Players likely to get delisted at the end of the season?

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just wondering who you guys think will get delisted at the end of the season.

Theres a few that i think may get the boot:

James Gwilt
Andrew McQualter
Phil Raymond:thumbsdown:
Justin Sweeney

there 4 players i would say will go at seasons end.
 

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It all depends on who retires. I would suggest Thompson is a certainty to retire, M Clarke & Harvey 75%, Gehrig 50% and Voss 25%. Injuries will spur Hudghton, Hamill & Gardiner onto 2008.

So let's say Harvey, M Clarke and Thompson retire. That would enable St Kilda to promote rookies Jayden Attard and Clinton Jones, which I believe they will do. Then we have to delist at least two players.

The three most likely, in my opinion, are Raymond, McQualter & Brooks. If Ferguson has a shocker tonight he would be every chance as well instead of Brooks or McQualter. The list of players on the "hot seat", as it were, are Brooks, McQualter, Raymond, Sweeney & Ferguson.
 
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McQualter is going NO WHERE, he is contracted... Anyways, what we we get for him?!?!?! 4th round pick????

Too many players are retiring for any delistings, however I wouldnt be suprised if Ross Lyon wants a clean out...
 
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I wouldnt be suprised if Ross Lyon wants a clean out...
Hopefully.
Player's like attard, jones, raph clarke, gilbert...their all 3rd string players, and are getting us no where. Constantly, week after week, we have more errors than other teams, crucial errors inside 50, costing us goals.
These players are the main cause of these errors.
 

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... Voss 25% ....

The list of players on the "hot seat", as it were, are ... Ferguson.
Voss has never been a favourite of Lyon - and his effort today will not have improved his standing (in particular because of the totally unnecessary and silly 50m he gave away in the last quarter when the Saints had the momentum going - such lack of discipline is just not acceptable at such stage of a game and the season).

I thought that Ferguson had a solid game - a bit nervous in the first, but then defended reasonably well against LeCras (should have possibly have taken over Lynch once it was clear that MacGuire couldn't control him).
 

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What should happen

Retire: Thompson, M.Clarke, Voss
Delist: Raymond, Ferguson

Rookies
Elevate: Attard, Geary
Retain: Van Rheenen, Eddy
Delist: Jones, Wall

What will happen

Retire: Harvey, Thompson, M.Clarke
Delist: Raymond, Brooks, Sweeney

Rookies
Elevate: Attard, Jones
Retain: Van Rheenen, Eddy, Geary, Wall
Delist: Nil

Hopefully.
Player's like attard, jones, raph clarke, gilbert...their all 3rd string players, and are getting us no where. Constantly, week after week, we have more errors than other teams, crucial errors inside 50, costing us goals.
These players are the main cause of these errors
Go and get yourself checked out. I think your brain may be missing.
 

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I'm going to name players who annoy me not all through lack of skill but because of lack of awareness and effort and just plain stupidity. Niggling injuries be damned we all know isn't cutting it.

Goddard - No secret i never liked him, i know hes out for the year but now with a knee reconstruction hes going to be even worse when he comes back in next year. Poor decision making and deathly slow speed...

Maguire - Got huge wraps his whole career. I could never see it, still don't. Yep, hes a good mark and kick and corageous as. Shame hes one of the most undicipined, mentally lazy players you'll ever come across.

Ferguson - Didn't look likely tonight, hes been on the list long enough, draft a kid and hope cos clearly hes not cutting it.

Voss - Always like him, unfortunate hes not cutting it anymore, time to go.

Raph Clarke - He was never good, still isn't and most likely never will be.

Hamill - He should of retired himself already. I love the guy as a footballer BUT CLEARLY he won't cut it again at the top level.

Brooks - no.

Mcqualter - He should be getting a senior game by now, if hes not cutting it by now, then why persist?
 

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Hopefully.
Player's like attard, jones, raph clarke, gilbert...their all 3rd string players, and are getting us no where. Constantly, week after week, we have more errors than other teams, crucial errors inside 50, costing us goals.
These players are the main cause of these errors.
Gilbert ?

What is he, 19 ?

He'll play more than 200 games for the club. Give the boy a break.
 

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Gilbert is a star. Birss should be delisted. Keep Fiora, I've never understood those that want him gone, if nothing else we need the speed. Get rid of Rix. Ferguson not good enough at this level. McQualter alright but too small to be effective at this level. Make hard decisions on whether Gwilt and Sweeney are likely to improve. Might disagree with a few, but keep Vossy. Plays forward or back. Thompson is done. Gehrig is past his best, but as we saw tonight, a good midfield can make anyone look good (Q. Lynch). I blame the midfield when Gehrig isn't firing.
 

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Gehrig is past his best, but as we saw tonight, a good midfield can make anyone look good (Q. Lynch). I blame the midfield when Gehrig isn't firing.
I know it's your board but surely tonight would be a case of credit where credit is due for both Lynch and Glass.
 

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There has been few cases as bad as Quentin Lynch for average players being made to look better than they are by a good team, and I'm talking about his whole career, not just tonight. Glass went alright though.
 

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meh, such is what the big Q cops every week from people who don't watch him play.
He was fantastic tonight and I think most of our supporters would acknowledge that but I guess we're more focused on why he was given so much time and space and unfortunately Goose has to take the responsibility for that.

Max would have been a perfect match up for him with his closing speed but both teams had players out so we can't make any excuses.
 

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While everyone is entitled to their opinion you really do have to wonder why the names of Gilbert and Goddard appear in this thread.
 

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While everyone is entitled to their opinion you really do have to wonder why the names of Gilbert and Goddard appear in this thread.
Because some people need a good look at themselves ...

Gilbert has been a revelation this season. Providing us with run and dash from half back. A role that Raph Clarke was supposed to deliver but never did.

