List Mgmt. AFL Senior List Contract Status

[robbieando]

SYDNEY SWANS CONTRACT STATUS (Updated 10-APR-2024)

The minimum list size for each club will be 37, which can be made up of as little as 36 senior listed players and one rookie.

To reach 44, clubs can carry 36-38 senior listed players, four to six Category A rookies, and two Category B rookies.

List make up - 37 Senior Listed players, 5 Category A rookies and 2 Category B rookie.


Contract Expires - 2024:
Harry Arnold (Cat A Rookie 2nd Year)
Jack Buller (Cat A Rookie 2nd Year)
Harry Cunningham
William Edwards (Cat B Rookie 2nd Year)
Oliver Florent
Robbie Fox
Aaron Francis
Will Hayward
Indhi Kirk (Cat B Rookie 1st Year)
Jacob Konstanty
Jaiden Magor (Cat A Rookie 2nd Year)
Lachlan McAndrew (Cat A Rookie 3rd Year)
Logan McDonald
Lewis Melican
Caleb Mitchell
Sam Reid (Cat A Rookie 1st Year)
Cooper Vickery

Contract Expires - 2025:
Braeden Campbell
Caiden Cleary
Joel Hamling
Peter Ladhams

19

Peter Ladhams

Age

26

Ht

204cm

Wt

103kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

8.8

5star

CL

3.3

5star

HO

15.0

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

9.0

4star

HB

12.0

5star

CL

4.0

5star

HO

16.0

5star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

8.2

5star

CL

3.2

5star

HO

14.8

5star

Jake Lloyd
Luke Parker
Dane Rampe
Matthew Roberts
Angus Sheldrick
Patrick Snell
Chad Warner
Corey Warner
Sam Wicks
John Longmire (Senior Coach)

Contract Expires - 2026:
Taylor Adams
Joel Amartey
Will Green
James Jordon
Justin McInerney

Contract Expires- 2027:
Brodie Grundy
Tom McCartin
Hayden McLean

Contract Expires - 2028:
Errol Gulden
Issac Heeney
Tom Papley
James Rowbottom

Contract Expires - 2029:
Callum Mills

Contract Expires - 2031:
Nick Blakey

 

[Horseswan2017]

What’s Sinclair status , a few other clubs circling I hear, might be tough for him if naismith is back. Not traditionally a number 1 ruck cal. Horse loves a bang and crash

Trade bait? He’d have some good currency, he has had a great year.

Back to the Eagles maybe

Thank god naismith signed. Be a shame to lose Cal though

Thoughts

 

[swansfan51]

What’s Sinclair status , a few other clubs circling I hear, might be tough for him if naismith is back. Not traditionally a number 1 ruck cal. Horse loves a bang and crash

Trade bait? He’d have some good currency, he has had a great year.

Back to the Eagles maybe

Thank god naismith signed. Be a shame to lose Cal though

Thoughts

Jarrod Witts - picks 44 and 62
Toby Nankervis - pick 46
Zac Smith - picks 49 and 53
Matthew Lobbe - pick 95

Can't see him having much currency

 

[BloodySwan]

What’s Sinclair status , a few other clubs circling I hear, might be tough for him if naismith is back. Not traditionally a number 1 ruck cal. Horse loves a bang and crash

Trade bait? He’d have some good currency, he has had a great year.

Back to the Eagles maybe

Thank god naismith signed. Be a shame to lose Cal though

Thoughts

Can't see the Swans letting him go. He means more to our club than any other club would be willing to offer for him

 

[The Swans Blog]

As far as out of contract players go, this is what I suspect will happen.

Offered contracts:
Maibaum, Robinson, Lloyd, Newman

Delistings (excl rookies)
Rose, Foote, Marsh, Towers, Fox

If not offered extension, re-rookies in draft:
Marsh, Maibaum, Bell, Brown

Lose to trade/delisting:
Newman

Go hard in the draft for the second season running.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

Jarrod Witts - picks 44 and 62
Toby Nankervis - pick 46
Zac Smith - picks 49 and 53
Matthew Lobbe - pick 95

Can't see him having much currency

Those others were on the outer. Sinclair has played all year.

 

[mtooler]

Cats delistings started today, could see ours happen tomorrow.

 

[alex4445]

Cats delistings started today, could see ours happen tomorrow.

Wouldn't they wait till after the neafl gf?

 

[RobbieK]

Wouldn't they wait till after the neafl gf?

Yes, I would be surprised to see any announcements made until all of the squad has played out their seasons.

 

[mtooler]

Wouldn't they wait till after the neafl gf?

Sorry, forgot about NEAFL.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

One of our biggest strengths has always been player retention. This year we are destined to lose Hanners, lloyd, Rohan and probably others.. Some are possibly initiated by club. There are whispers about Parker talking to Essendon even though contracted. There has also been rumours of discontent within the club. You wonder to what extent, if any, these things intersect. If true you also wonder to what extent the significant upheaval in coaching staff has been a catalyst. Should we be worried? I'll admit I'm nervous.

 

[RobbieK]

One of our biggest strengths has always been player retention. This year we are destined to lose Hanners, lloyd, Rohan and probably others.. Some are possibly initiated by club. There are whispers about Parker talking to Essendon even though contracted. There has also been rumours of discontent within the club. You wonder to what extent, if any, these things intersect. If true you also wonder to what extent the significant upheaval in coaching staff has been a catalyst. Should we be worried? I'll admit I'm nervous.

