Pies set sights on Dal Santo

[Jabso]

Dal Santo would probably not leave St.Kilda but we have to make our intentions clear to the player before he re-signs.
Collingwood have always been perceived at chasing a big name and having a lot of cash to splash but the reality is that the player agents use Collingwood as a tool to get more $$$ for there players come contract negotiation time.
I think it is pretty obvious that the agents give Collingwood a word that a players out of contract. Collingwood express some interest and tell the club their players are currently at that Collingwood are interested and could pay big money for them. The club then rings Collingwood asking if it is true that they are interested and the club with the player involved starts s***ting themselves a bit.
With alot of devious agents (Ron Joseph) they also give clubs like Collingwood and the media the idea that they are really close to getting the player.

Now I'm not sure if I got the facts completely right as I don't follow soccer too closely but Michael Owen and his manager used the line that Owen would get more at Real Madrid quite easily than what he gets at Liverpool to get more cash. Eventually Liverpool gave in and Owen didn't really want to leave Liverpool, but they decided he was almost at the peak of his career so they might as well sell him for as much $ as they can. In other words they called his bluff.

 

[jimmy_clement#8]

Now I'm not sure if I got the facts completely right as I don't follow soccer too closely but Michael Owen and his manager used the line that Owen would get more at Real Madrid quite easily than what he gets at Liverpool to get more cash. Eventually Liverpool gave in and Owen didn't really want to leave Liverpool, but they decided he was almost at the peak of his career so they might as well sell him for as much $ as they can. In other words they called his bluff.

yeah i'm pretty sure he did that and he wasnt the only player to fall for that real madrid ploy, quite a few have used the "i could get more money in madrid" and got higher wages until it was too much.

with the whole dal santo and brown thing though, surely, by having this all public knowledge, it is more than just trying to sign these two, but making a statement to everyone before they re-sign with their current club that the option is there to play for big $$$ at collingwood. therefore, they, the negotiating players, know about the collingwood option, some may dismiss it, some may snap at it, but most i feel will use it to say look, i have this from collingwood, what can you do for me instead, and surely, that improves our chances of nailing one of these blokes. usually, we come into the picture too late, this time, by getting out the fact we can offer real real big numbers for expiring contracted players early, real early in the piece, we have a bigger influence on negotiation which, in turn, leads to a better chance of landing a dal santo or others. good footy dept. decision

 

[bobneil130]

I think Nick Dal Santo is a great player and would love to have him at Collingwood, around $400k per would be fair when Woey is on that at the moment and I would rather have Dal Santo any day. Woey will be gone at the end of the year and if he does stick around it will be for a substantial less amount. Also you would think Willams and Obree's contract would be around $300-400k combined and both of them as well as Loakn are gone as well. Gives us a fair amount of room under the cap. Luke Ball and Riewolt (spelling) have signed on again with St Kilda both for a rather large increase from what i hear, they also have the G-Train and Hamill on large contracts, so the im not sure they will have the cap room to hold onto all the young fellas. Dal Santo would be on around $90-120k at the moment so when he hears the amount of $350-400k per for a 3-4 year term it does set the young man up for life. Will be intresting to see what will happens but a top notch future all australian, young and smart mid field player would be worth chasing and around $400k per. IMO.

Fevola is another a few clubs have been chasing and im sure Collingwoods name will be throw in there at some stage. Ive heard a rumor that the Crows are very keen on him. The blues have the trouble of Kouta and Campos massive contracts to worry about and big red would be on a decent amount as well so not sure if the Blues can offer much more than around $250k.

Ling, Bartel and Corey are out of contract at Geelong as well. Jeff White and David Nietz also out at the Demons. If the Demons sign those 2 to big deals they will find it hard to sign the likes of Brad Green, Bruce, McLean and Rivers when there contracts ends also.

 

[Sailor]

Pardon me but haven't the Pies been critical of Brisbane for buying their team - and anything else really. Nothing like a pang of burning envy.
So don't mind the odd claim of hypocrite every now and then.
Get off your proverbials and develop some players.
The pies always believe their own publicity but consistently overlook the fact that their drafting has been unbelievably poor, recruiting too cheap to get quality players.

 

[bobneil130]

they have not been critical at all of Brisbanes recruiting but have been critical of the salary cap bonus. So before you go mouthing off you might want to learn a bit about the game and its goings on.

You talk about how poor Collingwoods recruiting is and development of players remind us all of how many Finals you have played in since Fremantle was established and how many finals won.

Talk about recruiting and developing......... let me remind you of a few the Fremantle footy club thought were no good and let go.
Spider Burton, Jeff White, Jess Sinclair, James Clement, Andrew Mcleod

 

[jimmy_clement#8]

one name that i feel i will come up a lot in the next 5 or so months is bartel, as we tried to get him last year in order to give geelong that 2nd first round pick. the interest is already there. but bartel, being a geelong boy through and through would be tough to prize away, especially with the cats going places. but you never know, i see him as an easier target than dal santo at the minute

 

[Lonie_from_50]

one name that i feel i will come up a lot in the next 5 or so months is bartel, as we tried to get him last year in order to give geelong that 2nd first round pick. the interest is already there. but bartel, being a geelong boy through and through would be tough to prize away, especially with the cats going places. but you never know, i see him as an easier target than dal santo at the minute

Bartel would be great at Collingwood, but as you say - He is a Geelong Boy, and they are a loyal club. We should go for him, no reason why not.