Pick 2

[CWaffles]

We will end up taking pick 2 into the draft...not going to get shafted for it.

 

[daniel23]

this is just wishful thinking from Melbourne , pick 2 seems its pretty clear cut in james aish , Melbourne would expect someone like shuey, Sloane , Stephan hille as examples don't see why a club would trade in a young 18 year with talent with no guarantees he will even get close to what they are going to have to give away ? at least with boyd he is potentially filling a clubs needs , everyone knows Melbourne is not going to be a quick fix they should back there young talent and maybe try pick up a couple more experienced players on the cheap to help

 

[CWaffles]

this is just wishful thinking from Melbourne , pick 2 seems its pretty clear cut in james aish , Melbourne would expect someone like shuey, Sloane , Stephan hille as examples don't see why a club would trade in a young 18 year with talent with no guarantees he will even get close to what they are going to have to give away ? at least with boyd he is potentially filling a clubs needs , everyone knows Melbourne is not going to be a quick fix they should back there young talent and maybe try pick up a couple more experienced players on the cheap to help

It may just be, but lets be honest you get nowhere in life if you don't ask the question...worst a club can say is no and then we just keep our pick 2.

 

[Punchy Demons]

Pick 2 will be a young (albeit a very good) midfield with plenty of potential.

So Pick 2 for Redden or Rockliff rumours need to stop right there. Why would we trade a Redden or Rockliff, 22 and 23 years of age (still young and a long career ahead of them) for a young midfielder who isn't actually proven. Plenty of Top 2 picks have turned out to be no-where near as good as Redden or Rockliff in the past. Our midfield is fine. If pick 2 was going to be a Tom Boyd-like player, then this rumoured offer would be viewed more seriously. Pick 2 is very different from Pick 1 in this draft. We need a young KPF.

And If Roos is so keen to coach Redden or Rockliff, he blew his chance already.

You made valid points until this dribble came out of your mouth!

Blew his chance? He didn't want to coach you guys otherwise he would be. Angus Johnson & his merry men were the only ones who blew their chance of anything when they went off half cocked!

 

[SSSSSS]

Suckling and our two first rounders for pick 2 and a swap of second rounds?

Dunno if that would go through. Personally would rather keep him and don't think it will happen but food for thought.

Could even give you back Cheney Maybe Sewell wants to finish up on a nice deserved pay packet.

 

[the distributer]

I mean get Cross instead of trading for Shaw, I'd be happy to trade 2 for the right player.

Not likely at all given what Mahoney and Roos have said

You won't get an elite 21~24 year old mid unless a mid of that calibre wants to come home to Victoria, you'll have to take unders IMO, I wouldn't rule out my scenario, we might even throw in pick 30 to sweeten the deal.

 

[Crawb]

You made valid points until this dribble came out of your mouth!

Blew his chance? He didn't want to coach you guys otherwise he would be. Angus Johnson & his merry men were the only ones who blew their chance of anything when they went off half cocked!

And I suppose Paul Roos really liked what he saw at MFC? If we had as much as Melbourne (well really the AFL actually) to offer, I doubt he'd be coaching at the Demons in 2014...

 

[Punchy Demons]

Suckling and our two first rounders for pick 2 and a swap of second rounds?

Dunno if that would go through. Personally would rather keep him and don't think it will happen but food for thought.

Could even give you back Cheney Maybe Sewell wants to finish up on a nice deserved pay packet.

No it wouldn't do it. We need ball winning mids. Not two more draft picks & a hbf coming off a knee

 

[Punchy Demons]

And I suppose Paul Roos really liked what he saw at MFC? If we had as much as Melbourne (well really the AFL actually) to offer, I doubt he'd be coaching at the Demons in 2014...

If your aunty had balls she would be your uncle!

Doubt what ever you like the fact is Roos chose us over you whether you like it or not & whether the AFL gave us money or coerced him to coach us it's irrelevant.

Like I said you made valid points but then ended it with a childish comment

 

[the distributer]

Fwiw the collingwood board draft guru (knightmare) has Aish at 3.

 

[Furn2]

Ok my very simple pick 2 flow chart for players.

