List Mgmt. Player List Management 2020-21
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Kane Cornes has named the players for both Adelaide and Port Adelaide who need a big summer in order to be the big improvers of 2021.
“At Port Adelaide’s there’s a couple that need big summers and one of them is Todd Marshall,” he said.
“Sam Hayes is the third-string ruckman at Port Adelaide with big wraps on him.
“Sydney came hard for him in the trade period and Port Adelaide said no, we’re keeping you because we like what you can do.
“He needs to work on his aerobic ability and his tank so a big summer needed for Hayes.
“Also Riley Bonner. Somewhat at the crossroads of where he’s at. He’s shown the ability to be a good AFL player, but has been squeezed out with Port Adelaide’s strength across half-back.
“Jarrod Lienert needs a big pre-season as well. Similar to Bonner, has the strengths to be a good AFL player, but others have kept him out.
“Those two need to force there way into the side and play 18 to 20 games.”
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“At Port Adelaide’s there’s a couple that need big summers and one of them is Todd Marshall,” he said.
“Sam Hayes is the third-string ruckman at Port Adelaide with big wraps on him.
“Sydney came hard for him in the trade period and Port Adelaide said no, we’re keeping you because we like what you can do.
“He needs to work on his aerobic ability and his tank so a big summer needed for Hayes.
“Also Riley Bonner. Somewhat at the crossroads of where he’s at. He’s shown the ability to be a good AFL player, but has been squeezed out with Port Adelaide’s strength across half-back.
“Jarrod Lienert needs a big pre-season as well. Similar to Bonner, has the strengths to be a good AFL player, but others have kept him out.
“Those two need to force there way into the side and play 18 to 20 games.”
The six players who need a big summer according to Kane Cornes
Kane Cornes looks at six players who will be hoping for a big off-season.
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A bit sensationalistic from Kane as per usual. If either Bonner or Lienert play 18-20 games this season, it most likely means our backline has been decimated by injuries.
Burton, Hartlett, DBJ, Houston and Lachie Jones are all ahead of Bonner in the pecking order, whilst Lienert is further down the depth chart given we have traded in AA. Whilst Lienert is more of a 3rd tall type of player, I don't see how he is going to surpass what we currently have to warrant that selection.
Completely agree re: Marshall though. I have high expectations for him, just hope he can deliver consistently because his best is very good.
Burton, Hartlett, DBJ, Houston and Lachie Jones are all ahead of Bonner in the pecking order, whilst Lienert is further down the depth chart given we have traded in AA. Whilst Lienert is more of a 3rd tall type of player, I don't see how he is going to surpass what we currently have to warrant that selection.
Completely agree re: Marshall though. I have high expectations for him, just hope he can deliver consistently because his best is very good.
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So does Port now have one list spot to fill on the senior list at either the pre- or mid-season drafts next year?
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Only agree with Marshall. Dixon needs help.
Though AA stepping up filling a void is the other obvious one.
Doctor Feel
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We now have a Mead, a Schofield and a Burgoyne on the list.
The future is now old man
The future is now old man
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Port with the 9th oldest list and 6th most experienced:
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AFL Club Lists for 2021 - Draftguru
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St Kilda being the oldest team is a shock. Who else they got apart from Paddy Ryder?Port with the 9th oldest list and 6th most experienced:
AFL Club Lists for 2021 - Draftguru
Edit: I guess recruits Frawley and McKernan put it up a bit.
Doctor Feel
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Average age is such a rort. The differences between sides are rarely statistically significant, and given the sample sizes are only like 36 or so - it can be wildly skewed by one really old bloke on the list.
Jake Weidemann, son of ex-Crow Wayne Weidemann, and former Redleg Luke Surman join Port
The son of a former Crows cult figure and an ex-Redleg headline Port Adelaide’s SANFL signings ahead of the 2021 season.
Port Adelaide has announced five new signings with Jake Weidemann – the son of former Adelaide Crows cult figure Wayne Weidemann – headlining the list.
Port has also secured the signature of ex-Norwood and Hawthorn forward Luke Surman, as well as Jake Westbrook from Woodville-West Torrens, Dylan Aldridge (North Adelaide) and Campbell Wildman (Sturt/Prince Alfred Old Collegians).
