Player Origin Breakdown

[Matchu]

I thought now would be an interesting time to revisit this thread. I said previously in this thread that I thought the Lions should draft more Queenslanders and it certainly looks like that's what they're doing.

Victoria (19 players, 40%)
Allen Christensen
Jed Adcock
Stefan Martin
Trent West
Josh Clayton
Daniel McStay
Tom Cutler
Darcy Gardiner
Lewis Taylor
Jaden McGrath
Michael Close
Ryan Lester
Matt Maguire
Tom Rockliff
Jackson Paine
Mitch Golby
Billy Evans
Zac O'Brien
Hugh Beasley

Queensland (11 players, 23.5%)
Luke McGuane
Dayne Beams
Dayne Zorko
Claye Beams
Daniel Merrett
Liam Dawson
Harris Andrews
Jonathan Freeman
Matthew Hammelmann
Archie Smith
Jordon Bourke

Tasmania (5 players, 10.5%)
Ryan Harwood
Mitch Robinson
Josh Green
Josh Watts
Josh McGuinness

Western Australia (5 players, 10.5%)
Rohan Bewick
Daniel Rich
Nick Robertson
Marco Paparone
Matthew Leuenberger

South Australia (4 players, 8.5%)
James Aish
Jack Redden
Sam Mayes
Justin Clarke

Ireland (2 players, 4%)
Pearce Hanley
Cian Hanley

New South Wales (1 player, 2%)
Brent Staker

So the obvious difference is the increase in Tasmanians and Queenslanders. The no go-home factor with players from those two states make the statistic easy to understand. Nearly a quarter of the list hails from Queensland which I think is a strong contingent of locals and should help build the culture at the club. We also know a few more Queenslanders are heading the Lions' way in this off season so that number could be creeping up around 30% in the near future. As long as the academy continues to produce talent, the Lions should drafted as many Queenslanders as possible IMO. The benefits won't be seen for at least five years from now but I'm sure a lot of people understand what I'm getting at.

 

[AFLQLD]

The recruiting of Queenslanders will continue to be a moderately high priority for both Qld teams I think. It plays two roles, the first crucial and the second helpful. By drafting Queenslanders we do cure the Go Home factor and can build teams around those players long term. We also get the marketing and promotional advantage of the Queenslander factor which plays well here. The obvious caveat is that the talent must be here and be identified.

The Sunshine Coast being in the Brisbane zone is fairly critical to balance out the zones. The Lions academy system is well known on the Sunshine Coast and one local club plays a junior team in the Brisbane comp to help expose their best players to a higher standard.

The north side of Brisbane up as far as Gympie is an area of real potential if the AFL get in and do it right. The population is growing consistently, with a young demographic and access to clubs. There are enough families from southern states who bring with them a footy culture. It is not uncommon to see five different club jerseys at junior footy training. The Lions can win those youngsters over. The Lions can't do it all themselves but the academy gives players a genuine pathway and a glimpse of the prize of professional footy.

Rugby league and to a far lesser extent, union will dominate for decades to come but a strong academy and development system, top Qld youth regularly getting to AFL level and some onfield success by the Lions make a pretty big difference.

 

[John_Proctor]

Some comparators.

Collingwood and west coast 50%+ local product. Adelaide 35%.

Assume that's consistent for most of the football States...

 

[John_Proctor]

The north side of Brisbane up as far as Gympie is an area of real potential if the AFL get in and do it right. The population is growing consistently, with a young demographic and access to clubs. There are enough families from southern states who bring with them a footy culture. It is not uncommon to see five different club jerseys at junior footy training. The Lions can win those youngsters over. The Lions can't do it all themselves but the academy gives players a genuine pathway and a glimpse of the prize of professional footy.

Not sure if it made any news up there but they showed a women's afl game on channel 7 here Sunday as a curtain raiser to their regular Sunday game. It out-rated essendon v Adelaide men's game on Saturday. Talk of setting up a minimum 6 team 'elite' competition in melbourne backed by afl clubs soon...

