Pick Swap 2019 - How Crow Can You Go?

Where will Adelaide finish?


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Random my arse..you cherry picked them..
I have decided to cherry pick a year too - 2015. Google that and as good as top 10 was, 11-20 in my opinion has turned out just as good.
In regards to this years upcoming draft. I don’t think it is looking to be a bad draft. I think that the first two are just looking to be standouts and then from 3-20 is very even. It could turn out a very solid draft and unless Crows get a top two pick off us then it is likely we win that trade if anyone cares to judge who wins.
I am so far happy with Stocker and if we get a Jack Martin or another player of his caliber then that will be just what Dr. SOS ordered.
 
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I have decided to cherry pick a year too - 2015. Google that and as good as top 10 was, 11-20 in my opinion has turned out just as good.
In regards to this years upcoming draft. I don’t think it is looking to be a bad draft. I think that the first two are just looking to be standouts and then from 2-20 is very even. It could turn out a very solid draft and unless Crows get a top two pick off us then it is likely we win that trade if anyone cares to judge who wins.
I am so far happy with Stocker and if we get a Jack Martin or another player of his caliber then that will be just what Dr. SOS ordered.
Yep..spot on..
Heaps of gun players have been picked after 10 / 20 range ,We can trust SOS to get the job done..
 
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Despite Crows grabbing wins of recent times and now sitting third (unbelievable, I know), I am officially looking forward to the next 2 months of death-riding. If they are the real deal, Crows will emerge still in the top 8 having done well through May to July. But I am expecting the mother of all tumbles and Adelaide are sent down, down, down to 12th place.

Rd 9 - Crows lose to Brisbane @ GABBA (after Charlie Cameron dominates with 5)
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Rd 10 - Crows lose to hungry WC outfit at AO, in a nail-biter
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Rd 11 - Crows beat injury-depleted Melbourne in Darwin
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Rd 12 - Crows outclassed by reinvigorated Giants at AO
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Rd 13 - Crows barely survive crowd ground invasion after losing AGAIN at home to Richmond
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Rd 14 - Saved by the BYE, but scandal hits as team unity implodes and begin all-out fighting at training
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Then Rd 15 arrives......Crows lose to Geelong @ Geelong (Dangerfield celebrates with post-goal "Power Stance" after his 5th goal).
Whole of the Crows team forced to drive back to Adelaide when coach cancels flights home, and they begin wondering how the trade deal with Carlton suddenly looks like a mistake.....
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Looking forward to see what unfolds......
 

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Despite Crows grabbing wins of recent times and now sitting third (unbelievable, I know), I am officially looking forward to the next 2 months of death-riding. If they are the real deal, Crows will emerge still in the top 8 having done well through May to July. But I am expecting the mother of all tumbles and Adelaide are sent down, down, down to 12th place.

Rd 9 - Crows lose to Brisbane @ GABBA (after Charlie Cameron dominates with 5)
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Rd 10 - Crows lose to hungry WC outfit at AO, in a nail-biter
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Rd 11 - Crows beat injury-depleted Melbourne in Darwin
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Rd 12 - Crows outclassed by reinvigorated Giants at AO
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Rd 13 - Crows barely survive crowd ground invasion after losing AGAIN at home to Richmond
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Rd 14 - Saved by the BYE, but scandal hits as team unity implodes and begin all-out fighting at training
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Then Rd 15 arrives......Crows lose to Geelong @ Geelong (Dangerfield celebrates with post-goal "Power Stance" after his 5th goal).
Whole of the Crows team forced to drive back to Adelaide when coach cancels flights home, and they begin wondering how the trade deal with Carlton suddenly looks like a mistake.....
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Looking forward to see what unfolds......
And round 19 - Stocker goes forward and kicks 5 in a rising star nominated performance!
 

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Strangely enough, another bottom finish could see us get a priority pick or a significant draft concession , maybe more “generous” than last year..
Absolute rubbish.

We were an absolute joke last year, statistically one of the worst teams ever. GWS even took the piss out of us with 16 players on the ground for a brief moment.

If we didn’t get one last year there is absolutely no way we’ll get one this year.

Not calling this trade a failure yet. Way too early for that as I’ve said previously. But gee it is going to be an absolutely shocking look if we’ve traded pick 1 for a player and a late first rounder. Stocker looks like he can play. Maybe he turns into a gun. But pick one rarely nets you a poor footballer. With all the data, footage etc available these days it’s probably harder for clubs to make a terrible decision, particularly with the first ******ant pick. If the argument is how many more picks do we need, then think of the trade possibilities with pick 1.

I’m absolutely certain that when SOS made this trade he wasn’t expecting us to be the worst team in the league again and the Crows back up the ladder.

Can we just win some games for ****s sake?
 

