Review Player Ratings Grand Final

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Apr 19, 2013
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Well, not quite sure what happened. Not sad, not upset, not disappointed... disgusted. 100% disgusted, it was an effort the players should be ashamed of.

Defenders:
Nick Smith|4/10|Beaten by most of the players he played on, he wasn't alone
\Ted Richards|5/10|He did OK on Roughead and other opponents, but why the heck he was paired up on Poppy, I have no idea
\Nick Malceski|3/10|Was awful in just about everything he did, turned the ball over, missed so many tackles
\Gary Rohan|2/10|Was worse than Malceski, but wasn't the worst defender, he did OK in some contests, went for a run down the wing (****ed it up though), but was way out of his depth
\Heath Grundy|7/10|Was by and far our best defender, smashed whoever he played against especially when it was a 1on1 contest. Was sold up the river a number of times by his team mates when they pissed off up the field and left him 1v2, but he still did well, bringing the ball to ground. I don't remember any of his opponents getting the better of him.
\Dane Rampe|3/10|Was out of his depth and showed up. He tried hard all day but was smashed over the four quarters
\Rhyce Shaw|1/10|Wasn't our worst player, but barely better than our worst. I think he had 3 effective kicks for the entire match, turned it over constantly everywhere across the field, missed handballs, couldn't lay a single tackle all game, and was found constantly lagging behind his opponent, or completely switched off

Midfielders:
Kieren Jack|5/10|Worked tirelessly, but always caught behind his opponent. It was almost as if he didn't have anyone to play against.
\Josh Kennedy|6/10|Our best midfielder, did what he could, kicked our first goal, played well but was not helped at all
\Ben McGlynn|4.5/10|Faded in and out of the match, had some impact, then went AWOL for 20 minutes having no impact in any contest or whatever
\Mike Pyke|6.5/10|Played well in the ruck, won the contests, but roundly beaten across the field as if he wasn't even playing.
\Luke Parker|2.5/10|Awful, enough said.
\Jarrad McVeigh|4.5/10|Was not good, didn't have anywhere near enough impact on the game, but his skills were good. Always found lagging behind any opponent he was on.
\Lewis Jetta|0/10|Can't think of anything positive to say. I used to think that Leon Davis's 2002 GF was piss-poor, but Jetta was by far worse than Leon. Did not hit a target, did not break free from an opponent, did not chase, did not tackle, and to top it off, kicked it in to a 2v1 only for the ball to sail over his head 10 seconds later. ******* squib.
\Jake Lloyd|3.5/10|Couldn't get near it, but he was far from the worst player in the 1st half and I think Longmire made a bad call sub'ing him off.
\Craig Bird|5/10|There was a clear lift in the midfield when he came on, and we weren't getting annihilated and bent over in the 3rd with him on.

Forwards:
Dan Hannebery|3/10|Poor skills, poor execution, couldn't lay a tackle, didn't chase and certainly couldn't break free of his tag. Unsighted for large periods of the game.
\Lance Franklin|6.5/10|One of our best players, if it wasn't for him it was Port Adelaide 2007 all over again.
\Harry Cunningham|2.5/10|Wasn't sure he was playing sometimes, had to look across the ground to find him. Don't think he had an opponent, or at least played nowhere near him.
\Adam Goodes|6/10|Did his best and it looked like he might drag us back into the game, but no one went with him.
\Kurt Tippet|5/10|Wasn't great, but wasn't bad, pretty average really. Good in the ruck, average as a forward, but the way the ball was coming in, he had no chance.
\Sam Reid|4/10|A lot of fans at the ground boo'd him. He was far from our worst player. Sure, he didn't chase hard and missed a lot of marks, but * me when Shaw kicks it over your head from 15 metres away, what else can he do?

I've tried to make it balanced and objective from my point of view at the game. I'd like to hear what other people think.
 

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Agree with all of that.
Tippett & Reid closer to 3/10 than 5/10.
Franklin 7.5, I felt sorry for him that he had to put up with the other 21 blokes in our team.
Jetta can ship off.
 
I would give Franklin and Goodes a feed.

Thought Lloyd was fine and composed and didn't butcher the thing - not his job to get the thing and i can't bring myself to crucify him or Harry when 200 gamers were playing lime NEAFL also rans around them.

Grundy was fine but he must be a gibbering wreck given how easy it came in.

Apart from that the rest can go beg for supper.

Sorry Bird was fine as well.

I mean what can honestly be said from that debacle?

I feel rating the players is counter productive from that performance. Why even bother (that is not a crack aat the OP just an opinion)

You would love to say it is an aberration and maybe it is but emotion will not let me let them off that easy.
 
Ratings for Reid, Rohan, Jetta and McVeigh are too high
He was OK in patches, but it wasn't for a like of effort, because he was always busting his gut chasing players. Not like Jack, who I would have given 3 if it wasn't for his goals, Cunningham, Parker or Hanners who were ******* awful. Subbing Lloyd instead of Jetta was a bad move.
 
You would love to say it is an aberration and maybe it is but emotion will not let me let them off that easy.

Yeah well I'm not going to Lakeside Oval tomorrow because I'm not sure what I'll say or do if I get close to Shaw or Jetta. They let us down. I'd probably strangle Jetta if I could get close enough.