Any thoughts on brisbanes efforts to push women's football in brsbane and the assistance of this (in association with academies and other measures) to grow the base of the game. Women's players obviously don't help the stats in this thread in the short term but as they influence their partners or kids into being afl fans that's where the Long term payoff would be.

 

[Caiphus]

Not sure if it made any news up there but they showed a women's afl game on channel 7 here Sunday as a curtain raiser to their regular Sunday game. It out-rated essendon v Adelaide men's game on Saturday. Talk of setting up a minimum 6 team 'elite' competition in melbourne backed by afl clubs soon...

Any thoughts on brisbanes efforts to push women's football in brsbane and the assistance of this (in association with academies and other measures) to grow the base of the game. Women's players obviously don't help the stats in this thread in the short term but as they influence their partners or kids into being afl fans that's where the Long term payoff would be.

That's just going to grow the women's game even more isn't it? It's pretty hard to pry them away from roller derby...

 

[dlanod]

Some comparators.

Collingwood and west coast 50%+ local product. Adelaide 35%.

Assume that's consistent for most of the football States...

Oh god, please tell me that's true. If so, the team that's lost Davis, Gunston, Bock and (presumably) Dangerfield would now be eligible for the old retention allowance.

Theoretically it is available to every club, since it applies to clubs whose lists have fewer than 40 per cent of local players.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/09/17/1095394012423.html?from=storylhs

 

[Matchu]

A big of an awkward time to do it because the trade period isn't over but we know most of the deals that are going down so we can predict what is going to happen from here.

Victoria (18 players)
Hugh Beasley
Allen Christensen
Josh Clayton
Michael Close
Tom Cutler
Billy Evans
Darcy Gardiner
Ryan Lester
Stefan Martin
Jaden McGrath
Daniel McStay
Zac O'Brien
Jackson Paine
Tom Rockliff
Lewis Taylor
Josh Walker
Trent West
Jacob Weitering/Josh Schache (draftee to come)

Queensland (13 players)
Harris Andrews
Dayne Beams
Claye Beams
Tom Bell
Liam Dawson
Jonathan Freeman
Matthew Hammelmann
Eric Hipwood (draftee to come)
Ben Keays (draftee to come)
Daniel Merrett
Archie Smith
Brendan Whitecross (likely to sign)
Dayne Zorko

Tasmania (5 players)
Josh Green
Ryan Harwood
Josh McGuinness
Mitch Robinson
Josh Watts

Western Australia (5 players)
Rohan Bewick
Jarrad Jansen
Marco Paparone
Daniel Rich
Nick Robertson

South Australia (2/3 players)
James Aish (almost definitely will be leaving)
Justin Clarke
Sam Mayes

Ireland (2 players)
Cian Hanley
Pearce Hanley

So you're looking at nearly 30% of Brisbane's list hailing from Queensland. I think it's a very good move by the club to continue to recruit Queenslanders that are up to the AFL standard. Experimental, you will probably be interested in this.

Fun fact - there will likely be 6 players named Josh at the Lions in 2016.

 

[Haso]

The Joshenist club in town.

 

[Experimental]

A big of an awkward time to do it because the trade period isn't over but we know most of the deals that are going down so we can predict what is going to happen from here.

Victoria (18 players)
Hugh Beasley
Allen Christensen
Josh Clayton
Michael Close
Tom Cutler
Billy Evans
Darcy Gardiner
Ryan Lester
Stefan Martin
Jaden McGrath
Daniel McStay
Zac O'Brien
Jackson Paine
Tom Rockliff
Lewis Taylor
Josh Walker
Trent West
Jacob Weitering/Josh Schache (draftee to come)

Queensland (13 players)
Harris Andrews
Dayne Beams
Claye Beams
Tom Bell
Liam Dawson
Jonathan Freeman
Matthew Hammelmann
Eric Hipwood (draftee to come)
Ben Keays (draftee to come)
Daniel Merrett
Archie Smith
Brendan Whitecross (likely to sign)
Dayne Zorko

Tasmania (5 players)
Josh Green
Ryan Harwood
Josh McGuinness
Mitch Robinson
Josh Watts

Western Australia (5 players)
Rohan Bewick
Jarrad Jansen
Marco Paparone
Daniel Rich
Nick Robertson

South Australia (2/3 players)
James Aish (almost definitely will be leaving)
Justin Clarke
Sam Mayes

Ireland (2 players)
Cian Hanley
Pearce Hanley

So you're looking at nearly 30% of Brisbane's list hailing from Queensland. I think it's a very good move by the club to continue to recruit Queenslanders that are up to the AFL standard. Experimental, you will probably be interested in this.