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I think you got that very wrong, it's 2 good player v 1 elite/generation player......I know who I'll choose....
It’s the same argument Dees fans make when they defend trading pick 2 for Tyson and Salem.

They could have found similar players without trading pick 2 which ended up being Josh Kelly. Imagine him running around with Gawn tapping it down to him.

I hope for our sake we don’t end up in a similar situation trading away an elite player for two lesser talents. But if we end up trading pick 1 the probability of us having done so is clearly higher.
 

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It’s the same argument Dees fans make when they defend trading pick 2 for Tyson and Salem.

They could have found similar players without trading pick 2 which ended up being Josh Kelly. Imagine him running around with Gawn tapping it down to him.

I hope for our sake we don’t end up in a similar situation trading away an elite player for two lesser talents. But if we end up trading pick 1 the probability of us having done so is clearly higher.
Don't think we're going to be short of star power in the future.

I also expect we'll be the beneficiary of a few more highly touted draftees returning home from GWS in the coming seasons.

Our list is shaping nicely and that's all we can ask for as supporters.
 
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Despite Crows grabbing wins of recent times and now sitting third (unbelievable, I know), I am officially looking forward to the next 2 months of death-riding. If they are the real deal, Crows will emerge still in the top 8 having done well through May to July. But I am expecting the mother of all tumbles and Adelaide are sent down, down, down to 12th place.

Rd 9 - Crows lose to Brisbane @ GABBA (after Charlie Cameron dominates with 5)
View attachment 673260
Rd 10 - Crows lose to hungry WC outfit at AO, in a nail-biter
View attachment 673261
Rd 11 - Crows beat injury-depleted Melbourne in Darwin
View attachment 673267
Rd 12 - Crows outclassed by reinvigorated Giants at AO
View attachment 673274
Rd 13 - Crows barely survive crowd ground invasion after losing AGAIN at home to Richmond
View attachment 673256
Rd 14 - Saved by the BYE, but scandal hits as team unity implodes and begin all-out fighting at training
View attachment 673276
Then Rd 15 arrives......Crows lose to Geelong @ Geelong (Dangerfield celebrates with post-goal "Power Stance" after his 5th goal).
Whole of the Crows team forced to drive back to Adelaide when coach cancels flights home, and they begin wondering how the trade deal with Carlton suddenly looks like a mistake.....
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Looking forward to see what unfolds......
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Don't think we're going to be short of star power in the future.

I also expect we'll be the beneficiary of a few more highly touted draftees returning home from GWS in the coming seasons.

Our list is shaping nicely and that's all we can ask for as supporters.
It’s not necessarily about being short of stars.

And right now as it currently stands to be writing off maybe trading away pick 1 because we won’t need an extra star in the future is ludicrous. There is no guarantee that we even become a very good side. Does it look like the club has put much more time and effort into getting in the right sort of players to rebuild the club? Yes.

Just look at GWS and all the talent they’ve had. Despite being loaded with talent since 2016 they haven’t won anything. That just shows how hard it is to win flags. In this game you need as much as possible to go right for you.

There are no guarantees in footy.

As I said I just hope we can win some games over the rest of the season and the Crows drop a bit so we’re not even discussing pick 1 being lost.
 

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It’s not necessarily about being short of stars.

And right now as it currently stands to be writing off maybe trading away pick 1 because we won’t need an extra star in the future is ludicrous. There is no guarantee that we even become a very good side. Does it look like the club has put much more time and effort into getting in the right sort of players to rebuild the club? Yes.

Just look at GWS and all the talent they’ve had. Despite being loaded with talent since 2016 they haven’t won anything. That just shows how hard it is to win flags. In this game you need as much as possible to go right for you.

There are no guarantees in footy.

As I said I just hope we can win some games over the rest of the season and the Crows drop a bit so we’re not even discussing pick 1 being lost.
I think we've got a greater chance of success than GWS did during that period.

We've got a lot more tougher, harder players that are hungry for the contest and bring pressure.

GWS were reliant on skillful outside players playing perfect football during their finals campaigns. As a general rule of thumb, skill level will generally drop off in finals but pressure remains. This was always going to be the challenge for them.

Players like Dow, Setterfield, Stocker, Cripps etc. are all hungry for the contest. I think our side is shaping nicely and will hold up in finals football.

I've been pretty bearish about our prospects in this trade and potentially trading away pick 1 or 2 for a while now, but I can now see us gaining ground on other teams in the back half of the season. I think we can move up the ladder and avoid this being a talking point.

If Kreuzer remains fit for the remainder of the season, we'll push ahead of teams like the Suns, Swans and Saints. I think we've seen in the limited sample size this season that Kreuzer is worth his weight in gold to us.

Still a long way to go. I don't think Adelaide's pick will be as low as what we'd like, but in saying that, their pick might push back a bit too.
 

