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cannot said:
heck, thatd be a bridge too far


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The chickenlovers photo and hashtag paints Alefantis as a very twisted guy. I am not sure how the hell he would explain that.
 

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Watchyourwaite said:
This thread is just full of awesome information about international politics.

In this sub forum we have a thread on what's happening with the upcoming French election and possible Frexit.
A thread about Indonesian political powers. An incredible thread about what's happening in the Phillipines. The American election thread. The feedback from Brexit.


And then a thread about a covert pedofile operation held in a non existent basement under a pizza shop.

Consisting of copy pasting of pictures from the conspiracy board.
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If political and other prominent figures of society are implicated in the scandal, what other board should it be discussed on? If you don't want to talk about pizzagate, don't enter the thread. Simple.
 
HenrikLundqvist said:
If political and other prominent figures of society are implicated in the scandal, what other board should it be discussed on? If you don't want to talk about pizzagate, don't enter the thread. Simple.
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If I wanted to watch stupid conspiracy videos id go to the conspiracy forum. Simple.
 
BORK said:
Pizza gate seems to involve copious amounts of confirmation bias. The Podesta emails do raise some legitimate questions.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/55433

They appear to be talking in code.

The New York Times supposed debunking of this is as follows:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/12/10/business/media/pizzagate.html?_r=0

And their supposed and only debunking of this.


Heck I am not going to claim there are coded messages specifically about paedophilia but there does appear to be many coded messages and questions deserve to be asked about that.
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Do all of you sad campaigners actually spend your time trying to figure this out?
 
igon value said:
Do all of you sad campaigners actually spend your time trying to figure this out?
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Yes that is the exact deflection I would expect to a post that raises legitimate questions and articulates why.

I am on record as not supporting the "child trafficking/paedophilia network out of the basement of a pizza shop" theory on the available information. There is however information that raises questions about the character of Podesta and Alifantis. You can deny and deflect all you want. Maybe re-articulate how every part has been thoroughly debunked.. Then make a post like this again when something shows up that alters that perception.
 
BORK said:
Yes that is the exact deflection I would expect to a post that raises legitimate questions and articulates why.

I am on record as not supporting the "child trafficking/paedophilia network out of the basement of a pizza shop" theory on the available information. There is however information that raises questions about the character of Podesta and Alifantis. You can deny and deflect all you want. Maybe re-articulate how every part has been thoroughly debunked.. Then make a post like this again when something shows up that alters that perception.
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Probably the safest approach, given the shop doesn't have a basement.:rolleyes:
 
BORK said:
Yes that is the exact deflection I would expect to a post that raises legitimate questions and articulates why.

I am on record as not supporting the "child trafficking/paedophilia network out of the basement of a pizza shop" theory on the available information. There is however information that raises questions about the character of Podesta and Alifantis. You can deny and deflect all you want. Maybe re-articulate how every part has been thoroughly debunked.. Then make a post like this again when something shows up that alters that perception.
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What are you going to do if you and your hotshot team of internet sleuths crack the case?
 

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igon value said:
What are you going to do if you and your hotshot team of internet sleuths crack the case?
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You are trying to position me in a particular group to discredit me.

People are two keen to place individuals in two baskets. One extreme involves belief of a paedophile ring operating out of a pizza shop. Another extreme involves fingers in ears "nothing to see here". An objective view of the information at hand does paint the business owner as a twisted person.

People here would have no problems being up in arms about bizarre posts on an Australian business instagram involving nazi symbols especially if the business owner was an influential person and close friends with politicians. Yet you guys have absolutely no problem with this?
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Put the extreme theories aside for a second and view this objectively rather than dismissively and mockingly. Do you really think a guy rated as one of the most influential people in DC has absolutely no explaining to do about posts like this on his business instagram?

I also note Watchyourwaite has avoided answering a similar question regarding this instagram post despite being a loudmouth elsewhere.

In fact I am calling out Mofra rfctiger74 sivart and SBYM as well.

Do all of you want to go on record as seeing nothing wrong with this instagram post?
 
Ps. You're off your ****ing head.

