Players who have actually got better in their early 30s

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Shadow89

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Feb 20, 2018
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Surprised David Mundy hasn't been mentioned yet, he's arguably been playing some of his best footy the last few years. He's the best veteran in the comp still going.
Ablett probably pips him I reckon, given he made the AA squad last year and was stiff to not make the 22. Mundy is still a hell of a player though. Like a fine wine, and reliable as ever
 

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Ron The Bear

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Jul 4, 2006
33,143
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First b&f after 30

PlayerClubYearAge
Harbrow, JarrodG.C.201830y38d
Westhoff, JustinP.A.201831y327d
Scotland, HeathCarl201232y43d
Richardson, MatthewRich200732y166d
Lade, BrendonP.A.200630y54d
McKay, AndrewCarl200333y48d
Wanganeen, GavinP.A.200330y94d
Salmon, PaulHaw199631y231d
Mickan, MarkAdel199130y214d
Foster, PeterW.B.199030y91d
Clayton, ScottFitz199030y292d
Alexander, RonFitz198130y276d
Fletcher, KenEss197830y224d
Jesaulenko, AlexCarl197530y42d
Rantall, JohnN.M.197430y293d
Dugdale, JohnN.M.196832y176d
Mann, NeilColl195430y2d
Grieve, OllieCarl195231y312d
McCorkell, JockN.M.195234y59d
Chanter, VicFitz195130y218d
Lock, WallyMelb194730y220d
Kyne, PhonseColl194630y334d
Mahon, GeoffGeel194631y129d
Torney, HughEss194030y312d
Adamson, JimN.M.194035y30d
Gill, FrankCarl193930y266d
Coventry, GordonColl193331y342d
Carman, SydEss193230y263d
Utting, ErnHaw192931y304d
Russ, BillW.B.192930y56d
Beckton, NormEss192830y120d
Maher, FrankEss192731y353d
Jenkin, HorrieFitz192633y209d
McCarter, BillyGeel192132y336d
Young, HenryGeel190532y114d
Rankin, TeddyGeel190331y178d
 

Ron The Bear

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Brownlow votes per game before and after 30, minimum 50 games each

This is necessarily a bit rough. Votes before 1931 x 3.6, votes 1976-77 x 0.5

Figures grouped by whole seasons as no individual game voting available before 1984, as follows:
EG = eligible games for Brownlow - no finals, carnival rounds
<30 = includes seasons where age at last eligible game for season <30
30+ = includes seasons where age at last eligible game for season 30+

