List Mgmt. Player Ages Thread

[BomberARMY]

I would definitely not be against trading TBC if the right deal was there for the future. I honestly feel we could use Ryder as our fulltime (Goldstein, Maric) ruckman with a backup (Currie, Grimley sort). If given the sole ruck position, Paddy would go close to winning a brownlow IMO. Dangle TBC to GWS and see what we can get, gotta be aggressive considering everything that has happened.

 

[lenny2013]

If the bombers want the Dogs pick 4 then it would have to be for someone like Carlisle. The dogs would love to have him and i would be prepared to offer up pick 4 to get him across. Should he not face a ban that is.

LoL

 

[Phone]

What's the joke there? That's the only way we are getting the Dogs pick 4. ie it's not a realistic prospect

 

[boydsno1]

What's the joke there? That's the only way we are getting the Dogs pick 4. ie it's not a realistic prospect

Exactly. If Essendon want a high first round pick then thats what it will cost for the dogs pick. Now if it's the dogs knocking for Carlisle then we may have to offer something up. But pick 4 wouldn't be far off the mark. No point giving us 3 players we don't need when we need to cut our list of dead wood as it is.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

If the bombers want the Dogs pick 4 then it would have to be for someone like Carlisle. The dogs would love to have him and i would be prepared to offer up pick 4 to get him across. Should he not face a ban that is.

Should we throw in Heppell as well?

 

[boydsno1]

Should we throw in Heppell as well?

Sure, Why not. I wasn't trying to be a smart us but fair enough.

Atleast it's more realistic then Dyson + Slattery.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Sure, Why not. I wasn't trying to be a smart us but fair enough.

Atleast it's more realistic then Dyson + Slattery.

I'm not saying Pears + Gumby wasn't ridiculous, but you'd be looking at 4 + a very good player for Carlisle. Those sort of players don't grow on trees, and you don't get them from other clubs for just one pick, no matter how high that pick is.

 

[Whispering_Jack]

I'm not saying Pears + Gumby wasn't ridiculous, but you'd be looking at 4 + a very good player for Carlisle. Those sort of players don't grow on trees, and you don't get them from other clubs for just one pick, no matter how high that pick is.

I also wasn't saying Pears and Gumby was realistic. Just a thought as it does fill a couple of holes that the dogs have - I accept it isn't enough.

Interestingly, this trade period may be the busiest for the club for some time.

 

[bombermick]

Dodoro and Keane have to take some calculated risks now. If he's availiable, we should jump at Garlett, as we must somehow get elite talent into the club. He may go off the rails, but the alternative is to be like the Crows and see other clubs fly past us.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

I also wasn't saying Pears and Gumby was realistic. Just a thought as it does fill a couple of holes that the dogs have - I accept it isn't enough.

Interestingly, this trade period may be the busiest for the club for some time.

I think Crameri might make the Dogs think a little about what they want to give us. Gumby and Pears less so.

 

[BrunoV]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/free-agents

rines suggested we might be targeting some "mid-level" free agents. Any thoughts on who they could be?

Michael Johnson would be worth a look IMO.

Johnson is a star. Surely Freo wont let him slide.

 

[BrunoV]

If Fletcher retires and Pears leaves, Toovey would be a very handy get.

Reckon Toovey signed a two year extension.

 

[Keystone agony]

Im not letting Belly go for anything less than a top 6 pick

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Johnson is a star. Surely Freo wont let him slide.

Lose Johnson, gain Franklin?

 

[Keystone agony]

Johnson is a star. Surely Freo wont let him slide.

Johnson is also a huge Ross Lyon fan and vice versa

 

[BrunoV]

There is a little bit of overreaction to the draft sanctions from a list management perspective.

As rines very astutely pointed out we are looking at a pick in the high teens and two picks in the low 30s. The principle aside, it isn't such a big deal that we need to be trading for the sake of having these picks...but then again the rationale is that picks are more important than players so recent comments are not that surprising.

