Pick Swap Completed

[drcollossimo]

Pick 10 next season really is looking at things on the sunny side ... it will be sub 10 almost guaranteed

 

[Rendaw]

Our 2020 first could end up being used for points or demanded in trade for Lukosius. Instead we bring it forward to use this year leaving next year a focus on academy/FS players in a compromised draft.

The picks themselves are irrelevant it's the players we end up drafting that matter.

Everyone seems to be forgetting the meltdown for the Rozee trade but that's already a success.

 

[Crow till I die]

Pick 13 + 29 for pick 16 + Mead + Schofield + Jones for shit picks is a win any way you look at it.

If the status quo remains im happy with it. If we go and trade 12 and 16 for 9 and 50 or something silly then ill be less happy

sorry to intrude on your board but I recall you had some info on Lukosius a while back. For the SA teams could it be read that with port trading out of next years 1st round, maybe they think that there is no chance Lukosius may be tempted back to Adelaide in the near term and are happy to run with just their F/S and NGA picks in the main?

 

[NEGAN]

This isn't even quantified yet no point in melting.

 

[Butters Made Me Do It]

the view that trading 29 makes this deal worse without highlighting that it would get chewed up if we didn't do something with it (which some seem to be suggesting) is a greater crime IMO.

I'm not sure that's what I claimed TBH.

I mean it literally is because you straight up presume that your ‘criminal’ doesnt believe we should trade pick 29 or else why would it be eaten up by Mead?

 

[Macca19]

What has Schofield and Jones got to do with the equation of this trade?

We gave up potentially pick 10 in 2020 which could turn into pick 13 as you suggested for Brisbane to use.

We still have to find say pick 10 and 20 to draft Schofield + Jones if their form hold up in 2020, and we didn't get anything from Brisbane to help do that.

I'm happy to see this as giving up Pick 13+29 to get pick 16+Mead, but that is the full extent of the equation for this trade.

Because moving out of a pick 8-15 ensures that it doesn't get eaten up with one of those bids, so it remains relevant.

 

[Butters Made Me Do It]

lol Macca19 more ‘eaten up’ excuses that ignore the vast trading options we can pursue when trading picks

 

[snozulu]

We better finish at least top 8 next year otherwise Brisbane pulled off a heist!

and trigger Hinkley's extra year

 

[Macca19]

lol Macca19 more ‘eaten up’ excuses that ignore the vast trading options we can pursue when trading picks

You are making the assumption that these other options werent explored

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Lets say we use 12,16,18 to pick 3 players and then someone bids on Mead.

If that big come in at pick 19, we need 948 pts - 197 pts flat discount after pick 18 = 751 pts. All our other picks come to 680 pts so we carry forward a deficit of 71 pts into 2020. That is a pretty good deal.

If its after pick 19 its an even better deal for us.

And if i have read the rules correctly from the article linked below, the 71 pts came off our 2020 2nd round, and anyway we have already traded out our 1st round.

Father-son picks could put Pies into draft points deficit

Chasing father-son prospects now could see Pies in debt at 2017 draft

www.afl.com.au

 

[Brian McGee]

lol Macca19 more ‘eaten up’ excuses that ignore the vast trading options we can pursue when trading picks

Do you think they wouldn’t have explored these vast trading options prior to pulling the trigger?

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Because moving out of a pick 8-15 ensures that it doesn't get eaten up with one of those bids, so it remains relevant.

You still gotta find the points whether you have pick 8-15 or its traded out. So to me its irrelevant to what happens in 2020 and Schofield and Jones aren't part of this swap equation.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

Ive heard one recruiter call next year ‘potentially the worst ever’ plus the fact there are a lot of nga picks. What we’ve done is ensure, at the moment, that we get Schofield and Jones for not a whole lot, which is good.

If we land on pick 10, similar to this year, that probably gets pushed out to 13 or 14 at the moment anyway.

Its really a decent deal

I can see us trading away our first round pick if there's a chance either of those two are bid on prior to it.

The big issue I could see is if we don't have the enough points next year to cover them, and we end up with a significant point deficit going into 2021...

 

[Butters Made Me Do It]

You are making the assumption that these other options werent explored

Do you think they wouldn’t have explored these vast trading options prior to pulling the trigger?

This admin? 100%

They chased the deal they wanted.

 

[Portmagpies36]

Who can possibly doubt our recruiting credentials in the last 5 years !

 

[Sleezy]

Because moving out of a pick 8-15 ensures that it doesn't get eaten up with one of those bids, so it remains relevant.

The AFL lystics guys did a podcast on the 2020 draft, out to pick 25 I think. They think the level of compromise of the next draft is overstated.

They predicted the first round extends out to pick 23, including GC rescue picks, one more than last years draft. That year the first round finished with pick 22.

Neither Schofield nor Jones were in the 25.

 

[Interstater]

I think I understand the Grundy and Woodcock actions now.

 

[Malibu#27]

I mean it literally is because you straight up presume that your ‘criminal’ doesnt believe we should trade pick 29 or else why would it be eaten up by Mead?

It literally doesn't, it refers to overselling the value that pick 29 held to us... it makes no reference to people saying don't trade it.

 

[Arsene Wenger]

if we traded in pick 1 for pick 2, some here would still find a way not to like it.

 

[Butters Made Me Do It]

It literally doesn't, it refers to overselling the value that pick 29 held to us... it makes no reference to people saying don't trade it.

29 has value 100% independent of Mead UNLESS you are making the broad assumption that everyone speaking against this trade also wants us to keep 29

 

[Butters Made Me Do It]

if we traded in pick 1 for pick 2, some here would still find a way not to like it.

And others would justify us doing the opposite

 

[Duckimus Prime]

Except doing that acts as implies we had zero other moves for 29

eg. 18 and 29 for 16 and something. Trade 29 into next year. Trade 29 and our future 2nd round into a first.

So many option that didnt put our 2020 first round pick on the line.

Trade 29 out of this draft so it doesn't get eaten up in a Mead bid match, into getting something a bit earlier in next years draft so it can get eaten up in a Schofield bid. Now thats something that feels very PORTS.

 

[Lagooner]

So 6 first round picks in 2 years and all it took was finishing 10th twice, trading away our 2020 1st round pick and trading Wingard, Polec and Howard.

Plus Pittard and a shit-tonne of 2nd and 3rd rounders last year and Ryder this year.

 

[Butters Made Me Do It]

More ‘eaten up’ bullsht huh, keep it coming

Trade 29 out of this draft so it doesn't get eaten up in a Mead bid match, into getting something a bit earlier in next years draft so it can get eaten up in a Schofield bid. Now thats something that feels very PORTS.

 

[manureid]

If we traded in pick 1 and 2 then I would wonder how we are going to **** up those players development.