List Mgmt. Playing List Contract Status

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SYDNEY SWANS CONTRACT STATUS (Updated 17-SEP-2021)

36 players Senior Listed and 4 players Rookie Listed (3 Cat A players and 1 Cat B players)


The minimum list size for each club will be 37, which can be made up of as little as 36 senior listed players and one rookie.

To reach 44, clubs can carry 36-38 senior listed players, four-to-six Category A rookies, and two Category B rookies.


Currently, 28 Senior Listed players and 2 rookie listed player are re-signed for 2022 and beyond.

Contract Expires - 2021:
James Bell
Ryan Clarke
Jordan Dawson - TRADE REQUESTED
George Hewett - Restricted Free Agent
Barry O'Connor (Cat B Rookie - International)
Colin O'Riordan
Sam Reid
Ben Ronke
Callum Sinclair
Sam Wicks (Cat A Rookie - 1st Year)

Contract Expires - 2022:
Braeden Campbell
Harry Cunningham
Oliver Florent
Robbie Fox (Cat A Rookie 2nd Year)
Lance Franklin
William Gould
Errol Gulden
Issac Heeney
Josh Kennedy
Jake Lloyd
Lachlan McAndrew (Cat A Rookie 2nd Year)
Logan McDonald
Justin McInerney
Sam Naismith
Dane Rampe
Lewis Taylor

Contract Expires - 2023:
Joel Amartey
Tom Hickey
Tom McCartin
Hayden McLean
Lewis Melican
Callum Mills
Tom Papley
Marc Sheather
Dylan Stephens
Chad Warner
John Longmire (Senior Coach)

Contract Expires - 2024:
Nick Blakey
Will Hayward
James Rowbottom

Contract Expires - 2025:
Luke Parker
 
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Following on from AG great thread which can be read in full here

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/contract-status.929073/

Will update contract statuses when they occur, plus include rules regarding List's, Rookie Lists, the salary cap and the upcoming CBA


With the change of List Sizes and the Salary Cap for the remainder of the CBA, most the current information below is out of date and will be updated when available
 
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List Rules

The minimum list size for each club will be 37, which can be made up by as little as 36 senior listed players and one rookie.

To reach 44, clubs can carry 36-38 senior listed players, four-to-six Category A rookies and two Category B rookies.

For the 2021 Season Both Cat A and Cat B Rookies can be selected for Senior matches without needing to be promoted to the Senior List
 
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14. Long Term Injury List Rules 2017-2022

(a) Each AFL Club may apply to the AFL General Counsel to transfer a Player suffering a long term injury from its Primary List to its Long Term Injury List. A long term injury means an injury or illness suffered by a Player which, in the opinion of the AFL Medical Director, after consultation with the AFL Club Medical Officer, will prevent or is likely to prevent a Player, having due regard to his health and safety, from participating in a Match for a period of not less than six weeks from 2018 onwards from the date the injury or illness is diagnosed.
(b) A Player’s name may only be added to the Long Term Injury List with the Player’s consent and with the approval of the AFL General Counsel.
(c) An injured Player who is transferred to an AFL Club’s Long Term Injury List is ineligible to play in the AFL Competition or in any other competition for the period:
  1. the Player’s name is on the AFL Club’s Long Term Injury List; or
  2. for the 2018 AFL Season and each subsequent AFL Season, of six weeks, whichever is greater. The period shall commence from the day on which the AFL General Counsel gives his approval for the injured Player to transfer to the AFL Club’s Long Term Injury List.
(d) An AFL Club is unable to transfer an injured Player to its Long Term Injury List after 2.00pm on Thursday following the Preliminary Final (or any such later round as determined by the General Counsel) of the AFL Premiership Season in each year.
(e) For the period a Player remains on the Long Term Injury List of an AFL Club, that AFL Club may apply to the AFL General Counsel for permission to temporarily promote a Rookie to its Primary List and subject to item 4(g) of Schedule C, any payments made to the Rookie for the period that the Rookie remains on the Primary List as a replacement for a Player on the Long Term Injury List, shall be excluded from the Total Player Payments of the AFL Club.
(f) Prior to 31 October each year, each AFL Club must determine whether a Player on the Long Term Injury List is to be included in the AFL Club’s Primary List for the following AFL Season.
(g) Football Payments made to a Player on the Long Term Injury List shall be included in calculating the Total Player Payments for the AFL Club.
(h) When an AFL Club transfers a Player from the Long Term Injury List back to the Primary List (“the date of transfer”) and the Rookie who was temporarily promoted to the Primary List in accordance with clause 14(e) in respect of that Player remains on the Primary List after the date of transfer:
  1. the Rookie shall be taken into account in calculating the number of Players on the Primary List for so long as the name of the Rookie remains on the Primary List after the date of transfer; and
  2. the Football Payments made to the Rookie in respect of the period his name remains on the Primary List after the date of transfer shall be taken into account in calculating the Total Player Payments of that AFL Club.
(i) The provisions of clause 14(h) shall not apply to circumstances where the name of the Rookie remains on the Primary List after the date of transfer for the purpose of replacing another Player whose name is on the Long Term Injury List.
(j) On and from 1 November 2017, “Rookie” as used in this clause shall be read as “Category B Rookie”