PlayerClubsCareerEG <30Vts <30Avg <30EG 30+Vts 30+Avg 30+Diff
Higgins, ShaunWB,NM2006-202017234
0.20​
5433
0.61​
+0.41
Viney, ToddMe1987-199914619
0.13​
7036
0.51​
+0.38
Franklin, LanceHa,Sy2005-2019226129
0.57​
5041
0.82​
+0.25
Waite, JarradCa,NM2003-201815320
0.13​
8532
0.38​
+0.25
West, ScottWB1993-2008244124
0.51​
6851
0.75​
+0.24
Cox, DeanWC2001-201419138
0.20​
8333
0.40​
+0.20
Johnson, SteveGe,GWS2002-201717762
0.35​
9049
0.54​
+0.19
Round, BarryWB,Sy1969-198520652
0.25​
11350
0.44​
+0.19
Crisp, MickeyCa1931-194110723
0.21​
6024
0.40​
+0.19
Salmon, PaulEs,Ha,Es1983-200218553
0.29​
12156
0.46​
+0.18
Simpson, AdamNM1995-200920642
0.20​
7930
0.38​
+0.18
Cloke, DavidRi,Co,Ri1974-199120466
0.32​
11155
0.50​
+0.17
O'Keefe, RyanSy2000-201419348
0.25​
6929
0.42​
+0.17
Stevens, AnthonyNM1989-200420036
0.18​
7426
0.35​
+0.17
Johnson, BradWB1994-201024443
0.18​
9934
0.34​
+0.17
Dugdale, JohnNM1955-197015911
0.07​
7217
0.24​
+0.17
Priddis, MattWC2006-2017166101
0.61​
6248
0.77​
+0.17
Bradley, CraigCa1986-200216955
0.33​
18289
0.49​
+0.16
Edwards, TysonAd1995-201020541
0.20​
9434
0.36​
+0.16
Bolger, MartinRi1930-1939989
0.09​
6416
0.25​
+0.16
Hayes, LennySt1999-201420384
0.41​
7945
0.57​
+0.16
Hampshire, IanGe,WB1968-198213519.5
0.14​
8124
0.30​
+0.15
Langford, ChrisHa1983-199719518
0.09​
8320
0.24​
+0.15
Bence, RoySy,St1922-1933860
0.00​
548
0.15​
+0.15
Enright, CoreyGe2001-201620413
0.06​
10421
0.20​
+0.14
Nankervis, Ian J.Ge1967-198319331.5
0.16​
11534
0.30​
+0.13
Kirk, BrettSy1999-201013542
0.31​
8839
0.44​
+0.13
Jones, PeterCa1966-197916431.5
0.19​
5417.5
0.32​
+0.13
Hird, JamesEs1992-200715275
0.49​
8150
0.62​
+0.12
Hart, DavidWC1987-19971016
0.06​
6612
0.18​
+0.12
Goodwin, SimonAd1997-201017545
0.26​
7729
0.38​
+0.12
Hickey, RegGe1926-194016066.6
0.42​
6635
0.53​
+0.11
Richardson, MatthewRi1993-200919189
0.47​
8851
0.58​
+0.11
McKay, AndrewCa1993-200314022
0.16​
8523
0.27​
+0.11
Gibson, JoshNM,Ha2006-201713413
0.10​
6814
0.21​
+0.11
Roberts, MarkSy,Br,NM1985-19991193
0.03​
699
0.13​
+0.11
Ablett senior, GaryHa,Ge1982-199614155
0.39​
9145
0.49​
+0.10
Hawkins, TomGe2007-202019227
0.14​
5914
0.24​
+0.10
McDonald, James I.Me,GWS1997-20121689
0.05​
8713
0.15​
+0.10
Bolton, JudeSy1999-201321759
0.27​
8230
0.37​
+0.09
Mundy, DavidFr2005-202019851
0.26​
12042
0.35​
+0.09
Foster, PeterFi,WB1980-199310326
0.25​
6422
0.34​
+0.09
Kyne, PhonseCo1934-195012517
0.14​
7517
0.23​
+0.09
Cordner, DenisMe1943-19568455
0.65​
5138
0.75​
+0.09
Duperouzel, BruceSt,WB1974-1984849.5
0.11​
7615
0.20​
+0.08
Everitt, PeterSt,Ha,Sy1993-200819133
0.17​
9424
0.26​
+0.08
Jones, WarrenCa,St1978-1988664
0.06​
507
0.14​
+0.08
Lade, BrendonPA1997-200913829
0.21​
8324
0.29​
+0.08
Bentley, PercyRi1925-194017011.2
0.07​
649
0.14​
+0.07
Williams, GregGe,Sy,Ca1984-1997173108
0.62​
6646
0.70​
+0.07
Montgomery, BrettWB,PA,WB1997-200711912
0.10​
6411
0.17​
+0.07
Woods, TonyFi,Co,Ha1989-20021121
0.01​
544
0.07​
+0.07
Couch, PaulGe1985-199717368
0.39​
6831
0.46​
+0.06
Hurn, ShannonWC2006-202021020
0.10​
579
0.16​
+0.06
Richards, TedEs,Sy2002-20161674
0.02​
726
0.08​
+0.06
Shaw, TonyCo1978-199420440
0.20​
8722
0.25​
+0.06
Martin, StefanMe,Br2008-202011411
0.10​
7211
0.15​
+0.06
Carter, RodFi,Sy1974-19901753
0.02​
1108
0.07​
+0.06
Adamson, JimNM1929-1941689.6
0.14​
10821
0.19​
+0.05
Beckton, NormEs1921-19306610.8
0.16​
5010.8
0.22​
+0.05
Dempster, SeanSy,St2005-20161462
0.01​
624
0.06​
+0.05
Doughty, MichaelAd2000-20121333
0.02​
846
0.07​
+0.05
Gale, BrendonRi1990-200116021
0.13​
7814
0.18​
+0.05
Cornes, KanePA2001-201523149
0.21​
5013
0.26​
+0.05
McCorkell, JockNM1940-1953584
0.07​
8610
0.12​
+0.05
Scotland, HeathCo,Ca1999-201416937
0.22​
8723
0.26​
+0.05
Coventry, GordonCo1920-193713321
0.16​
9519
0.20​
+0.04
Mitchell, SamHa,WC2002-2017209154
0.74​
9473
0.78​
+0.04
Bartlett, KevinRi1965-198322078
0.35​
14958.5
0.39​
+0.04
Glass, DarrenWC2000-20141857
0.04​
695
0.07​
+0.03
Westhoff, JustinPA2007-202019519
0.10​
7610
0.13​
+0.03
Quinlan, BernieWB,Fi1969-198622674.5
0.33​
12445
0.36​
+0.03
Lockett, TonySt,Sy1983-200219992
0.46​
7336
0.49​
+0.03
Dunkley, AndrewSy1992-200211713
0.11​
9213
0.14​
+0.03
Hutchison, BillEs1942-1957119102
0.86​
7970
0.89​
+0.03
Wanganeen, GavinEs,PA1991-200621684
0.39​
6025
0.42​
+0.03
Silvagni, SergioCa1958-197114733
0.22​
6416
0.25​
+0.03
Hudson, BenAd,WB,Br,Co2004-2013740
0.00​
842
0.02​
+0.02
Milne, StephenSt2001-201317724
0.14​
8213
0.16​
+0.02
Betts, EddieCa,Ad,Ca2005-202024331
0.13​
7511
0.15​
+0.02
Doull, BruceCa1969-198620952
0.25​
11230
0.27​
+0.02
Wakelin, ShaneSt,Co1994-20081722
0.01​
682
0.03​
+0.02
Williams, PaulCo,Sy1991-200622968
0.30​
6721
0.31​
+0.02
Grundy, HeathSy2006-20191753
0.02​
622
0.03​
+0.02
Schimmelbusch, WayneNM1973-198720247
0.23​
6917
0.25​
+0.01
Brogan, DeanPA,GWS2001-201311011
0.10​
718
0.11​
+0.01
Breen, BarrySt1965-198220230
0.15​
7512
0.16​
+0.01
Cresswell, DarynSy1992-200317846
0.26​
5615
0.27​
+0.01
Olliver, ArthurWB1935-195012137
0.31​
6721
0.31​
+0.01
Titus, JackRi1926-194316435
0.21​
6815
0.22​
+0.01
Scott, Don W.Ha1967-198120117.5
0.09​
767
0.09​
+0.01

