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Player Comparison Thread - Part 2
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griffin and adcock IMO
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raines/kornes or ziebell/ABC
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Ive got another one
T Tuck + Cox + Roughhead
OR
Foley + Simmonds + Gia
Both sets would have made about the same number of points on average.
If i were to pick the first set, id be needing Roughead to be more of a focal point of the Hawthorn offense (hopefully due to even more attention to Buddy) and Tuck getting Crawfs old spot and getting some decent TOG.
In the second, id be looking at a more safe option with the potential for Foley to either gain 5-10pts with a better midfield around him or lose about the same due to Cousins, Cotchin and Coughlan being around.
At the moment im leaning towards Roughead, Tuck and Cox. Some help with the decision would be great.
T Tuck + Cox + Roughhead
OR
Foley + Simmonds + Gia
Both sets would have made about the same number of points on average.
If i were to pick the first set, id be needing Roughead to be more of a focal point of the Hawthorn offense (hopefully due to even more attention to Buddy) and Tuck getting Crawfs old spot and getting some decent TOG.
In the second, id be looking at a more safe option with the potential for Foley to either gain 5-10pts with a better midfield around him or lose about the same due to Cousins, Cotchin and Coughlan being around.
At the moment im leaning towards Roughead, Tuck and Cox. Some help with the decision would be great.
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I actually think this rolling zone business and not going man on man, could really help a player such as H.Shaw. Im starting to really take this on board. How many times did brissy kick backwards and short in their backline and the bombers couldnt care less with a 4 man line about 60 metres out. This rolling zone shit, may be a good strategy at on the field, however it makes footy really shit to watch. By me saying this its kick mark, kick mark. This could be hugely beneficial for a player like H.Shaw, that is why im starting to consider him now maybe instead of Lockyer or Birchall or Waite. He could pickup plenty of cheap marks ect. If teams are going to play this rolling zone they cant have a negative forward playing along side Shaw every step of the way like in some games last year. This means he will pick up some real cheap kicks and marks.
If Rich becomes your 5th midfielder than - no thanks
If Haselby is picked and is your 5th mid than take him
I think Rich's job secutity is still a worry the lions have had no injuries and Rich doesnt look to great at all in NAB games. Im not thinking Polkinghorne will be a better option than Rich as my 6th mid.
Its not about which player to take and who not to take. I personally think its more about your structure if your decidng on your 6th mid with these 2 than take Rich with some good backup. If your going for a 5th mid than take Haselby or your 4th mid.
Yeah that was my thinking too. The best way to break the zone is through accurate kicking, so teams will be looking for those players. Players like Shaw, Drummond and Gilbee should rack up the possies, and probably wont attract a tag (unlike previous years).
Its a gamble, but if it pays off it'll be a huge advantage.
boyd v joel selwood
before u comment, i rekon you should check boyd's history as a DTer, especially the last two seasons.
before u comment, i rekon you should check boyd's history as a DTer, especially the last two seasons.
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Is he best 22 ask yourself that question. Maric, Griffen are set for the rucks combo. Stevens will be a forward this year along with Hentschel, Gill, K.Tippett all ahead of Walker.
Tall Forward ratings
1. Stevens (3rd tall)
2. K.Tippett
3. N.Gill
4. Hentschel (if fit unless hes 5)
5. T.Walker (maybe 4 at best)
For Walker to get games i would expect that Stevens would need to play down back with 3 talls played in their forward line and him put ahead of Henstchel.
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^^ i agree a hack but probably the only CHF they have. The crows seem to rate him aswell. I think its because of his ability to present really well and create a contest, their other forwards wont do that at CHF.
Gia + Swan vs Kornes + Pav
note: im wanting a captain option with my mid pick, Swan and Kornes may both give me this. Doubting Kornes, though i think he could avg less than 08 ??
But im expecting a slwo start from Swan due to his opponents
Gia + Swan vs Kornes + Pav
note: im wanting a captain option with my mid pick, Swan and Kornes may both give me this. Doubting Kornes, though i think he could avg less than 08 ??
But im expecting a slwo start from Swan due to his opponents
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i would expect tippett and walker to work together all year...then stevens to swing both ways....hentschel will and gill will battle for the other spot
ive got walker in my team
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So your going to have Tippett, Walker, Stevens and Hentschel/Gill in the forward line at the same time.
Plus Burton will return along with player such as Edwards, Goodwin, Porplyzia and Dangerfield also hovering in the forward line. Plus a small elusive Jacky/petrenko. Some players have to miss and i wouldnt think you can go to top heavy in todays modern game or youll get torn apart. Roos got smashed by it and i think other teams wil aswell that go to top heavy.
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Rich option then.