Player List and Rookie List Rules 2017-2022

15. Player Lists – 2017
(a) Each AFL Club shall maintain minimum and maximum numbers of Players on their Lists during the 2017 AFL Season.
(b) The maximum number of Players on the Club’s Primary List shall be 40.
(c) The minimum number of Players on the Club’s Primary List shall be 38.
(d) The number of Players referred to in clause 15(b) and 15(c) shall be Players included on the AFL Club’s Primary List and shall be in addition to the allowable number of Rookies, including nominated Rookies, as defined in the Rules. The maximum number of Rookies and Players on the Primary List shall be as follows:

Primary List Size - 38 (Minimum) - 39 - 40 (Maximum)
Category A Rookies - 6 - 5 - 4
Category B Rookies - 3 - 3 - 3

Total Rookies Maximum- 9 (Maximum) - 8 - 7 (Minimum)
TOTAL - 47 - 47 - 47

(e) Category B Rookies include former International Scholarship players with that Club, Academy players (only with respect to Sydney Swans, Brisbane Lions, Gold Coast Suns and GWS Giants), Next Generation Academy Players, International Rookies (including 1 x Irish), Non-Registered or not Played for 3 Years, Sydney and Queensland Based Clubs and Alternate Talent Players.
(f) A Club may list up to six Category A Rookies in proportion to the size of their Primary List and if they have the maximum number of Category A Rookies, a Club may list up to three Category B Rookies.
(g) A Club may list more than three Category B Rookies across all groups noted above, but each additional player will be designated as a Category A Rookie and that Club must forfeit its last available selection at the next Rookie Draft meeting.
(h) An AFL Club is eligible to nominate a Rookie Player as being eligible for senior selection by the date and time nominated by the General Counsel which date shall be at the conclusion of the Pre-Season Competition, and if it otherwise satisfies the requirements of this clause 15 as follows:

  1. if it has 38 Players on its Primary List, it may nominate up to two (2) Nominated Rookies;
  2. if it has 39 Players on its Primary List, it may nominate one (1) Nominated Rookie; as provided under the AFL Rules.
(i) An AFL Club is eligible to nominate a further Rookie Player as being eligible for senior selection mid-season in accordance with the AFL Rules and if it otherwise satisfies the requirements of this clause 15.
(j) The right of an AFL Club to nominate a Rookie Player under clause 15(h) and 15(i) is subject to the AFL Club demonstrating to the satisfaction of the Investigations Manager that it can accommodate within its Total Player Payments the Football Payments which must be paid to the Rookie Player as prescribed by Schedule B.
(k) One half of the Football Payments in respect of a Rookie Player nominated under clause 15(h) shall be excluded from the relevant AFL Club’s Total Player Payments.
(l) Any amount paid to a Rookie Player nominated under clause 15(i) in excess of the base payment payable to a 1st year, third round draft choice selection shall be included in the relevant AFL Club’s Total Player Payments.
(m) This clause 15 shall cease to apply from 1 November 2017.

Player Lists – 2018 - 2022
(a) Each AFL Club shall maintain their Lists during the Term as follows:

  1. (i) The number of Players on the Club’s Primary List shall be not more than 40 and not less than 38;
  2. (ii) The number of Players on the Club’s Category A Rookie List shall be not more than 6 provided that a Club must not have more than 44 Players on their Primary List and Category A Rookie List at any time;
  3. (iii) The number of Players on the Club’s Category B Rookie List shall be not more than 3.
(b) Any amount paid to a Rookie Player in excess of the base payment payable to a 1st year, 41+ choice selection shall be included in the relevant AFL Club’s Total Player Payments. For the avoidance of doubt, the minimum base payment payable to a 1st year, 41+ choice selection shall be excluded in the relevant AFL Club’s Total Player Payments for each Rookie Player.
(c) Players included on a Category A Rookie List shall be eligible for selection in a Match from 1 November 2017 notwithstanding any contrary provision in this Agreement or the AFL Rules. Prior to 31 October 2017, AFL shall make all necessary amendments to the AFL Rules so that they shall provide for a Player on a Category A Rookie List to be eligible for selection in any Match played after 1 November 2017.
 