Shaw - retire
Malceski & Jetta - ship them
 
Geez the angst directed towards jetta seems ott. He was off for concussion at half time. He had clearly been buried. I can't think of a single midfielder who deserves better than 4.

At some point we just have to acknowledge that we had losers everywhere, not just on our wings.
 
Hawks did their homework on Parker, he tried hard but was swamped in the contests, he now needs to learn to break a tag.

Jetta...didn't seem interested and lazy

Shaw was atrocious. Should not be here next year and I would happily give jones his spot .

Reid. Bit of a nothing game , as said in previous threads, send him to the 2's and only pick him when it is impossible not to pick him.

Rohan looked low in confidence, should be better for the experience.

Tippett should purely be a key forward, while he can compete in the ruck, his lack of mobility renders his useless in play. Plus olaying him out of the 50 let's the opposition off and they can purely concentrate on buddy.

Can't be bothered going through every player
 
Geez the angst directed towards jetta seems ott. He was off for concussion at half time. He had clearly been buried. I can't think of a single midfielder who deserves better than 4.

At some point we just have to acknowledge that we had losers everywhere, not just on our wings.
Nah he's shithouse. First quarter he had no interest in doing anything.
 
Jetta - I can't remember but there was this chase down the wing AND HE HAD NO INTENSITY LIKE ******* CHASE HIM!!!! ITS THE GRAND FINAL WHERE'S YOUR DESPERAION!!! kfaskkaosokapokp asokpdas wokaspafajokspap
 
Cunnigham Parker and Llyod probs lower. Nick smith as well. McVeigh and Jack the two captains needed to show their leadership abilities. Hodge and Mitchell did what they had to do. Goodes really try, he did you can see how much he loved the swans. Buddy was our best in a team full of duds (for today). Did well buddy deserve a 7 at least. He was the one under the most intense pressure and expectations.
 

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All the defenders deserve praise. Imagine the ball cumin into your defense as fast and as pinpoint as it was. WTF do people expect from Reid?? Carey esk stats. Poor Mal was under so much pressure that in the end he'd just bomb it out hopeing for a contest up the field. As much as I luv McGlynn he ain't an elite midfielder, he's a fwd pocket/half forward specialist who can pinch hit in the midfield. It showed today.
 
0 - Jetta
1 - Shaw
1 - Reid
2 - Rohan
2 - Rampe
3 - Bird
3 - Parker
3 - McVeigh
3 - Tippett
3.5 - Lloyd
4 - Hannebery
4.5 - Richards
4.5 - Malceski
4.5 - Pyke
5 - Jack
5 - Goodes
6 - Kennedy
7 - Grundy
8 - Franklin

?? - McGlynn
?? - Smith
?? - Cunningham
Didn't notice any of these 3.
 
0 - Jetta
1 - Shaw
1 - Reid
2 - Rohan
2 - Rampe
3 - Bird
3 - Parker
3 - McVeigh
3 - Tippett
3.5 - Lloyd
4 - Hannebery
4.5 - Richards
4.5 - Malceski
4.5 - Pyke
5 - Jack
5 - Goodes
6 - Kennedy
7 - Grundy
8 - Franklin

?? - McGlynn
?? - Smith
?? - Cunningham
Didn't notice any of these 3.
I simply couldn't rate anyone other than Pyke and franklin as being better than a 4 and none of the coaches deserve more than a 3. Pyke and franklin halved their positions. Everyone else was beaten.
 
I simply couldn't rate anyone other than Pyke and franklin as being better than a 4 and none of the coaches deserve more than a 3. Pyke and franklin halved their positions. Everyone else was beaten.
Pyke owned the ruck, absolutely dominated physically. You could see it across the ground and Hale couldn't move him at all. He got beaten around the ground though.
 
Winning the hitouts doesn't mean much to me when Pyke only has 9 touches to back that up. He was good in the ruck but considering Hawthorn dominated clearances what does it matter?
 
Winning the hitouts doesn't mean much to me when Pyke only has 9 touches to back that up. He was good in the ruck but considering Hawthorn dominated clearances what does it matter?
It wasn't his fault, he had a s**t load of hits to advantage and the swans butchered the ball so very badly that the hawks kept walking it out.
 
Goodes, Pyle an Franklin can walk away knowing they played a grand final, Grundy maybe too, I don't blame the defence an I don't blame our offence, when the midfield wins a clearence then we'll see how we cope
 
Franklin played very well considering how the midfield went. 5 marks, all contested, all inside 50.

Backline was poor but there was no midfield pressure to help out at all.

Midfield was dreadful, insipid, and we probably couldn't beat anyone with that effort.
 
Franklin played very well considering how the midfield went. 5 marks, all contested, all inside 50.

Backline was poor but there was no midfield pressure to help out at all.

Midfield was dreadful, insipid, and we probably couldn't beat anyone with that effort.

Game was replay for four quarters of what Richmond, hawthorn and freo have done to us over last 12 months. Beat us inside, pressure hbf and hit targets as we trail players. The repeated breakdown for the get out kick to hb wing also showed us unable to force contests and trap the ball.
 

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