Analysis Pick Watch - 2018

[HBF]

Embrace the death-ride mate.

Go Tiges.

I can't barrack for Richmond..................can I.

 

[CJMB]

I can't barrack for Richmond..................can I.

I'm not barracking for the Tiges, I'm barracking against the crows...

I guess a draw would be alright too...

 

[bluemahogany]

Can you lift Richmond? ffs

 

[Stamos]

I can't barrack for Richmond..................can I.

I hate Richmond even more now for losing

 

[HBF]

Guess we're death riding the Bulldogs this weekend now.

 

[F_therest]

Hope this post isn't too 'list managementy'.

Just wanted to point out that the current standings of the trade with WB looks like this:

OUT: Pick 16, Pick 40
IN: Pick 28 (Kennedy), Pick 30 (TDK), 2019 Pick 19

Dogs won't finish last but given their dispirited effort against GWS + injuries they probably finish 10th at best.

 

[Jimmae]

Hope this post isn't too 'list managementy'.

Just wanted to point out that the current standings of the trade with WB looks like this:

OUT: Pick 16, Pick 40
IN: Pick 28 (Kennedy), Pick 30 (TDK), 2019 Pick 19

Dogs won't finish last but given their dispirited effort against GWS + injuries they probably finish 10th at best.

The Dogs trade is a win in virtually every scenario.

 

[The Grover]

Dogs are a bottom 5 certainty.

Pick 19-23

 

[gandaal]

Go Eagles

 

[HBF]

Dogs are a bottom 5 certainty.

Pick 19-23

Don't reckon we need to death ride them this year. They're puss.

 

[gandaal]

Don't reckon we need to death ride them this year. They're puss.

Fair fall from grace

 

[Mr_Plow]

How do we fleece another club into giving us a 2nd top 10 pick this year?

 

[gandaal]

How do we fleece another club into giving us a 2nd top 10 pick this year?

Unless we give up Doc or Cripps we've got nothing if value left to sell.

I think a priority pick is the only way it could happen, and there's almost no chance of that happening.

 

[Jeremias]

Dogs looked absolutely terrible again today, which is great for us.

Had them finishing 9th, things can change but right now they certainly don't look capable of finishing anywhere near that high.

Could end up being a seriously valuable pick, they've got a big few weeks ahead.

 

[Jeremias]

Unless we give up Doc or Cripps we've got nothing if value left to sell.

3 x 2nd round picks will hold some value, as does our 2019 first round pick.

Agree though that we've probably run out of players we'd be willing to give up for any worthwhile return.

 

[GapInIkonPark]

3 x 2nd round picks will hold some value, as does our 2019 first round pick.

Agree though that we've probably run out of players we'd be willing to give up for any worthwhile return.

We have 2x2nd round picks.

Might have to swap with a 2019 Pick.

 

[rog1995]

Not a fan of trading a future first especially in our position. Imagine Cripps does a knee and we finish bottom.

 

[Weiterbot23]

How many first rd free agents or father sons could there be?

If gaff and lynch move clubs dogs pick gets pushed back a couple of spots.

 

[GapInIkonPark]

Not a fan of trading a future first especially in our position. Imagine Cripps does a knee and we finish bottom.

Sure.

Scenario for you:

- Trade our 2019 first for a (second) 2018 first.

- We get Shiel as a FA in 2019.

Would you do this?

Or 2019 second together one of our 2018 seconds for a 2018 first?

 

[rog1995]

Sure.

Scenario for you:

- Trade our 2019 first for a (second) 2018 first.

- We get Shiel as a FA in 2019.

Would you do this?

Or 2019 second together one of our 2018 seconds for a 2018 first?

Of course I would trade our first if we get Shiel. Problem is there's no guarantee.

 

[GinTonic]

The bulldogs pick could be a godsend with them playing so poorly atm, coupled with us likely to finish bottom 4 again this year, we will have a scary amount of young talent on the list.

 

[SurreyBlue]

I’m embarrassed and frustrated tha Carlton supporters have nothing better to discuss than ‘how to ge another top 10 pick’ or ‘who we can draft with our top 4 pick’ at round 2. Culture.

 

[rog1995]

I’m embarrassed and frustrated tha Carlton supporters have nothing better to discuss than ‘how to ge another top 10 pick’ or ‘who we can draft with our top 4 pick’ at round 2. Culture.

Exactly what we've become. We've lost our identity.

 

[GinTonic]

I’m embarrassed and frustrated tha Carlton supporters have nothing better to discuss than ‘how to ge another top 10 pick’ or ‘who we can draft with our top 4 pick’ at round 2. Culture.

Blame the higher ups for running our club into the ground the last 15 years.

 

[SurreyBlue]

Blame the higher ups for running our club into the ground the last 15 years.

I don’t want to get into this type of discussion but it’s the easy option to blame previous management.

To elaborate a little more, how many players have we traded out over the past 3 to 5 years who are playing good AFL footy at other clubs currently? The easy decision was to trade out and rebuild with kids, then it gives us excuses about ‘youth / rebuild’. It’s like selling your capital to survive in retirement, instead of building capital to enable you to live during your retirement.

The hard work and toughest approach is always the path clubs like StKilda and now us ignore, whereas others like Sydney, Adelaide, Geelong, etc. work to build the culture and expectation within the playing group and developing their standards.

Hence why we get the embarrasing performances. It’s a club culture built on excuses.