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CBA Details

Copy of the CBA: http://www.aflplayers.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/2017-2022-CBA.pdf

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...ive-bargaining-agreement-20170620-gwuvem.html

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-20/players-get-20-per-cent-pay-rise-in-new-cba

Player payments:

* Total player payments will increase by 20 per cent in 2017, to $12.45 million per club ($224m in total), with increases of 1.2%, 1.3%, 2%, 2%, 2% in years 2018-2022.
* Players receive 28 per cent of forecast defined football revenue.
* Players benefit from a review mechanism that captures a share of additional AFL and club revenue.
* Players are entitled to receive 28% of AFL revenues and 11.2% of club revenues above forecasts.
* Exclusions to the model includes bequests, donations, government grants, non-football revenues and AFLW revenue.
* The minimum rookie payment will increase to $71,500 in 2017, while the base payment for a first-round draft pick will rise to $88,200 in 2017.

Education, Development, Wellbeing and Retirement:

* An extra $6 million of funding into player retirement accounts.
* Increased funding to $13 million for player development.
* Revamped injury payments model, guaranteed funding of $250,000 annually for concussion research.
* Improved travel and accommodation conditions.
* Past players to benefit from the establishment of a Lifetime Health Care program.
* Category-A rookie-listed players will be eligible to play senior football from 2018.

Free Agency:

* Players no longer need to be restricted free agents before becoming unrestricted.
* Free agency qualification periods remain as is - 8 years restricted (if in top 25% of paid players at club); 10 years unrestricted.

Also, at least one additional free agency provision to be adopted by October 2017, from:

* Free agency for life.
* Free agency portability.
* Restricted free agency at 4 years for any players under median salary.
* Such other change proposed by AFL and agreed by AFLPA.

[Edit:] Free agency portability was the additional provision selected in time for the 2019 Free Agency Period

Other:

* Improved travel, accommodation and leave conditions.
* Eight grand final tickets for participating players.
* Emergency player payments.
 
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Don't know about anyone else but I hope Dawson, Foote, Robinson and Marsh are all at the club for a long time. Really like the look of them, especially Robbo and Marsh, who were on the brink of best 22 after just a few games.
 

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Id say the following will be gone at the end of the year
Davis
Melican
T Richards
McGlynn
Hiscox
Derickx
Maybe Robinson

If im not mistaken we can then add 8 to the list if required? That is of course we let go of 6 players as I suggested.
 

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Id say the following will be gone at the end of the year
Davis
Melican
T Richards
McGlynn
Hiscox
Derickx
Maybe Robinson

If im not mistaken we can then add 8 to the list if required? That is of course we let go of 6 players as I suggested.
Robinson? He's midfield depth. As far as i'm concerned we need as many mids as possible even if they're running around in the NEAFL. We completely overlook our midfield but take out JPK, Parker, Hanners or even Jack and we aren't the same. With Mitchell possibly leaving, the onus will be on guys like Robinson, Foote, Hewett etc to potentially fill the void.
 

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Robinson? He's midfield depth. As far as i'm concerned we need as many mids as possible even if they're running around in the NEAFL. We completely overlook our midfield but take out JPK, Parker, Hanners or even Jack and we aren't the same. With Mitchell possibly leaving, the onus will be on guys like Robinson, Foote, Hewett etc to potentially fill the void.
I said maybe.... obviously you take out 4 of any sides best midfielders youre not going to be anywhere near the same...I can tell you Robinson ain't fixing that if for some reason jpk hanners parker and Jack were not playing.
 

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Doubt Davis will be delisted. He has talent and potential but might take some time getting there.

Robinson definitely not! He was in our best team til his injury.
Thars good news re Davis, I really liked him as a junior bit have not seen much of him in our ressies. Whats he been doing positional wise?
 

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He's literally played everwhere.

Was a midfield last year both inside and outside, pinch hit a bit in the ruck. Started in the forwards this year and but then went back, eseentially doing a swap with Xavier before his injury.
Almost exactly 12 months ago Aliir signed a one year extension based on not a hell of a lot and a lot of us were surprised. You think a one year extension for Davis along the same lines is the most likely scenario?
 

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I said maybe.... obviously you take out 4 of any sides best midfielders youre not going to be anywhere near the same...I can tell you Robinson ain't fixing that if for some reason jpk hanners parker and Jack were not playing.
One day he could though. I recall not being overly impressed by JPK but now he's a gun. I'd like to see some of our young mids backed to follow that path
 

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Yay Gaz. Has definitely benefited from a relatively clean run in the second half of the year
So much for those rumors he's off to geelong and we would trade him this year :rolleyes:
 

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That's great news to see the red flash resign. One of those players that makes watching the swans so enjoyable. I still think there's plenty of improvement to come for Gary if he can stay fit and get continuity. He looked very pleased to have resigned in the interview. Couldn't keep the smile off his face which is great to see. I've really noticed that the players seem to be enjoying playing together and the camaraderie appears to be very high. I think the injection of youth has added to that plus a few young fellas playing for the club they've always supported can't hurt.
 

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Doesn't seem that any contract negotiations have taken place with Towers. He has occasional glimpses of brilliance, very valuable speed. Worth keeping IMO. Perhaps the talks gave taken place and he wants to leave.
 

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