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It’s not necessarily about being short of stars.

And right now as it currently stands to be writing off maybe trading away pick 1 because we won’t need an extra star in the future is ludicrous. There is no guarantee that we even become a very good side. Does it look like the club has put much more time and effort into getting in the right sort of players to rebuild the club? Yes.

Just look at GWS and all the talent they’ve had. Despite being loaded with talent since 2016 they haven’t won anything. That just shows how hard it is to win flags. In this game you need as much as possible to go right for you.

There are no guarantees in footy.

As I said I just hope we can win some games over the rest of the season and the Crows drop a bit so we’re not even discussing pick 1 being lost.
Agree with pretty much all you have said, but GWS go alright now and they did have something missing and to a degree still do, history and pride in the jumper, being a sort of vacant concept for them being an expansion team . Although living in Canberra can see first hand that it is slowly growing. The Blue boys seem pretty focused and determined as a group and as yet we are not losing players to other clubs like GWS each year.
 

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I think we've got a greater chance of success than GWS did during that period.

We've got a lot more tougher, harder players that are hungry for the contest and bring pressure.

GWS were reliant on skillful outside players playing perfect football during their finals campaigns. As a general rule of thumb, skill level will generally drop off in finals but pressure remains. This was always going to be the challenge for them.

Players like Dow, Setterfield, Stocker, Cripps etc. are all hungry for the contest. I think our side is shaping nicely and will hold up in finals football.

I've been pretty bearish about our prospects in this trade and potentially trading away pick 1 or 2 for a while now, but I can now see us gaining ground on other teams in the back half of the season. I think we can move up the ladder and avoid this being a talking point.

If Kreuzer remains fit for the remainder of the season, we'll push ahead of teams like the Suns, Swans and Saints. I think we've seen in the limited sample size this season that Kreuzer is worth his weight in gold to us.

Still a long way to go. I don't think Adelaide's pick will be as low as what we'd like, but in saying that, their pick might push back a bit too.
I don’t know how you can say players like Dow, Setterfield and Stocker are anymore hungry for the contest than the majority of there players. As a team they haven’t worked but as individuals they are fine.
For me when compared to other successful sides the only thing they have lacked is good small forwards (even mids) who bring manic pressure. The exact same thing we do.
They also have the exact same problem as us and don’t truly know if they have a really good coach. For us we haven’t had the cattle to work it out and for them it’s the opposite, maybe they are just getting the job done on talent alone.
 

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I think we've got a greater chance of success than GWS did during that period.

We've got a lot more tougher, harder players that are hungry for the contest and bring pressure.

GWS were reliant on skillful outside players playing perfect football during their finals campaigns. As a general rule of thumb, skill level will generally drop off in finals but pressure remains. This was always going to be the challenge for them.

Players like Dow, Setterfield, Stocker, Cripps etc. are all hungry for the contest. I think our side is shaping nicely and will hold up in finals football.
You have your Blues coloured glasses on here mate.

Dow, Setterfield, Stocker, Cripps v Kelly, Taranto, Coniglio, Whitfield, Greene, Hooper...

There are plenty of tough inside players in that GWS list.
 

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As Judd said last night on FC. We done the trade not expecting to be this low and them being so high. Let’s just hope we can get out of the bottom two so Adelaide don’t get their hands on the one of the two guns
 

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Despite Crows grabbing wins of recent times and now sitting third (unbelievable, I know), I am officially looking forward to the next 2 months of death-riding. If they are the real deal, Crows will emerge still in the top 8 having done well through May to July. But I am expecting the mother of all tumbles and Adelaide are sent down, down, down to 12th place.

Rd 9 - Crows lose to Brisbane @ GABBA (after Charlie Cameron dominates with 5)
View attachment 673260
Rd 10 - Crows lose to hungry WC outfit at AO, in a nail-biter
View attachment 673261
Rd 11 - Crows beat injury-depleted Melbourne in Darwin
View attachment 673267
Rd 12 - Crows outclassed by reinvigorated Giants at AO
View attachment 673274
Rd 13 - Crows barely survive crowd ground invasion after losing AGAIN at home to Richmond
View attachment 673256
Rd 14 - Saved by the BYE, but scandal hits as team unity implodes and begin all-out fighting at training
View attachment 673276
Then Rd 15 arrives......Crows lose to Geelong @ Geelong (Dangerfield celebrates with post-goal "Power Stance" after his 5th goal).
Whole of the Crows team forced to drive back to Adelaide when coach cancels flights home, and they begin wondering how the trade deal with Carlton suddenly looks like a mistake.....
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Looking forward to see what unfolds......
Should be a royal commision into why the crows get an armchair ride with the fixture every year.

Every decent team, they get the advantage of playing at home.
 
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