Fun fact - there will likely be 6 players named Josh at the Lions in 2016.

Awesome write up, Matchu! Having 13 QLD players is very impressive, especially given a lot of them are key figures at the club

 

[Matchu]

Awesome write up, Matchu! Having 13 QLD players is very impressive, especially given a lot of them are key figures at the club

The Suns have just 5 Queenslanders on their list now.

 

[Davemonkey]

The Joshenist club in town.

Needs more Jaden/Jayden/Jayhden/Jaydn/Jay-Den

 

[Experimental]

The Suns have just 5 Queenslanders on their list now.

Care to do another origin breakdown on the Suns forum?

 

[wantok]

A trio of Josh's need to step up this year Clayton,Watts,McGuiness. Hopefully all bulked up a bit or their spots are in serious danger

 

[braddsey]

Awesome write up, Matchu! Having 13 QLD players is very impressive, especially given a lot of them are key figures at the club

The Suns have just 5 Queenslanders on their list now.

Aside from the obvious of having local talent, a smart move stocking up on local boys to assist with the "go home factor" playing in our favour. The number of players that chose a club because they want to go and play with their mates then having a strong list of local talent gives a better chance of QLD boys choosing the Lions over the Suns.

 

[Matchu]

Aside from the obvious of having local talent, a smart move stocking up on local boys to assist with the "go home factor" playing in our favour. The number of players that chose a club because they want to go and play with their mates then having a strong list of local talent gives a better chance of QLD boys choosing the Lions over the Suns.

Queenslanders are generally very proud of their state so I can see what you're saying. I think ideally you want the percentage of Queenslanders on the list to be up around the 40-50% mark so it helps develop the culture of a homey club. Probably the only Queenslanders worth chasing that aren't playing for Queensland-based club are Tippett and Armitage. Armitage likely going nowhere but Tippett is probably gettable next year when he's off contract.

 

[Experimental]

Probably the only Queenslanders worth chasing that aren't playing for Queensland-based club are Tippett and Armitage.

I'd get Spurr from Freo too!

 

[Matchu]

Now that the 2016 list is finalised, I thought it would be a good time to check in with this thread. The Lions are edging closer and closer to that target of having 30% of the list hail from Queensland.

Victoria (20 players, 43%)
Allen Christensen
Stefan Martin
Trent West
Josh Clayton
Daniel McStay
Tom Cutler
Darcy Gardiner
Lewis Taylor
Jaden McGrath
Michael Close
Ryan Lester
Tom Rockliff
Billy Evans
Hugh Beasley
Josh Walker
Ryan Bastinac
Josh Schache
Rhys Mathieson
Sam Skinner
Jackson Paine

Queensland (13 players, 28%)
Dayne Beams
Dayne Zorko
Claye Beams
Daniel Merrett
Liam Dawson
Harris Andrews
Jonathan Freeman
Matthew Hammelmann
Archie Smith
Tom Bell
Eric Hipwood
Ben Keays
Reuben William

Tasmania (5 players, 10.5%)
Ryan Harwood
Mitch Robinson
Josh Green
Josh Watts
Josh McGuinness

Western Australia (5 players, 10.5%)
Rohan Bewick
Daniel Rich
Nick Robertson
Marco Paparone
Jarred Jansen

Ireland (2 players, 4%)
Pearce Hanley
Cian Hanley

South Australia (2 players, 4%)
Sam Mayes
Justin Clarke

 

[AFLQLD]

Lesson perhaps learned on the South Australians perhaps.

Although Clarkey is SA but SA country and loves Brisbane.

Mayes hopefully gets really settled in this year and commits long term.

Hopefully we get no more of the flight-risk type South Australians.

