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Power land extra first-round draft pick after trade with Lions
PORT Adelaide will enter this month's NAB AFL Draft with a bumper hand after landing a third first-round selection in a pick swap with Brisbane on Monday.
The Power have moved picks 29, 71 and a future-first round selection to the Lions and received picks 16, 52, 55 and 72.

It leaves the Power with picks 12, 16 and 18 after moving out selection 29 to avoid having it absorbed in an expected bid for father-son prospect Jackson Mead, who is set to fall in the mid-to-late second round.

After nine changes to the senior list, the recruitment of Wylie Buzza and upgrade of rookies Jarrod Lienert and Peter Ladhams, the Power now have a minimum of four senior list spots to be filled at the draft. As it stands, they hold picks 12, 16, 18, 52, 55, 66, 67 and 68.

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Power land extra first-round draft pick after trade with Lions

Port Adelaide will enter this month's NAB AFL Draft with a bumper hand after landing a third first-round selection in a pick swap with Brisbane on Monday
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Hi guys, I come in peace.

I’m not going to claim it’s a win win trade, or one side paid overs, etc.

But I’m struggling to understand a lot of the Angst here.

Pick 29 was always going to be pushed back between 1 and 3 picks on the first draft night.

And it was almost a given that you would have to use it to match a bid on Mead.

How many current list spots do you have available to take the corresponding number of picks to the draft? 5 spots?

You’re 3 picks in the 60’s have almost no trade value. And you were only likely taking two to the draft.

It’s projected that there will be between 66 and 72 picks in this years draft.

So you’re last two picks were towards the end of the draft.


With the trade, you have moved your 2020 first round pick up a year. And instead of picking two kids at the back end of the draft, you’re getting Mead with those two picks, and one kid at the end of the draft.


If you finish between 9th and 11th next year, you’re pick was probably being pushed back two or three picks. Make the top 8, and it gets pushed back another one or two picks.
 
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briztoon said:
Hi guys, I come in peace.

I’m not going to claim it’s a win win trade, or one side payed overs, etc.

But I’m struggling to understand a lot of the Angst here.

Pick 29 was always going to be pushed back between 1 and 3 picks on the first draft night.

And it was almost a given that you would have to use it to match a bid on Mead.

How many current list spots do you have available to take the corresponding number of picks to the draft? 5 spots?

You’re 3 picks in the 60’s have almost no trade value. And you were only likely taking two to the draft.

It’s projected that there will be between 66 and 72 picks in this years draft.

So you’re last two picks were towards the end of the draft.


With the trade, you have moved your 2020 first round pick up a year. And instead of picking two kids at the back end of the draft, you’re getting Mead with those two picks, and one kid at the end of the draft.


If you finish between 9th and 11th next year, you’re pick was probably being pushed back two or three picks. Make the top 8, and it gets pushed back another one or two picks.
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1. We could do other things with 29 than use it on Mead. The AFL even confirmed that a bid could come in and even then we could have traded it out to match with cheaper points. Deciding ’Mead=29’ as the only possible, and making all comparisons on that basis, is not using the truth as a basis.

2. What if we finish well out of the eight, which seems likely given our list balance.
 
Effectively we swap next years 1st (probably 8-12) and 29 for 16 this year and some later picks to use on Mead (who we would have possibly taken at 29 if we didn't do the deal at all).

If we didn't want to use 29 for Mead we could have traded it out for more 2020 capital for father son picks next year.

I'm not all that bothered by the trade, I get the idea of an extra 1st year pick this year or combining 2 of our firsts for a top 10 pick.

I am getting a bit over this club throwing in extra's with every trade that really don't seem necessary, i.e. the 10-12 downgrade for Dougal and giving away Pittard and a pick in the Polec trade when pick 11 should have been enough on it's own.
 
Butters Made Me Do It said:
Yeah so trade it for something else rather than lose it, thats why its bullshit.

