Strategy Play Frampton

Should the club play Frampton

  • Yes

    Votes: 18 18.8%
  • Yes

    Votes: 8 8.3%
  • Hell yeah!

    Votes: 70 72.9%

  • Total voters
    96

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240volt

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I find it funny people saying our forwards have to play in front and lead.
Like FFS that’s basic under 10s stuff and should be that way all day.
All this defensive forward hogwash is a poor excuse for poor forwards.
All the great goal kickers over the years would have never got a game at Port because they just kicked goals week in week out.
 

RossFC

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He barely should have played the one game he did play. If he was playing like he is this year then sure, but he wasn’t at all.
Did you see Ryder struggling last year? I don’t care how Framptons form was. Our season was stuffed and so was Ryder. You need to blood these guys for the long run. He proved in round 23 that he was not out of place. He would have reduced Dixon and Hoffs ruck time too to play in their proper spots.

Round 17: Vs Dockers. Ryder couldn’t play the full game.

Round 18: vs GWS Ryder didn’t play. Dixon/Hoff swapping between ruck and forward. Watts forward.

Round 19: Bulldogs were cooked, perfect opportunity to play Frampton. Ryder didn’t play the full game.

Round 21: vs West Coast. Ryder couldn’t play the full game.

Round 22: Collingwood Hoff and Ryder switching between ruck and full forward, Watts CHF. That’s super short. Dixon was out with a broken leg from the game before and didn’t get replaced.

Round 23: vs Essendon. Finally got a game.
 
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70sDinosaur

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He barely should have played the one game he did play. If he was playing like he is this year then sure, but he wasn’t at all.
I haven't seen Frampton play in the SANFL but on Sunday he delivered exactly what I expected, based on what I saw of him in the last game of last year.

That suggests to me that he should have played more AFL games than he has to date.
 

Kiss from a Rozee

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Nov 23, 2018
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I haven't seen Frampton play in the SANFL but on Sunday he delivered exactly what I expected, based on what I saw of him in the last game of last year.

That suggests to me that he should have played more AFL games than he has to date.
He showed glimpses up forward last year against Essendon but was horrible in the ruck which is where he was selected to play.

If he’d been playing as a forward all of last year he might’ve gotten more games.

Either way he is miles better than last year IMO. Has easily passed Butcher’s final years.
 

Jason K

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I find it funny people saying our forwards have to play in front and lead.
Like FFS that’s basic under 10s stuff and should be that way all day.
All this defensive forward hogwash is a poor excuse for poor forwards.
All the great goal kickers over the years would have never got a game at Port because they just kicked goals week in week out.
Its obviously a lot harder with AFL sides getting back in to the leading lanes so quick nowadays but just lead anyway. Lead directly at the sub 190cm spare defender, make them earn it. And if your lead isn't honoured, sprint back and lead again. Create chaos.
 

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rainwizard39

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You find it strange that a coach didn’t want to play a second year player who was undersized for the job in a position where he would have to contest every stoppage in the game, and so opted for a player who would see the ball maybe half the time up forward?
Why did you have to butt in and then go on to completely miss my point? Ryder was banned and Lobbe went down. Ken thought using Howard was a great idea instead of using an actual ruck, Frampton, because Frampton was too raw yet they’re the same age. It didn’t go well so Trengove got thrown there.
 

Janus

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Why did you have to butt in and then go on to completely miss my point? Ryder was banned and Lobbe went down. Ken thought using Howard was a great idea instead of using an actual ruck, Frampton, because Frampton was too raw yet they’re the same age. It didn’t go well so Trengove got thrown there.
Frampton is a poor ruck even now - good for a chop out but that's it. What do you think he would have been like in 2016 as a raw kid?

Anyway, in 2016, it went like this:

Lobbe rucked from R1-5. Howard played R2.

Neither Trengove nor Lobbe played in R6, which is why Dixon, Westhoff and Howard shared the ruck duties. Howard was brought in just for that match, because we went with a rotation system. We won that game against Richmond by 35 points FFS. Then Howard got dropped, and came back for the game against Melbourne - which we won by 45 points - and Collingwood, which we won by 67.

We lost the Bulldogs game that they both played in by 3 points, before he did his ACL against Fremantle.

Didn't go so well huh?
 

rainwizard39

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Frampton is a poor ruck even now - good for a chop out but that's it. What do you think he would have been like in 2016 as a raw kid?

Anyway, in 2016, it went like this:

Lobbe rucked from R1-5. Howard played R2.

Neither Trengove nor Lobbe played in R6, which is why Dixon, Westhoff and Howard shared the ruck duties. Howard was brought in just for that match, because we went with a rotation system. We won that game against Richmond by 35 points FFS. Then Howard got dropped, and came back for the game against Melbourne - which we won by 45 points - and Collingwood, which we won by 67.

We lost the Bulldogs game that they both played in by 3 points, before he did his ACL against Fremantle.

Didn't go so well huh?
It’s actually amazing how far you’ve taken this.
 

Byrons Firen

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Also I don't think Billy was wrestling so much as trying to get past being shepherded out of getting to the drop of the ball.
Hammer nail.
Watched the replay again last night and your right Sammy played well. A couple of untimely slips at crucial times
but it was that kind of game.
Gotta feeling we'll beat Hawthorn this week.
 

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