Ive been a Goodard detractor for a while, but this season he was fantastic. He really came of age and was developing into a cealr winner in the back half. Some posters have verey short memories.
 

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I know he's young, and he's got so called 'potential'. But he's small, he can't kick , and just like the clarke problems he's a downfall at his decision making.
Oh and he's going to be 21 soon.
He had his 21st birthday six days ago - that statement is at least close to the truth.

I certainly cannot agree that "he can't kick" - he had one bad kick into the 50 in the third quarter after a sprint of about 100m, yes, but otherwise I would consider him one of the better kickers in the team !

The way he kept Judd (albeit certainly not at his best) under control and provided a few runs forward was imo quite exciting ! I certainly feel more relaxed when he carries the ball in defence than with a few others in the backline !

Oh and - he is 194cm tall !

He will be a superstar in less than three years !
 

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I know he's young, and he's got so called 'potential'. But he's small, he can't kick , and just like the clarke problems he's a downfall at his decision making.
Oh and he's going to be 21 soon.
Wow, your harsh ..

He's tall but lean. He has time to add bulk to his fram (take Goodard as an example)

His kicking let's him down when he is running a full pelt. He had a couple of clangers last night when running at top speed through the middle, trying to create.

Amazing how is kicking has never been mentioned before as a weakness from anyone...
 

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I was at last night's game (had a great seat next to the Eagles bench too) - I was F'ing furious at a couple of our players... and it only took a couple of players to F' up our night... you're only as strong as your weakest players, and by christ did I see a couple running out there for the Saints last night.. Such a shame because watching players like Lenny, Roo, Kosi, Dal and Joey bust a gut just makes you embarrassed that there are lazy, sodden, pathetic players running out there.. and by christ did Raph Clarke cop my full brunt... he is f*CKING USELESS!!! I could swallow it easier if he at least looked like he was trying and gave two s*its.. but he DOESNT!! People might go 'oh... he might look 'laconic' but he is trying...' BS!! The guy only get's a game because.... because.... hmmmm... I would say our list isn't strong enough. I could NOT see his get a game in any other club in the AFL.. not even Richmond.. he hasn't got the football smarts, intensity and reflexes to make it.. The game's going at a 100miles an hour and this kid just lopes, hangs onto the ball 3-4 seconds too late and sure as s*hit does NOT have a penetrating kick... its a goddam 9 iron!!

When the EAgles took it up to us in the 3rd quarter we melted, wilted, froze... and that's a great shame because I honestly thought our boys could stand up when the heat was on... 28 points up mid-way through the second quarter and your season is on the line.. I don't give a tinkers cuss who the opposition is.. you DO NOT surrender that sort of lead on your HOME GROUND.. where's the ferocity??? Where's that one person who needed to say 'NO, this game is ours!" - I thought Kosi was going to be that one in the end... nearly came off.. pity.. no.. we need a couple more young players of the ilk of Heath Black, Steven Powell and Aaron Hamill.. I couple of lads who HAVE talent and hard bodies to boot!!

We'll beat the Tigers I'm hoping next week... but 'hope' is something that constantly gets quashed time and time again by this Sainter....
 
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Wow, your harsh ..

He's tall but lean. He has time to add bulk to his fram (take Goodard as an example)

His kicking let's him down when he is running a full pelt. He had a couple of clangers last night when running at top speed through the middle, trying to create.

Amazing how is kicking has never been mentioned before as a weakness from anyone...
Yes he is lean, that's my point, not that he's short. And its well and good to say he can add to his frame, but at the moment we really have WAY too many players of his size. Whether your sprinting or not, good players don't have as many bad kicks as he did.
 

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Yes he is lean, that's my point, not that he's short. And its well and good to say he can add to his frame, but at the moment we really have WAY too many players of his size. Whether your sprinting or not, good players don't have as many bad kicks as he did.
Is he constantly knocked off the ball because he is skinny? Do all of his tackles just slip away? Does he always get caught taking the opposition on because he doesn't have enough bulk?

NO. He is easily the best tackler in our side and he is the only player capable of consistently breaking through tackles. His kicking doesn't always come off beautifully, but he is more reliable than half the players in our team.

Don't forget that Gilbert has only been playing Aussie Rules for about 5 years. Most other players have played an extra 200 games of footy. Gilbo is playing very good footy now and still has lots of improvement left in him.
 

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Okay, the jigs up... you guys bagging Gilbert... you're just trolling for the heck of it aren't you? Yes, yes, you're very funny, it was a good gag.

Since you can't POSSIBLY be serious, but MUST be joking, you probably know as well as I do that Gilbert is a brilliant prospect. And you must know, like any Saints fan with a brain, that his tackling, his breaking of tackles, his dodging of opponents, his run out of half-back are all just, well, inspiring with the occassional burst of the freakish.

Hey, here's an idea for another gag! Go start a thread about why we need to get rid of Lenny, because he's old or stupid or something... I'm not as good at making up ridiculous statements as you are, so I'll leave you to work out the finer edges...
 

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90% of you people on here have **** all of an idea! Raymond-Gone, Thompson-Retire, Harves-Retire. The rest are up in the air. There are more that will get the chop or retire, but we can't speculate at this time about those ones. Harves, I would love to see go round again, but after this injury and his form slump since the Richmond game I would seriously doubt whether he would continue on. McQualter should get the axe, but he is contracted so it may be said he is required, although I don't know why. We have very little duds, but we have a drop-off of players from our first 22 to the fringe players. Sydney have a very even mix and so do Geelong but, the fact remains, we have a certain gutter region from our first choice side to our fringe players. This is an area we need to address and Ross should go about doing this before you idiots (in general) call for the heads of Gilbert, Sweeney and the like.:thumbsdown:
 
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