Players that didnt live up to their hype?

[boncer34]

Is there a worse 200 gamer?

Anthony Rocca

 

[DangerSloane]

Goddard - 300+ games
Cooney - Brownlow
Rayner - 2 flags (back to back)

Murphy - ???
Sam Walsh ????

Flags don't define how good a player is or was, at all.

 

[boncer34]

Flags don't define how good a player is or was, at all.

Especially when your contribution to all your grand finals is a sub 13 disposal average and sub 1 goal a game.

I like Rayner and think he's a tick, but Brisbane win those flags with or without him.

 

[Broski]

Is there a worse 200 gamer?

The problem with Rohan was that he had all of the physical tools to become a very good player in the current game, but apart from a few teasing moments, he was incredibly underwhelming.

 

[Gollum]

Especially when your contribution to all your grand finals is a sub 13 disposal average and sub 1 goal a game.

I like Rayner and think he's a tick, but Brisbane win those flags with or without him.

Do they win the prelim against the cats in 24 without him? A player's contribution to a flag is more than just how they perform on the day

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

Rayners a gun. He can turn a game. Great grand final.

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

Scott Gooch. Fremantles saviour. Didn't play a single game.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Pretty much any key forward that has had more than 7 seasons but isnt regularly impacting the game

 

[James Colorado]

Do they win the prelim against the cats in 24 without him? A player's contribution to a flag is more than just how they perform on the day

100%.

And for all the knocks on him, you can make the same case for Rohan in the 2022 QF against the Pies. Played the game of his life, and got his team a week off, which may very well have helped with freshness in the PF and GF.

 

[Sttew]

Hawkins had already impressed the week before.

I meant Joel Selwood. My bad. I knew someone came in and impressed

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

David Leets.

 

[Chip Scab1]

Alan Ezard

Lol a poor man's Darren Bewick from memory.

 

[sherb]

Five flags in a row with Sturt.

Yep, I know that. But he came to Melbourne with quite the reputation and, as a result, quite the transfer fee request as well.

He wasn't a complete failure with the Demons, but he certainly didn't live up to the hype whilst there.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Headless why have you led me to the Melbourne board again?

 

[Chip Scab1]

Figjam I want out Brisbane I want to win flags with collingwood, got a norm Smith voted on at 3/4 time and shared a 3 way sympathy vote brownlow .

Fig also said yes to Norf before turn-coating to the Pies, costing himself 2, probably more flags (maybe 94,97,98 with him kicking to Carey).

Made millions though, good for him.

Flags don't define how good a player is or was, at all.

They kinda do if you play well in GFs though. Stuey Dew is your perfect example of this. Parlayed 15 mins of utter brilliance into 20 years at $500k+ pa. No wonder he's a little chubby.

 

[bungalow_bill]

Forgot about Schache what a fizzer he was.

 

[DangerSloane]

Fig also said yes to Norf before turn-coating to the Pies, costing himself 2, probably more flags (maybe 94,97,98 with him kicking to Carey).

Made millions though, good for him.


They kinda do if you play well in GFs though. Stuey Dew is your perfect example of this. Parlayed 15 mins of utter brilliance into 20 years at $500k+ pa. No wonder he's a little chubby.

Yeh nah.
For example Nathan Buckley was a levels better footballer than Shaun Hart. Both have 1 Norm, and Hart has multiple flags.

It has zero bearing. Its a team game, teams have success, others don't.

Tom Boyd has a flag, Nick Riewoldt doesnt. Regardless of Grand Final performances, nothing changes who was the better player.

 

[Chip Scab1]

Yeh nah.
For example Nathan Buckley was a levels better footballer than Shaun Hart. Both have 1 Norm, and Hart has multiple flags.

It has zero bearing. Its a team game, teams have success, others don't.

Tom Boyd has a flag, Nick Riewoldt doesnt. Regardless of Grand Final performances, nothing changes who was the better player.

Disagree. That's not the debate.

 

[DangerSloane]

Disagree. That's not the debate.

The debate is flags have no influence on the quality of a player during or post career.

Its just a plain out and out fact.

Dew had a great 15 minutes, fantastic, but did that make him an overall better player, no.

 

[Chip Scab1]

The debate is flags have no influence on the quality of a player during or post career.

Its just a plain out and out fact.

Dew had a great 15 minutes, fantastic, but did that make him an overall better player, no.

Ok agree. Still remember Andrew McLeod because of what he did in 1997&1998, not really anything else. Sorry if I framed it wrong.

 

[MisterB]

.looked like a tramp in hi Brisbane years

He always looked like an unmade bed.

 

[DangerSloane]

Ok agree. Still remember Andrew McLeod because of what he did in 1997&1998, not really anything else. Sorry if I framed it wrong.

But Mcleod was a top player in the league for good on a decade.
Should've won a brownlow if not for being robbed of votes in a clear BOG performance.

If you only think of him from Grand Finals then thats on you for being a casual.

 

[craffles]

Alex Rance. Basically Nick Maxwell

Nick Maxwell

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42

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193cm

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93kg

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4.6

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3.4

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D

14.0

4star

K

8.4

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HB

5.6

4star

M

4.8

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3.0

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in a tigers jumper guarding grass but spoken about like he was SOS.

 

[Chip Scab1]

But Mcleod was a top player in the league for good on a decade.
Should've won a brownlow if not for being robbed of votes in a clear BOG performance.

If you only think of him from Grand Finals then thats on you for being a casual.

I don't watch Footy unless my team is playing. No interest.

 

[Hamingja]

The problem with Rohan was that he had all of the physical tools to become a very good player in the current game, but apart from a few teasing moments, he was incredibly underwhelming.

On paper he had the physical tools to be Patrick Dangerfield. That's why he went in the top 10 of the draft. So he was underwhelming for a top 10 pick but he was a good role player at Geelong. If he come through the rookie draft people would not give him anywhere near the same level of stick and from Geelong's perspective we did pick him up for a packet of chips.