People keep using ‘eaten up’ logic rather than acknowledge we can trade it (even up to the point of a bid coming in!) and use later points instead
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We could also risk not trading it and hope no bid comes in before that pick rather than getting involved in a trade where we will inevitably be ripped off because the other party is fully aware of our motivation for partaking in the trade and looking to take advantage of that.

Also, even if we did have to use pick 29 to match a Mead bid, it's disingenuous to say that we "lose it" when actually the rules are allowing us to use it to take a player at a pick(s) later than what the draft placed him at. Just because we're not fully taking advantage of the draft points farce, doesn't mean we're "losing" our pick - the pick is still generating its worth.
 
Forzaport said:
Not much point in raging until we see the end result. This is still a work in progress. Our drafting has been mostly decent lately so I’m willing to have a little faith.

I have every confidence that we’ll trade back into the first round for 2020 by jettisoning another “lazy” player.
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the faith word is back👏
 

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TeeKray said:
We could also risk not trading it and hope no bid comes in before that pick rather than getting involved in a trade where we will inevitably be ripped off because the other party is fully aware of our motivation for partaking in the trade and looking to take advantage of that.
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Sure, we’ve been burned by time pressure before (Nick Stevens). Or we couldve looked into other non-draft day trades.

Also, even if we did have to use pick 29 to match a Mead bid, it's disingenuous to say that we "lose it" when actually the rules are allowing us to use it to take a player at a pick(s) later than what the draft placed him at. Just because we're not fully taking advantage of the draft points farce, doesn't mean we're "losing" our pick - the pick is still generating its worth.
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Yep.
 
manureid said:
It does feel like we always offer a bit more than was really needed.
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We get shit done though.

Might not always be good shit or bad shit but shit gets done.

Plenty of clubs get **** all shit done good bad or otherwise.
 
briztoon said:
Hi guys, I come in peace.

I’m not going to claim it’s a win win trade, or one side payed overs, etc.

But I’m struggling to understand a lot of the Angst here.

Pick 29 was always going to be pushed back between 1 and 3 picks on the first draft night.

And it was almost a given that you would have to use it to match a bid on Mead.

How many current list spots do you have available to take the corresponding number of picks to the draft? 5 spots?

You’re 3 picks in the 60’s have almost no trade value. And you were only likely taking two to the draft.

It’s projected that there will be between 66 and 72 picks in this years draft.

So you’re last two picks were towards the end of the draft.


With the trade, you have moved your 2020 first round pick up a year. And instead of picking two kids at the back end of the draft, you’re getting Mead with those two picks, and one kid at the end of the draft.


If you finish between 9th and 11th next year, you’re pick was probably being pushed back two or three picks. Make the top 8, and it gets pushed back another one or two picks.
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I don't see us making the top 11. I think if we can manage to finish 10th, or even 12th+ then this is fine. I worry we finish 17th and miss out on an elite talent.
 

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I can’t imagine we are getting three first round picks if we are trading up to pick 6/7/8.


Eddie Dingle said:
We get shit done though.

Might not always be good shit or bad shit but shit gets done.

Plenty of clubs get fu** all shit done good bad or otherwise.
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This is true. We get trades done and don’t seem to care much about winning or losing, just getting what we want.

Sometimes what we want is fantastic, but I think people would feel a lot better if SPP, Drew and Atley were faring better.
 
Snake_Baker said:
What are you buggers up to?
Stephens, Gould, Day?
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Stephens is one player Port might be looking at.

Last year Port did pick swaps and got Rozee Butters & Duursma, and some complained about those swaps. But not now lol

This year Port will get the players they wont, plus Jackson Mead.

Interesting note ... Port, over two years, could pick up 7 good players for the Club.

Can't bloody complain about that, could we. But some might LOL
 
Am I the only one remotely optimistic about the prospect of 5 or 6 first round picks in 2 seasons, backing up an excellent haul this season?
 
Enviable Tradition said:
Adelaide will definitely bid on Mead at 28 now.

They will know we will match as we will be using late picks and they will want to chew up as much of our draft capital as possible.

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Doesnt really matter. Weve made sure we get 3 + Mead now.
 

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