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List Mgmt. Playing List Contract Status

Discussion in 'Sydney' started by robbieando, Aug 17, 2016.

  1. exportchamp

    exportchamp Draftee

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    Sorry if Ive missed this chat in here but they keep repeating Hanners to St Kilda is done, I cant see how they get the deal done anyone else?
    Hanners & our first pick (approx 14/15/16)
    for St Kildas first pick (approx 4/5/6)
     

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  2. Chaisa

    Chaisa Norm Smith Medallist

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    They pay a lower trade price to take on his entire contract.
     
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  3. Horseswan2017

    Horseswan2017 Rookie

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    What’s Sinclair status , a few other clubs circling I hear, might be tough for him if naismith is back. Not traditionally a number 1 ruck cal. Horse loves a bang and crash

    Trade bait? He’d have some good currency, he has had a great year.

    Back to the Eagles maybe

    Thank god naismith signed. Be a shame to lose Cal though

    Thoughts
     
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  4. swansfan51

    swansfan51 Moderator

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    Jarrod Witts - picks 44 and 62
    Toby Nankervis - pick 46
    Zac Smith - picks 49 and 53
    Matthew Lobbe - pick 95

    Can't see him having much currency
     
  5. BloodySwan

    BloodySwan Premiership Player

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    Can't see the Swans letting him go. He means more to our club than any other club would be willing to offer for him
     
  6. The Swans Blog

    The Swans Blog Norm Smith Medallist

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    As far as out of contract players go, this is what I suspect will happen.

    Offered contracts:
    Maibaum, Robinson, Lloyd, Newman

    Delistings (excl rookies)
    Rose, Foote, Marsh, Towers, Fox

    If not offered extension, re-rookies in draft:
    Marsh, Maibaum, Bell, Brown

    Lose to trade/delisting:
    Newman

    Go hard in the draft for the second season running.
     
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  7. BruceFromBalnarring

    BruceFromBalnarring Premiership Player

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    Those others were on the outer. Sinclair has played all year.
     
  8. mtooler

    mtooler Premiership Player

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    Cats delistings started today, could see ours happen tomorrow.
     
  9. alex4445

    alex4445 Debutant

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    Wouldn't they wait till after the neafl gf?
     
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  10. RobbieK

    RobbieK Club Legend

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    Yes, I would be surprised to see any announcements made until all of the squad has played out their seasons.
     
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  11. mtooler

    mtooler Premiership Player

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    Sorry, forgot about NEAFL.
     
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  12. puke

    puke Club Legend

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    One of our biggest strengths has always been player retention. This year we are destined to lose Hanners, lloyd, Rohan and probably others.. Some are possibly initiated by club. There are whispers about Parker talking to Essendon even though contracted. There has also been rumours of discontent within the club. You wonder to what extent, if any, these things intersect. If true you also wonder to what extent the significant upheaval in coaching staff has been a catalyst. Should we be worried? I'll admit I'm nervous.
     
  13. RobbieK

    RobbieK Club Legend

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    Players come and go every year. Saying we have a "player retention" problem means that we are struggling to keep players that we really want to keep. Is that what is happening?

    I see nothing in the Hannebery or Rohan situations that suggests that we are doing anything other than willingly exploring our options to move on two players, one who is out of the best 22 and the other who has faded massively from his best output, to improve the list with fresh players and/or an improved draft position.

    With Lloyd it looks like we do want to keep him but may be out-priced by another club... but at the same time, we may not. Let's see how it goes. It seems he does want to stay with the club, he just wants to get the best deal for himself, as he is entitled and should be expected to do.

    The Parker story gets rehashed every year and is equally bogus every year.

    So... no, it doesn't look like a cataclysm. Looks like a bog standard off-season.
     
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  14. doona

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    May the delistings begin tomorrow.....
     
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    doona SMFC

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  16. Mick Oxlong

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    2 more years to Tom McCartin...only 8 more years to go!
     
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  17. Superstar swan

    Superstar swan Brownlow Medallist

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    Great news. Far exceeded my expectations this year. Didnt think he would get a game then when he did i thought hed play a few games without much influence and go back to neafl. More than held his spot and was our best contested mark this year,kicking needs alot of work but he definately showed enough.

    Actually surprised it wasnt longer than 2 years
     
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  18. TheMase

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    Kid probably backing himself to get a better contract towards the end of the Buddy deal ;)
     
  19. Number37

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    You're not following the script Mase....if Horse doesn't change the game plan in the next 2 years then Tommy will walk out with everybody else.
     
  20. Kapanis

    Kapanis Premium Gold

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    Hanners and Rohan show contracts mean sweet FA. What's to stop McCartin saying in one or two years he wants out for personal reasons when he's going to be developing into what we all hope he becomes.
     
  21. Number37

    Number37 Premium Platinum

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    The overwhelming majority of contracts are honoured.
    Sometimes shit happens.
     
  22. Tedeski

    Tedeski Brownlow Medallist

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    You are right. The landscape has changed but the best clubs with better list management will still be ahead of the curve & thus far, apart from AFL manufactured curve balls like the trade ban, we've proven we are about the best. I think by then Buddy may be close to done & Tommy will have 1.5M reasons to stay if he takes the comp by storm Kapanis. Also by then young Blakey will be his partner in crime up forward:).
     
  23. Kapanis

    Kapanis Premium Gold

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    I've got a feeling that will change over the medium to long term 37, the landscape is changing.
     
  24. Kapanis

    Kapanis Premium Gold

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    Can see that Ted and it's smart thinking of all sides, Precedents are being made though. I understand the Rohan situation and still have no idea re Hanners except for rumours re his personal life.
     
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  25. Number37

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    It probably will change but you have to look at it practically.

    If you breach a contract what can the other party do?
    Sue you for damages.
    There are no damages to an AFL club for player breach of contract.
    The club might get a $1 as nominal damages.
    The club might get an equitable remedy like an injunction that stops the player from playing with another club or forcing them to honour their contract.

    Given that football clubs are all about 'buy in' it makes no sense to force someone who doesn't want to 'buy in'.
    Forcing a player to 'buy in' would create a toxic environment.
     
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