Players come and go every year. Saying we have a "player retention" problem means that we are struggling to keep players that we really want to keep. Is that what is happening?

I see nothing in the Hannebery or Rohan situations that suggests that we are doing anything other than willingly exploring our options to move on two players, one who is out of the best 22 and the other who has faded massively from his best output, to improve the list with fresh players and/or an improved draft position.

With Lloyd it looks like we do want to keep him but may be out-priced by another club... but at the same time, we may not. Let's see how it goes. It seems he does want to stay with the club, he just wants to get the best deal for himself, as he is entitled and should be expected to do.

The Parker story gets rehashed every year and is equally bogus every year.

So... no, it doesn't look like a cataclysm. Looks like a bog standard off-season.

 

[doona]

Sorry, forgot about NEAFL.

May the delistings begin tomorrow.....

 

[doona]

http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2018-09-17/mccartin-locked-in

Emerging Swans forward Tom McCartin has committed to Sydney, signing a two-year contract extension.

The 18-year-old, who was the youngest player in the AFL this year, will now remain a Swan until at least the end of 2021.

 

[Mick Oxlong]

2 more years to Tom McCartin...only 8 more years to go!

 

[Superstar swan]

http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2018-09-17/mccartin-locked-in

Great news. Far exceeded my expectations this year. Didnt think he would get a game then when he did i thought hed play a few games without much influence and go back to neafl. More than held his spot and was our best contested mark this year,kicking needs alot of work but he definately showed enough.

Actually surprised it wasnt longer than 2 years

 

[TheMase]

Actually surprised it wasnt longer than 2 years

Kid probably backing himself to get a better contract towards the end of the Buddy deal

 

[Number37]

Kid probably backing himself to get a better contract towards the end of the Buddy deal

You're not following the script Mase....if Horse doesn't change the game plan in the next 2 years then Tommy will walk out with everybody else.

 

[Kapanis]

Hanners and Rohan show contracts mean sweet FA. What's to stop McCartin saying in one or two years he wants out for personal reasons when he's going to be developing into what we all hope he becomes.

 

[Number37]

Hanners and Rohan show contracts mean sweet FA. What's to stop McCartin saying in one or two years he wants out for personal reasons when he's going to be developing into what we all hope he becomes.

The overwhelming majority of contracts are honoured.
Sometimes s**t happens.

 

[Tedeski]

Hanners and Rohan show contracts mean sweet FA. What's to stop McCartin saying in one or two years he wants out for personal reasons when he's going to be developing into what we all hope he becomes.

You are right. The landscape has changed but the best clubs with better list management will still be ahead of the curve & thus far, apart from AFL manufactured curve balls like the trade ban, we've proven we are about the best. I think by then Buddy may be close to done & Tommy will have 1.5M reasons to stay if he takes the comp by storm Kapanis. Also by then young Blakey will be his partner in crime up forward.

 

[Kapanis]

The overwhelming majority of contracts are honoured.
Sometimes s**t happens.

I've got a feeling that will change over the medium to long term 37, the landscape is changing.

 

[Kapanis]

You are right. The landscape has changed but the best clubs with better list management will still be ahead of the curve & thus far, apart from AFL manufactured curve balls like the trade ban, we've proven we are about the best. I think by then Buddy may be close to done & Tommy will have 1.5M reasons to stay if he takes the comp by storm Kapanis. Also by then young Blakey will be his partner in crime up forward.

Can see that Ted and it's smart thinking of all sides, Precedents are being made though. I understand the Rohan situation and still have no idea re Hanners except for rumours re his personal life.

 

[Number37]

I've got a feeling that will change over the medium to long term 37, the landscape is changing.

It probably will change but you have to look at it practically.

If you breach a contract what can the other party do?
Sue you for damages.
There are no damages to an AFL club for player breach of contract.
The club might get a $1 as nominal damages.
The club might get an equitable remedy like an injunction that stops the player from playing with another club or forcing them to honour their contract.

Given that football clubs are all about 'buy in' it makes no sense to force someone who doesn't want to 'buy in'.
Forcing a player to 'buy in' would create a toxic environment.

 

[Kapanis]

It probably will change but you have to look at it practically.

If you breach a contract what can the other party do?
Sue you for damages.
There are no damages to an AFL club for player breach of contract.
The club might get a $1 as nominal damages.
The club might get an equitable remedy like an injunction that stops the player from playing with another club or forcing them to honour their contract.

Given that football clubs are all about 'buy in' it makes no sense to force someone who doesn't want to 'buy in'.
Forcing a player to 'buy in' would create a toxic environment.

Exactly, contracts mean sweet FA if the player or club aren't happy.

 

[Tedeski]

Can see that Ted and it's smart thinking of all sides, Precedents are being made though. I understand the Rohan situation and still have no idea re Hanners except for rumours re his personal life.

Yeah the Hanners one is interesting but a little shake up of some much loved players sometimes provides tge freshen up a club needs.
I was watching Melbourne the other night & couldn't help but think of Jack Watts at Port.
Here are Melbourne making the hard call to let him go but the more popular thing among supporters was to keep him.
He's gone to Port & pretty much given them the same old same old Jack Watts effort which is just a good effert at most.
It's Melbourne's unknowns that have taken them to the prelim this week.
Port missed out.
From our point of view perhaps the coaches, who know what Hanner's out put has been better than anyone, think he needs a change for his own career & we could do with the injection of someone different into the midfield group who is ready to go.
A discussion for another time when we find out who the heck it is.