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tippett will ruck at times...stevens in the backline at times...when burton comes in there will be decisions to be made....the small forwards will be either goodwin/thompson resting in forward line or jacky/petrenko if they continue to play well
i think will have a variety of forwards to choose from (quite different from recent years)...i dont think we should pick gill, ye he works hard and good leading forward but i dont think he is damaging enough....hentschel will ened to work himself back into football and there is a qustion if he can get back to some good form....i think it is a wait and see thing
Selwood + Mackie. Judd is more suited to SC and Hodge is recovering from an injury interrupted preseason.
Enright + Robinson v Myers + Skipworth
Judd + Hodge for sure.
It may be more of a risky option, but i can see Judd producing some massive scores this year ala. 2006, as he is now back to full fitness with a full pre-season under his belt. Hodge may be the deciding factor considering he has had a restricted pre-season due to injury, but if he can bounce back quickly he'll hit some massive scores.
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Enright + Robinson for me.
I don't see what the fuss is over Myers, sure he'll be a great player in time but can't see him scoring enough consistently to be classified a 'keeper'. I have avoided Skippy for all of the pre-season as i can't see him having the same scoring output come the regular season, but am only now starting to reconsider whether i should include him in my team. If he produces another score in the next match that's similar to his last 2 i'll be taking the gamble.
Enright has the runs on the board and should average about 80-90 for the season, and believe me when i say Robinson is going to be an instant DT accumulator. He had Palmer like possessions in both the TAC Cup and U-18 Comp, and if that is anything to go by he'll be quite a ball magnet. I have him on the bench at the moment, but am strongly swaying towards starting him ahead of Rich.
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Enright + Robinson for me.
I don't see what the fuss is over Myers, sure he'll be a great player in time but can't see him scoring enough consistently to be classified a 'keeper'. I have avoided Skippy for all of the pre-season as i can't see him having the same scoring output come the regular season, but am only now starting to reconsider whether i should include him in my team. If he produces another score in the next match that's similar to his last 2 i'll be taking the gamble.
Enright has the runs on the board and should average about 80-90 for the season, and believe me when i say Robinson is going to be an instant DT accumulator. He had Palmer like possessions in both the TAC Cup and U-18 Comp, and if that is anything to go by he'll be quite a ball magnet. I have him on the bench at the moment, but am strongly swaying towards starting him ahead of Rich.
is he in the blues best 22 tho?
I wouldn't say he is in the starting 18 yet, although i'd say he is in with quite a chance to keep his place in the best 22 even when Carrazzo comes back from injury, given he plays with the same intensity and determination as he did against the Roos. If so i'm confident Ratten will be willing to give him more opportunities to build upon his game.
Been thinking of better uses for my cash. I'm not so sure Myers will be the cash cow I think he is and have been considering the following:
Myers -> Hill
Save a huge amount of cash. Hill is obviously risker, but I think it's worth the 120k I save.
Lucas -> Skipworth
Not sold at all on Lucas. Don't think he moved well at all. Will improve with gametime, but looks to similar to Tredrea of a couple of years ago. Playing closer to goal will severely cut his scoring potential. Skipworth looks promising thus far.
Malceski -> Lockyer
Malceski's a risk because of injury. A number of options around that 340-380 range, with Lockyer in at the moment.
Knights -> Kornes
While I think Knights has a lot to offer, Kornes has a huge ceiling and is as safe as any DTer. Gives me another captaincy option.
All up,
Myers, Lucas, Malceski and Knights
become
Hill, Skipworth, Lockyer, Kornes + 20k.
I like it - thoughts?
Myers -> Hill
Save a huge amount of cash. Hill is obviously risker, but I think it's worth the 120k I save.
Lucas -> Skipworth
Not sold at all on Lucas. Don't think he moved well at all. Will improve with gametime, but looks to similar to Tredrea of a couple of years ago. Playing closer to goal will severely cut his scoring potential. Skipworth looks promising thus far.
Malceski -> Lockyer
Malceski's a risk because of injury. A number of options around that 340-380 range, with Lockyer in at the moment.
Knights -> Kornes
While I think Knights has a lot to offer, Kornes has a huge ceiling and is as safe as any DTer. Gives me another captaincy option.
All up,
Myers, Lucas, Malceski and Knights
become
Hill, Skipworth, Lockyer, Kornes + 20k.
I like it - thoughts?
More late night tinkering, came up with this:
Malceski + Myers vs Shaw/Newman + Raines +15k
Seems like a no brainer, but having Raines in the team gives me three backman under 250k, and im worried about their job security. Myers seems a safer mid-range bet.
Malceski + Myers vs Shaw/Newman + Raines +15k
Seems like a no brainer, but having Raines in the team gives me three backman under 250k, and im worried about their job security. Myers seems a safer mid-range bet.
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