Wiedemann featured in 13 reserves games for the Eagles this year after being unable to crack into the strong senior line up, which went on to win this year’s SANFL flag. The now 21-year-old nominated for the 2017 AFL draft after representing SA at the national under-18 championships, but was not selected.
Port’s SANFL manager Shane Grimm said Wiedemann was keen to don the black and white prison bars despite his father playing 68 games for Adelaide between 1991-96. “Jake has probably played out of position a little (at the Eagles), he’s tended to have to play in a key position role a little bit,” Grimm said.
“I think he just wanted to try something different. It was a very easy sell for us, we didn’t have to push too hard and he seems very keen and the Crows side hasn’t even been mentioned, he was just keen to be involved at Port Adelaide.”
Surman, meanwhile, was on Hawthorn’s list in 2017 before he walked away from an AFL career, returned to SA and joined Norwood. The 23-year-old lined up in five league matches and six reserves games with the Redlegs this year. “Luke was a good one because we are looking for a key forward who can ruck a little bit, at SANFL level that’s probably something we need,” Grim said.
“I think he sees it as maybe another (AFL) opportunity if he can do the right thing in an elite environment around some elite players who might help his game go to the next level. With us having the ability to list players mid-season … we do like to do it and not disrupt other SANFL clubs too much, it’d be good to have somebody close by who we already know about.”
“We’ve managed to pick up a few guys with a bit of league footy experience but who are reasonably young which is good,” Grimm said. "We are really looking forward to (getting back).”
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The son of a former Crows cult figure and an ex-Redleg headline Port Adelaide’s SANFL signings ahead of the 2021 season.
Port Adelaide has announced five new signings with Jake Weidemann – the son of former Adelaide Crows cult figure Wayne Weidemann – headlining the list.
Port has also secured the signature of ex-Norwood and Hawthorn forward Luke Surman, as well as Jake Westbrook from Woodville-West Torrens, Dylan Aldridge (North Adelaide) and Campbell Wildman (Sturt/Prince Alfred Old Collegians).
Wiedemann featured in 13 reserves games for the Eagles this year after being unable to crack into the strong senior line up, which went on to win this year’s SANFL flag. The now 21-year-old nominated for the 2017 AFL draft after representing SA at the national under-18 championships, but was not selected.
Port’s SANFL manager Shane Grimm said Wiedemann was keen to don the black and white prison bars despite his father playing 68 games for Adelaide between 1991-96. “Jake has probably played out of position a little (at the Eagles), he’s tended to have to play in a key position role a little bit,” Grimm said.
“I think he just wanted to try something different. It was a very easy sell for us, we didn’t have to push too hard and he seems very keen and the Crows side hasn’t even been mentioned, he was just keen to be involved at Port Adelaide.”
Surman, meanwhile, was on Hawthorn’s list in 2017 before he walked away from an AFL career, returned to SA and joined Norwood. The 23-year-old lined up in five league matches and six reserves games with the Redlegs this year. “Luke was a good one because we are looking for a key forward who can ruck a little bit, at SANFL level that’s probably something we need,” Grim said.
“I think he sees it as maybe another (AFL) opportunity if he can do the right thing in an elite environment around some elite players who might help his game go to the next level. With us having the ability to list players mid-season … we do like to do it and not disrupt other SANFL clubs too much, it’d be good to have somebody close by who we already know about.”
“We’ve managed to pick up a few guys with a bit of league footy experience but who are reasonably young which is good,” Grimm said. "We are really looking forward to (getting back).”
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RussellEbertHandball
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Geelong are younger than people think. St Kilda have a bigger middle age group.
Geelong have 21 players born since 1st Jan 1998. They only have 8 players born between 1993 and 1997. 8 players born between 1990 and 1992 and 7 players born in the 1980's. 44 on their list
St Kilda have 12 players born since 1st Jan 1998. They have 21 players born between 1993 and 1997. 4 players born between 1990 and 1992 and 3 players born in the 1980's. 40 on their list
Port have 21 players born since 1st Jan 1998. We only have 11 players born between 1993 and 1997. 7 players born between 1990 and 1992 and 3 players born in the 1980's inc Goldsack. 42 on our list
Average age doesn't really matter, its the spread in 3 or 4 year bands and age of say your best 16 players and best 25 players that is more relevant. Its these players that are going to drive results.