 

[Matchu]

Lesson perhaps learned on the South Australians perhaps.

Although Clarkey is SA but SA country and loves Brisbane.

Mayes hopefully gets really settled in this year and commits long term.

Hopefully we get no more of the flight-risk type South Australians.

If Rich ends up leaving via free agency, would that turn WA players into flight risks as well? Leuenberger left through free agency this year after all. You can see there is an emphasis on recruiting Victorians, Tasmanians (no go home factor) and Queenslanders.

 

[M Malice]

Now that the 2016 list is finalised, I thought it would be a good time to check in with this thread. The Lions are edging closer and closer to that target having 30% of the list hail from Queensland.

Victoria (21 players, 45%)
Allen Christensen
Stefan Martin
Trent West
Josh Clayton
Daniel McStay
Tom Cutler
Darcy Gardiner
Lewis Taylor
Jaden McGrath
Michael Close
Ryan Lester
Tom Rockliff
Billy Evans
Hugh Beasley
Josh Walker
Jarred Jansen
Ryan Bastinac
Josh Schache
Rhys Mathieson
Sam Skinner
Jackson Paine

Queensland (13 players, 28%)
Dayne Beams
Dayne Zorko
Claye Beams
Daniel Merrett
Liam Dawson
Harris Andrews
Jonathan Freeman
Matthew Hammelmann
Archie Smith
Tom Bell
Eric Hipwood
Ben Keays
Reuben William

Tasmania (5 players, 10.5%)
Ryan Harwood
Mitch Robinson
Josh Green
Josh Watts
Josh McGuinness

Western Australia (4 players, 8.5%)
Rohan Bewick
Daniel Rich
Nick Robertson
Marco Paparone

Ireland (2 players, 4%)
Pearce Hanley
Cian Hanley

South Australia (2 players, 4%)
Sam Mayes
Justin Clarke

absolutely brilliant that the queensland percentage is 28%, would love to see it at 50% in 5 to 10 years.

 

[Ironmonger]

Matchu, how many QLDers do the Suns have on their list now? They lose at least three I can think of during the off-season.

 

[Matchu]

Matchu, how many QLDers do the Suns have on their list now? They lost at least three I can think of during the off-season.

Five. Two of five those players (Cameron and Sexton) are from Brisbane. Of the Lions' 13 Queenslanders, four are from the Gold Coast (C.Beams, D.Beams, Merrett, Zorko). Brisbane's academy is definitely bearing more fruit than the Gold Coast's at the moment but word is that the Suns will have two first round picks coming out of their academy next year.

 

[pOleK]

Hopefully this time next year able to push that number a bit further with the likely additions of Allison and Rolls, futures looking bright.

 

[serial_thrilla]

Now that the 2016 list is finalised, I thought it would be a good time to check in with this thread. The Lions are edging closer and closer to that target having 30% of the list hail from Queensland.

Victoria (21 players, 45%)
Allen Christensen
Stefan Martin
Trent West
Josh Clayton
Daniel McStay
Tom Cutler
Darcy Gardiner
Lewis Taylor
Jaden McGrath
Michael Close
Ryan Lester
Tom Rockliff
Billy Evans
Hugh Beasley
Josh Walker
Jarred Jansen
Ryan Bastinac
Josh Schache
Rhys Mathieson
Sam Skinner
Jackson Paine

Queensland (13 players, 28%)
Dayne Beams
Dayne Zorko
Claye Beams
Daniel Merrett
Liam Dawson
Harris Andrews
Jonathan Freeman
Matthew Hammelmann
Archie Smith
Tom Bell
Eric Hipwood
Ben Keays
Reuben William

Tasmania (5 players, 10.5%)
Ryan Harwood
Mitch Robinson
Josh Green
Josh Watts
Josh McGuinness

Western Australia (4 players, 8.5%)
Rohan Bewick
Daniel Rich
Nick Robertson
Marco Paparone

Ireland (2 players, 4%)
Pearce Hanley
Cian Hanley

South Australia (2 players, 4%)
Sam Mayes
Justin Clarke

Jansen is from WA.

 

[Matchu]

Jansen is from WA.

Good pick up. Updated.