* started career in one vote per game era
 
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PhatBoy

Brownlow Medallist
May 5, 2016
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23,034
AFL Club
Geelong
Has Hawkins really improved that much or is there just a lack of strong experienced key forwards elsewhere to compare him to? Not shitting on Hawkins btw, he's always been a thorn in our side when Reg Grundy hasn't been there to play on him, but a few years ago he was still competing with the likes of peak Franklin, Kennedy, and Walker. Then you still had the likes of Nick Riewoldt around still producing quality.
fair points, what he’s been doing lately goal wise he’s been doing for basically a decade.

i think the rest of his game has become incrementally better though
 

Wojcinski

Brownlow Medallist
Aug 14, 2011
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Ablett probably pips him I reckon, given he made the AA squad last year and was stiff to not make the 22. Mundy is still a hell of a player though. Like a fine wine, and reliable as ever
I wouldnt say Ablett Jr is better in his 30s than in his 20s though. His 2007-13 seasons were phenomenal. He was 23-29 in those seasons
 

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Sttew

Brownlow Medallist
Oct 28, 2006
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Has Hawkins really improved that much or is there just a lack of strong experienced key forwards elsewhere to compare him to? Not shitting on Hawkins btw, he's always been a thorn in our side when Reg Grundy hasn't been there to play on him, but a few years ago he was still competing with the likes of peak Franklin, Kennedy, and Walker. Then you still had the likes of Nick Riewoldt around still producing quality.
Hawkins kicking has improved immensely
 

Coaster2012

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Jul 10, 2012
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Fighters begin to peak in their 30s. It's really when the body is peaking with physical strength but endurance starts to dip too. Hence why I think full forwards and defenders can really find their peak in their 30s but mids not so much. I.e Hawkins, Hurn.
 

RichLeMonde

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Sep 26, 2019
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Fighters begin to peak in their 30s. It's really when the body is peaking with physical strength but endurance starts to dip too.
I think it’s quite variable - it’s reaction times that start to dip at 30, and even tiny changes in that can make a huge difference to a fighter. Depends on how much damage they’ve taken too. Quite a few guys’ chins are shot by their mid 30s
 

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