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Sloane's not going anywhere. There'd be a riot if he got traded. Same goes for Crouch. (and Danger, and Talia).

Bottom line, we won't be trading for pick 2.


And therein lies the problem. No one is willing to give up a decent player for the second best pick of the draft. We should really just put all our energy into trying to poach a player with cash. No other way we're going to fill our 95% requirement.
 

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Buddy still might go to GWS if AFL don't let Sydney deal happen, and then GWS either trade pick 1, or don't pick Boyd at pick 1, so that would completely change the context of pick 2! Boyd instead of Aish (assuming GWS pick Aish at 1)
 
Armitage and 22 won't cut it. Would require a better quality midfielder in that age bracket and the saints aren't going to trade Steven. Pick 2 won't make it to the saints unless something crazy happens.
But the question is, which club will put up a better mid than that? IMO only a Vic at an interstate club who wants to come home. Eg. Sloane or Selwood. Two problems with that... probably neither will want to leave their clubs, and Melbourne would only get one and not the two hard-bodied inside mids Mahoney has said the Dees are after.

Another option....

#2, #22 ,<-------> #3, Armitage

#3, #41 <-------> Savage, #19, #20

Melbourne lose #2, #41; gain Armitage, Savage, #19, #20
 
Sloane's not going anywhere. There'd be a riot if he got traded. Same goes for Crouch. (and Danger, and Talia).

Bottom line, we won't be trading for pick 2.

Better to trade Dangerfield than lose him via FA next year.
 
Buddy still might go to GWS if AFL don't let Sydney deal happen, and then GWS either trade pick 1, or don't pick Boyd at pick 1, so that would completely change the context of pick 2! Boyd instead of Aish (assuming GWS pick Aish at 1)


GWS don't want buddy anymore, they feel completely led on and have already upped Mumfords deal because of Buddy going to Sydney.
 
But the question is, which club will put up a better mid than that? IMO only a Vic at an interstate club who wants to come home. Eg. Sloane or Selwood. Two problems with that... probably neither will want to leave their clubs, and Melbourne would only get one and not the two hard-bodied inside mids Mahoney has said he is after.
We don't have to trade 2 though, we could get a player of similar ability to Armo with our second rounder almost. We're not going to trade pick 2 to the highest bidder if the bid is rubbish.
 
GWS don't want buddy anymore, they feel completely led on and have already upped Mumfords deal because of Buddy going to Sydney.


BUT if it did, and GWS took Aish at pick 1, would you take Boyd at pick 2?

There is an ok chance Buddy might not go to Sydney, and I doubt Hawks would like to him stay now
 

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BUT if it did, and GWS took Aish at pick 1, would you take Boyd at pick 2?

There is an ok chance Buddy might not go to Sydney, and I doubt Hawks would like to him stay now


Of course we would. Even if we only took him for a couple of years and tried to trade him for a mid. GWS won't pass on him though, it would be irresponsible to pass on that talent.
 
Carlton should go for Mumford so then he can play forward and ruck with Kruezer

Mumford would have to move and take less money. Won't happen.
 
We don't have to trade 2 though, we could get a player of similar ability to Armo with our second rounder almost. We're not going to trade pick 2 to the highest bidder if the bid is rubbish.
I realise that, but my point is that Mahoney has stated his wish for mature hard-bodied mids. That is exactly what Armitage is. Armitage is a decent quality B grade footballer IMO. He has been part of the leadership group but his choices have been questioned when he was upbraided recently for planning an end of year trip with Chips and Dusty. My suggestion IMO is not 'rubbish', but given what your own list manager has stated, might actually go some way to meeting that desire.

Saints need greater pure quality in the midfield as we are losing Montagna, Dal Santo and Hayes in the next few years. We probably do need the grunt that Armo provides too (Saints would not want to lose Armitage for a 2nd round pick, but might be tempted by #2 or an upgrade of our #3). Melbourne have some young quality mids in Toumpas, Trengove, Viney but only have Nathan Jones as a quality mature body.
 

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I realise that, but my point is that Mahoney has stated his wish for mature hard-bodied mids. That is exactly what Armitage is. Armitage is a decent quality B grade footballer IMO. He has been part of the leadership group but his choices have been questioned when he was upbraided recently for planning an end of year trip with Chips and Dusty. My suggestion IMO is not 'rubbish', but given what your own list manager has stated, might actually go some way to meeting that desire.

Saints need greater pure quality in the midfield as we are losing Montagna, Dal Santo and Hayes in the next few years. We probably do need the grunt that Armo provides too (Saints would not want to lose Armitage for a 2nd round pick, but might be tempted by #2 or an upgrade of our #3). Melbourne have some young quality mids in Toumpas, Trengove, Viney but only have Nathan Jones as a quality mature body.
If we just want 2 hard bodied mids, we'll get Cross and Chappie and keep pick 2. Sorry, I didn't mean that your offer was rubbish, just a bit unrealistic.
 
If we just want 2 hard bodied mids, we'll get Cross and Chappie and keep pick 2. Sorry, I didn't mean that your offer was rubbish, just a bit unrealistic.

No, it was rubbish.

Swapping our Sylvia comp pick would be more realistic, even then St.Kilda would be getting the better deal
 
Seems like th epick will be shpped around , don't know if there will be any takers. Possibly Melbourne downgrade to another 1st round pick and gain a player. Not sure who though. Needs to be a quality mid. With Sylvia leaving the cap space opens up even more.
We'll struggle to pay the minimum cap if we don't land someone decent. Might have to front load even more contracts.
 
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