a trade they like they'll take the pick to the draft.

Have fun trolling though :)
 
Your naivety is astounding. If you honestly believe that you probably still believe in Santa Claus. You will trade pick 2 for the best offer going. Now I'm not saying it will be us. Your club cannot sustain another year like last year. All this talk that it must be this, it must be quality is pure spin and bulldust.


Haha alright mate, but handing something like pick 2 over for a player with 2 years left in them would damage us more than if we took a kid to develop over the next few years.
 
What Melbourne is doing is the same as what GWS tried with pick 1. Throw it out there that you might trade, see what is willing to be thrown your way and then see if it is worth it. No-one bit at GWS when they said it mid-year so they committed to Boyd, Melbourne are trying to see if they can get someone but I'll put money on them still holding it come draft day.
 
To get Hannerbery Melbourne would have to offer 2 & 20 at an absolute min.
 

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What Melbourne is doing is the same as what GWS tried with pick 1. Throw it out there that you might trade, see what is willing to be thrown your way and then see if it is worth it. No-one bit at GWS when they said it mid-year so they committed to Boyd, Melbourne are trying to see if they can get someone but I'll put money on them still holding it come draft day.

Im not so sure GWS have already gone past the Demons. Boyd for GWS makes some sort of sense, it gives them the potential to have a power forward line for 8-10 years. The Demons on the other hand are struggling to attract players and to a lesser extent senior coaches. Roos has signed for 2 years. The AFL bailed them out big time. However, next time there will be no bailout. Roos will pull the pin this year and trade out pick 2 for the best deal he can get. All their talk is just club spin. Demons are desperate and time is not on their side.
 
Im not so sure GWS have already gone past the Demons. Boyd for GWS makes some sort of sense, it gives them the potential to have a power forward line for 8-10 years. The Demons on the other hand are struggling to attract players and to a lesser extent senior coaches. Roos has signed for 2 years. The AFL bailed them out big time. However, next time there will be no bailout. Roos will pull the pin this year and trade out pick 2 for the best deal he can get. All their talk is just club spin. Demons are desperate and time is not on their side.


They will piss off more members if they throw away pick two than they would if we had another shit year....I can see your point but I personally don't agree that is the way it will play out.
Come draft day I think we will still have pick 2 in hand.
 
Pick 2 and Mitch Clarke for pick 1!

Hogan and Boyd developing together would rebuild this club!!
 
Im not so sure GWS have already gone past the Demons. Boyd for GWS makes some sort of sense, it gives them the potential to have a power forward line for 8-10 years. The Demons on the other hand are struggling to attract players and to a lesser extent senior coaches. Roos has signed for 2 years. The AFL bailed them out big time. However, next time there will be no bailout. Roos will pull the pin this year and trade out pick 2 for the best deal he can get. All their talk is just club spin. Demons are desperate and time is not on their side.
Take your trolling to your club board where you might get some support.

The club may believe that the mid available at pick 2 may end up being no better than a mid at pick 10, so it may be feasible that we do a trade that involves pick 2 for an established B grader + a 1st round pick in the early teens. That's not desperation on our part. That's smart trading, which is something that Roos did well at Sydney.

I'm not sold on Aish, so I'd be happy for above to occur.
 
I don't think pick #2 will cover the holes in the previous six years of drafting not paying off.

Melbourne will more than likely be giving pick #2 away for a player they could have taken themselves but passed on in order to pick; (2007 Pick#4) Cale Morton, (2007 Pick#21) Addam Maric, (2008 Pick#1) Jack Watts, (2008 Pick#17) Sam Blease, (2009 Pick#1) Tom Scully [unlucky one], (2009 Pick#11) Jordan Gysberts, (2010 Pick#12) Lucas Cook and trading pick#12 for Mitch Clark [again, unlucky].

That run of luck looks to have changed last year. I don't think a draft pick is worth half as much as it's made out to be.

Pick #2 to a club that can give Melbourne two picks inside the top 12 in exchange. Increase the spread of new talent.
 

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No chance of coming to Melbourne. I think they may be using pick 2 as the decoy, seeing what is up for trade and then saying x player isn't worth pick 2 but we have pick 20. Example Bernie Vince.

You'd be fricken bonkers to trade #20 for Vince.

MAYBE and i still think this is an average deal but Crows 3rd + Vince for Pick 20 might be on the mark.
 
You'd be fricken bonkers to trade #20 for Vince.

MAYBE and i still think this is an average deal but Crows 3rd + Vince for Pick 20 might be on the mark.
Sounds right to me. And they can have the third rounder back for Lyons, although that's probably stretching it too far.

Adelaide should really look to take what they can get from us for Vince and trade it for Polec. He's the potential high class talent that they wont get anywhere else in these 2 years of draft penalties.
 
Your naivety is astounding. If you honestly believe that you probably still believe in Santa Claus. You will trade pick 2 for the best offer going. Now I'm not saying it will be us. Your club cannot sustain another year like last year. All this talk that it must be this, it must be quality is pure spin and bulldust.
We will trade if the deal is right. The club has in mind what they want. If the offer doesn't equate to pick 2 then we will look at trading second round and or Sylvia compo.

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Melbourne's issue is the player drafted at #2 isn't a standout.

Boyd is the clear Number 1.

Then it Aish & Scharnberg. Probably a gap to Kelly, Billings and McDonald.

You don't give away a player like Sloane, Beams & co for a borderline player.
This is spot on. With no standout at 2 it will be hard to get a top line mid.

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Im not so sure GWS have already gone past the Demons. Boyd for GWS makes some sort of sense, it gives them the potential to have a power forward line for 8-10 years. The Demons on the other hand are struggling to attract players and to a lesser extent senior coaches. Roos has signed for 2 years. The AFL bailed them out big time. However, next time there will be no bailout. Roos will pull the pin this year and trade out pick 2 for the best deal he can get. All their talk is just club spin. Demons are desperate and time is not on their side.
Melbourne get Hogan next year who is better than Boyd. Melbourne will also be the big surprise next season and not because of Roos. Melbourne go through next year with minimal injuries they win 10 games. Think get the players onto the field they didn't have fit like Clarke, Trengrove and the rest, another year into the younger players like Viney and add Hogan.

Paul Roos has taken on Melbourne knowing this. Melbourne's list is nowhere near as bad as some make out, also they're players are not as badly developed as many make out. They've had problems with injuries to senior players and behind the eight ball with the loss of senior players, couple with the dislike of Neeld which led to no motivation. Roos doesn't have to do much to get them to 8-10 wins next season, develop well and he has 10 wins. Make finals in year 2, extend by one year and make PF in year 3 walk away a Melbourne FC hero and his coaching record enhanced.
 
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