So are these all the guys we are going to have or do we still have Corcoran, Appleton, Elsworthy etcJake Weidemann, son of ex-Crow Wayne Weidemann, and former Redleg Luke Surman join Port
The son of a former Crows cult figure and an ex-Redleg headline Port Adelaide’s SANFL signings ahead of the 2021 season.
Port Adelaide has announced five new signings with Jake Weidemann – the son of former Adelaide Crows cult figure Wayne Weidemann – headlining the list.
Port has also secured the signature of ex-Norwood and Hawthorn forward Luke Surman, as well as Jake Westbrook from Woodville-West Torrens, Dylan Aldridge (North Adelaide) and Campbell Wildman (Sturt/Prince Alfred Old Collegians).
Wiedemann featured in 13 reserves games for the Eagles this year after being unable to crack into the strong senior line up, which went on to win this year’s SANFL flag. The now 21-year-old nominated for the 2017 AFL draft after representing SA at the national under-18 championships, but was not selected.
Port’s SANFL manager Shane Grimm said Wiedemann was keen to don the black and white prison bars despite his father playing 68 games for Adelaide between 1991-96. “Jake has probably played out of position a little (at the Eagles), he’s tended to have to play in a key position role a little bit,” Grimm said.
“I think he just wanted to try something different. It was a very easy sell for us, we didn’t have to push too hard and he seems very keen and the Crows side hasn’t even been mentioned, he was just keen to be involved at Port Adelaide.”
Surman, meanwhile, was on Hawthorn’s list in 2017 before he walked away from an AFL career, returned to SA and joined Norwood. The 23-year-old lined up in five league matches and six reserves games with the Redlegs this year. “Luke was a good one because we are looking for a key forward who can ruck a little bit, at SANFL level that’s probably something we need,” Grim said.
“I think he sees it as maybe another (AFL) opportunity if he can do the right thing in an elite environment around some elite players who might help his game go to the next level. With us having the ability to list players mid-season … we do like to do it and not disrupt other SANFL clubs too much, it’d be good to have somebody close by who we already know about.”
“We’ve managed to pick up a few guys with a bit of league footy experience but who are reasonably young which is good,” Grimm said. "We are really looking forward to (getting back).”
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Next year possibly another Burger, a Wanga's and a Francou?
In future years perhaps a Carter, a Monty, a Lade, and maybe a Borlase if he doesn't impress the Crows hierarchy?
It's building chaps.
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We need a left footer in the middle. If we can't get the Bont, then Merrett is probably the most gettable Free Agent.
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Port 6th in terns of average games played and 9th in terms of average age.
Just perfect in terms of playing in the GF over the next 3 years.
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Just perfect in terms of playing in the GF over the next 3 years.
Older, wiser... better? Where your club ranks in the experience stakes
Geelong, St Kilda and West Coast top the experience charts ahead of 2021, but which flag contender bucks the trend?
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Port 6th in terns of average games played and 9th in terms of average age.
Just perfect in terms of playing in the GF over the next 3 years.
Older, wiser... better? Where your club ranks in the experience stakes
Geelong, St Kilda and West Coast top the experience charts ahead of 2021, but which flag contender bucks the trend?
I hope so. A closer look at our age demographic has me a little concerned, or at least hoping that some young players reach their potential quickly with an impressive trade or two.
3 of the 5 players in the AA squad from our team are now 30+. Jonas, Boak and Dixon. Of our 8 players over 30 (Geelong is the only team with 9) arguably 7 are in our best 22. The others are Gray, Rockliff, Hartlett and Motlop. McKenzie will turn 30 in early April. None of those players will be playing, or at least playing to anywhere near their current level, in 3 years time. Plus they are more likely to sustain injury.
We have 19 players aged 22 or under meaning they will still only be 25 in 3 years time and arguably still to play their best footy. We have to hope that some hit their peak early Bontempelli style or trade in free agents that are ready to go, to replace those players over 30.
We have 14 players over the wide age bracket of 23-28.
Teams buck the trend, but generally most teams that play in and win grand finals have a first 22 whose average age is about 26-27 with their best players in their mid to late twenties at an ideal. And that average age doesn't mean they have 11 players aged 31 and 11 aged 21 which is why the average age without closer inspection can look misleading.
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9-10-11 was pretty bad.
2010 had this guy call Tom Jonas in the rookie draft....
It's almost like the SANFL bled us so dry we couldn't afford a football department to scout talent to anything like the degree other clubs could.
2011 had Chad.