1.Does your deal include a player 28 or over and not GAJ ?-Yes- NO DEAL
NO- goto 2.
2.Does your deal include a player aged 25-27 ? - Yes goto 3
No - goto 4.
3. Is your player in the top 30 in the comp ? Yes- OK DEAL
4. Is your player 21-24 ? Yes-goto 5
No-goto 6
5. Is your player in the best 60 players in the comp ? Yes- OK DEAL
6.Is your player your player 21 or under and in the best 120 players in the league ? Yes- OK DEAL
NO-NO deal.

 

[the distributer]

We will end up taking pick 2 into the draft...not going to get shafted for it.

All depends on how your recruiters rate the draft, they may feel its fairly even after pick 1, if they do a top 10 pick and a quality player might seal the deal, and I don't buy the Mahoney line they only want a mid, fact is they need help all over the park.

 

[Theo X]

Fwiw the collingwood board draft guru (knightmare) has Aish at 3.

Aish's at 2 in his phantom draft.

All depends on how your recruiters rate the draft, they may feel its fairly even after pick 1, if they do a top 10 pick and a quality player might seal the deal, and I don't buy the Mahoney line they only want a mid, fact is they need help all over the park.

Nah, our back and forward lines are pretty good really.

 

[the distributer]

Aish's at 2 in his phantom draft.

Nah, our back and forward lines are pretty good really.

sorry mate, he said today he rated him at 3 for our needs, 2 overall.

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

Sidebottom might be one that Collingwood might consider trading.

 

[Astro Bomber]

I dont see the point of trading a young gun for a high draft pick. Maybe a 28+ year old star but thats about it.

 

[CWaffles]

All depends on how your recruiters rate the draft, they may feel its fairly even after pick 1, if they do a top 10 pick and a quality player might seal the deal, and I don't buy the Mahoney line they only want a mid, fact is they need help all over the park.

What don't you buy about it? its a fact we are desperate for mids that can have an impact fairly quickly...Forward line there is actually pretty good, we lack a small forward but that can be looked at another year.
Back line wouldn't be under so much pressure if we had a midfield that could win the ball and stop the opposition from getting it into their forward 50.

Pick 2 will be used on a mid, be it through the draft or we trade with one with a few years under his belt.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

I don't get the value pick 2 holds in this draft.

Melb want a quality midfielder, why would you give up an established quality midfielder for a spec pick on an 18yr ld midfielder you hope might come good. Doesn't add or change your squad in any way.

Pick 1 on the other hand makes sense, sure trade an established midfielder in the hope of securing a key position player, that alters your structure at least

 

[The Falcon Strike]

No its Shuey + Gaff + Pick 6 for pick 2.

and Darling

We get first dibs on Lucas Cook though

 

[Praetorian]

I don't get the value pick 2 holds in this draft.

Melb want a quality midfielder, why would you give up an established quality midfielder for a spec pick on an 18yr ld midfielder you hope might come good. Doesn't add or change your squad in any way.

Pick 1 on the other hand makes sense, sure trade an established midfielder in the hope of securing a key position player, that alters your structure at least

is true, we just have to hope their is a decent player that wants out, no club will voluntarily make that deal unless their hand is forced

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

What would people think about Hawthorn's second round pick, Jonathon Simpkin, Matt Spangher, Kyle Cheney and a packet of salt and vinegar chips for pick 2?

Need to give up quality to get quality. Would have to offer up someone like Birchall before Melbourne begin to consider negotiating.

Throw in Luke Lowden and you have a deal.

 

[CWaffles]

is true, we just have to hope their is a decent player that wants out, no club will voluntarily make that deal unless their hand is forced

I agree with this, Melbourne are probably sounding out if there are any mids that are homesick and may want to return to Vic with a few years experience.

If there isn't then we hold onto it and take a kid from the draft.

 

[maverick001]

I wouldn't trade Shuey AND pick 6, it would either be Shuey or nothing, we've been railed enough times in recent trade weeks

There is no chance we will trade Shuey for pick 2. None

....unless he has stated he wants to go home (in which case if we trade him this yr we get pick 2, but not if next yr when he comes out of contract)

 

[Moist Biscuit]

Armitage and #23 for pick 2?

 

[syl]

Nope.

Let's just see what pans out then dearest.