We have 6-8 really promising young kids who are not yet fixtures in the side (JD, Kav, Dalgleish, Hams, Ashby and Gleeson; Merrett will certainly get a shit load better with another pre-season; we can probably call on one or both of Colyer and Browne) and a bottom line of young-mid aged key players in the best 22.

The loss of players is not even going to be felt.

 

[JR95]

Rumour on Triple M Adelaide that Hurley isn't happy at Essendon and wants out.

Right..

 

[BrunoV]

Lose Johnson, gain Franklin?

Reckon that Johnson is more important. Gun counter attacking key defender is a better fit for a structured side than a freak half forward flanker.

 

[Phone]

pretty sure johnson re-signed ages ago

 

[Zach Package]

How's Gia's body.

Reckon he'd be handy

 

[Donakebab]

How's Gia's body.

Reckon he'd be handy

Ultimate clubman. Absolutely zero chance of him leaving.

 

[WEEVZ]

Ultimate clubman. Absolutely zero chance of him leaving.

And don't forget the fact that he's 32 or something like that, too old for us to bother with.

 

[WEEVZ]

Sure, Why not. I wasn't trying to be a smart us but fair enough.

Atleast it's more realistic then Dyson + Slattery.

No way would we offer up either of Heppell or Carlisle, Heppell re-signed earlier in the year same as Carlisle too (I think). Heppell is probably our next captain and Carlisle offers us a tonne of versatility.

 

[Kaiser Powser]

Rumour on Triple M Adelaide that Hurley isn't happy at Essendon and wants out.

Hurley has already replied that that is an "absolute crock of shit"

Next.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

There is a little bit of overreaction to the draft sanctions from a list management perspective.

As rines very astutely pointed out we are looking at a pick in the high teens and two picks in the low 30s. The principle aside, it isn't such a big deal that we need to be trading for the sake of having these picks...but then again the rationale is that picks are more important than players so recent comments are not that surprising.

We have 6-8 really promising young kids who are not yet fixtures in the side (JD, Kav, Dalgleish, Hams, Ashby and Gleeson; Merrett will certainly get a shit load better with another pre-season; we can probably call on one or both of Colyer and Browne) and a bottom line of young-mid aged key players in the best 22.

The loss of players is not even going to be felt.

It's about having a generational gap though. Assuming we're happy with the Kav/Merrett/O'Brien/Dalgleish and Daniher/Ashby/Gleeson/Gregory drafts we'll have a solid group of 1993 and 1994 players, then we're really hoping and praying that we get something ok out of 1995 and 1996 before normal service resumes with 1997. There's immense pressure on 3rd round and later picks for two years (although Neagle, Daniher and Long might help that) and even more pressure on what we can get in the 2015 draft. Stuff it up like Essendon did with 1999-2001 (with only Hille and Welsh being of any value at all) and we'll be feeling it in the latter parts of this decade. You simply cannot afford to have a generational gap because it leaves you in a position where there's no kids forcing their way in, and you have to look elsewhere to top up the team - see Mark Alvey, Ty Zantuck and Justin Murphy.

Look at St Kilda - they should be starting to get service from their 3rd-5th year players, but those guys simply don't exist so they're struggling.

This year we saw Merrett force his way into the best 22, next year we're a good chance to see something similar from at least one of Dalgleish, Kavanagh, O'Brien, Browne or Gleeson. Once those names either make it or don't, we've got nothing coming in to replace the Winderlichs, Fletchers, Watsons and Goddards who are starting to decline.

Getting a pick in the 9-22 range (i.e GWS's first or second or the Dogs' second) is absolutely vital for ensuring we keep revitalising the list smoothly. Shrewd trading in the next few years to get 1995-1996 aged guys in will be important too. Looking to trade in a Melksham type after his 3rd year would be the plan.

Reckon that Johnson is more important. Gun counter attacking key defender is a better fit for a structured side than a freak half forward flanker.

Buddy hasn't really threatened the top 5-10 players in the comp list since 2008, but under Lyon, he'd be a 5 tackle, 3 goal a game forward at a minimum. Him and Mayne in the forwardline would be nigh on unstoppable in terms of forward retention.