What's more believable...that a restaurant in DC is the cover for a secret pedophile ring with connections to the DNC, or that this is a pic of a father with his daughter that conspiracy loons have latched on to and twisted to suit their sick ****ing tendencies?

Actually, don't bother answering...you're either a troll or a moron...

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...and either way, sonny, I don't give a shit.
 
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SBYM said:
And how the **** would I know what he knows #chickenlover to mean...

Maybe they like the chicken wings?
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He should probably explain it if he wants the smoke around him to ease. The context of that hashtag being on an instagram page with several strange child images. It is a strange hashtag to have on that photo and you know it.
 
SBYM said:
Ps. 1You're off your ******* head.

2What's more believable...that a restaurant in DC is the cover for a secret pedophile ring with connections to the DNC, or that 3 this is a pic of a father with his daughter that conspiracy loons have latched on and twisted to suit their sick ******* tendencies?

4Actually, don't bother answering...you're either a troll or a moron...

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...and either way, sonny, I don't give a shit.
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1. Insult because of your lack of argument.
2. An assertion I have never supported.
3. It is the hashtag and you know it. Mentioning the picture without the hashtag is a mere deflection.
4. Resorting to insults again.
 
BORK said:
You are trying to position me in a particular group to discredit me.

People are two keen to place individuals in two baskets. One extreme involves belief of a paedophile ring operating out of a pizza shop. Another extreme involves fingers in ears "nothing to see here". An objective view of the information at hand does paint the business owner as a twisted person.

People here would have no problems being up in arms about bizarre posts on an Australian business instagram involving nazi symbols especially if the business owner was an influential person and close friends with politicians. Yet you guys have absolutely no problem with this?
Chickenlovers.png

Put the extreme theories aside for a second and view this objectively rather than dismissively and mockingly. Do you really think a guy rated as one of the most influential people in DC has absolutely no explaining to do about posts like this on his business instagram?

I also note Watchyourwaite has avoided answering a similar question regarding this instagram post despite being a loudmouth elsewhere.

In fact I am calling out Mofra rfctiger74 sivart and SBYM as well.

Do all of you want to go on record as seeing nothing wrong with this instagram post?
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I know I wasn't invited to the party, but please just assume that I gave the secret sign. :D

If I saw that photo on someone's instagram page, and I didn't know anything about pizzagate, I would think
- it's a picture of a man proudly and lovingly holding his young daughter
- he is a friend, relative, employee or associate of the poster
- the hashtag #chickenlovers refers to the twitter a/c of that name
- that twitter a/c has some significance for the poster and/or the father in the photograph.

If I was still interested, I would look up that twitter a/c and discover that it has been running for 8 or 9 years and that, until it was infested by pizzagaters, it was a site for people who liked raising/cooking/eating chooks. I would also remember that the poster cooks, eats and sells chooks, and knows lots of people who do one or more of those things.

If I then became aware of the two claims by pizzagaters, I would try to find out
1. Is it true that the yellow (or orange) necklace is a sex bracelet and is some sort of code for homosexual analingus? First, "sex bracelets" themselves appear to be an urban myth; but, yes, some versions of that urban myth list yellow as meaning "hug" and/or "analingus" (others list orange as "kiss").
However, there is absolutely nothing anywhere which links necklaces to the gel bracelets the subject of the urban myth - zero, zilch, nada.
2. Is it true that "chicken lover" has some other connotation? The answer is, yes, it is used to refer to homosexual paedophiles who prey on under-age boys.

So, what we are left with is the #chickenlovers hashtag, and its alternative connotations of either a reference to an entirely innocent food site by a person in the food industry who, presumably cooks, eats and sells chicken and chicken pizzas; or a reference to homosexual paedophiles who prey on young boys, but bizarrely appended to a photo featuring a young girl.

Occams Razor gives you the prima facie answer; it's an innocent picture of a young father and his infant daughter, with some connection to the poster, and an equally innocent reference to a perfectly harmless long-running twitter account which also, presumably has some associations for both the man and the poster.

And, incidentally, as a matter of process, it's not up to Alefante to answer or "explain" anything; people alleging a conspiracy have the onus of proving their case.
 
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