Please explain KICKING OVER THE MARK to me.

[MrRockett24]

Why do umpIres sometimes bring players back over the mark...other times they dont...some times they do it twice.

Cant pay a play on from this.

Stop a team gettng an effective kick as opposition drops back.

Explain please...i have no clue about this rule.

Cheers.

 

[Armadeo]

There are a couple of situations where this may occur.

In some cases you can take a running mark towards your goal say 20m out. If you start to slow down past the mark, the defender cannot tackle or grab you, but in some cases you can play on and kick a goal from 10-15m out instead of 25-30m out. I am of the opinion that if you slow down after you take a mark you forfeit your option to play on from in front of the mark.

Another one you may be thinking of is when a player takes a mark and hits the deck and the ball spills out to a team mate who scoops it up and kicks it to advantage, the ball will be brought back to the mark and the kick taken by the original marker (no advantage paid on a mark).

 

[MrRockett24]

Example is a free kick paid...player isnt standing directly straight to the mark and kicks or handballs...umpire calls it back and makes the player take 2 steps left and tells him he needs to come back over the mark.

Said player does this and kicks, the. Its all good an the game continues.

 

[rickyp]

Example is a free kick paid...player isnt standing directly straight to the mark and kicks or handballs...umpire calls it back and makes the player take 2 steps left and tells him he needs to come back over the mark.

Said player does this and kicks, the. Its all good an the game continues.

The player kicking must start in line with the player on the mark and the goals, so they can't improve the angle. Once they start in that position they can do whatever they want. Another slight variant is with out of bounds on the full, where the mark is the point the ball crossed the line, and the player must start out of bounds, but not necessarily in line.

 

[Chewy]

This used to be one area of the game where the nazi umpire's loved to flex their puny muscles and exercise their control over proceedings. It made them feel important to whistle the play dead and bring the ball back 100m and make a player get back over his mark. Never mind that he was kicking the ball back into play from an "out on the full" free kick on his own half back flank. He had to get on his angle.

I think it's the advantage rule which has slowly eroded the strict enforcement about being behind your mark. Also to blame is the "keep the game" moving mantra from the AFL. Umpires have become slack and will often allow a player to crib metres past the mark and take off while his unsuspecting opponent stands on the mark with his back to him.

It's one of those areas of umpiring which vary from umpire to umpire, depending on what sort of mood they're in, or what they think of the player who cribs the mark. They're more likely to bring a player back if they think he is a cheat than if he is one of their pets.

It's also an area of the game where corrupt umpires can influence the result of a match, but it isn't reflected by the free kick totals.

 

[lemon chicken]

I think its to do with the point at which the ump blows his whistle and it becomes time on. If a player has moved away from the line of the mark after time on has been called then they have to go back to that position.

 

[blue harvest]

Kick/play on must be taken from or directly behind where the mark/free occurred, unless advantage is called.

 

[oak79]

You can't have 'advantage' for a mark... so if the ball spills when a mark is paid, it must go back to the player that took the mark, behind the mark. If it's a Free kick, advantage can be called.

 

[Spook]

Go have a look at the rules mate..... Try google...OK I will

16.2 PLayING from BehINd the mark
A Player who has been awarded a Mark or Free Kick shall dispose
of the football from directly behind the mark. If a Player disposes
or attempts to dispose of the football other than in a direct line over the mark, the field Umpire shall call “Play On” and the football shall immediately be in play. This Law does not apply if a Player is disposing of the football from beyond the Goal Line, Behind Line or Boundary Line, in which case Laws 16.4 or 16.5 shall apply.

 

[MrRockett24]

Go have a look at the rules mate..... Try google...OK I will

16.2 PLayING from BehINd the mark
A Player who has been awarded a Mark or Free Kick shall dispose
of the football from directly behind the mark. If a Player disposes
or attempts to dispose of the football other than in a direct line over the mark, the field Umpire shall call “Play On” and the football shall immediately be in play. This Law does not apply if a Player is disposing of the football from beyond the Goal Line, Behind Line or Boundary Line, in which case Laws 16.4 or 16.5 shall apply.

And thats all well and good, except for when the player is 1ft off centre to the mark and is called back again. Then the umpire goes nuts on the whistle, the crowd boos, the ball gets kicked back, everyone starts yelling "Whats Going On?" and the player walks back behind the mark and takes a few seconds and then does the exact sdame thing as he ahd done previously, and the umpire is fine wiht it a 2nd time.

Either that or the team ahs lost a great opportunity to mvoe the ball forward.

Nowhere in your respose does it say anything about the umpire calling the ball back and the player must "Kick Over The Mark"

Would be great if they juts called "Play On" in this case per the rules stated above, but they dont and thats where im confused.

The player kicking must start in line with the player on the mark and the goals, so they can't improve the angle. Once they start in that position they can do whatever they want. Another slight variant is with out of bounds on the full, where the mark is the point the ball crossed the line, and the player must start out of bounds, but not necessarily in line.

Have seen this happen multiple times in the backline. Therefore, at that time, the player cant improve the angle.

Lots of times players need to move around the ground a few steps from an OOF kickin, due to the fence being in the way and they cant get enough of a run up for a shot on goal.

They arnt allowed to move around the boundary line, yet Stevie J and his J'Curve kicks are allowed to be off the line ...and Buddy Franklin's "Natural Arc" is allowed too.

 

[Pottering]

Go have a look at the rules mate..... Try google...OK I will

16.2 PLayING from BehINd the mark
A Player who has been awarded a Mark or Free Kick shall dispose
of the football from directly behind the mark. If a Player disposes
or attempts to dispose of the football other than in a direct line over the mark, the field Umpire shall call “Play On” and the football shall immediately be in play. This Law does not apply if a Player is disposing of the football from beyond the Goal Line, Behind Line or Boundary Line, in which case Laws 16.4 or 16.5 shall apply.

Your example concerns the player who marked the ball playing, not where a mark was paid and the ball spilled to ground and a team mate of the marker tries to carry on with the play. In that instance there is no advantage allowed and the ball must come back to the marker.

 

[radiojake]

Nowhere in your respose does it say anything about the umpire calling the ball back and the player must "Kick Over The Mark"

Would be great if they juts called "Play On" in this case per the rules stated above, but they dont and thats where im confused.

I reckon this happens when an umpire has called 'time on' and the game clock as stopped - Player can't play on because the clock has stopped, so needs to take it once time on is called back on again...

 

[karix]

So basically.. the umpire stuffs up and the team which has successfully taken a mark and wants to move the ball quickly is penalised despite the rules stating that the umpire should just call play on?

Awesome.

 

[FRUMPY]

Lots of times players need to move around the ground a few steps from an OOF kickin, due to the fence being in the way and they cant get enough of a run up for a shot on goal.

They arnt allowed to move around the boundary line, yet Stevie J and his J'Curve kicks are allowed to be off the line ...and Buddy Franklin's "Natural Arc" is allowed too.

When the ball is kicked OOF, the player who receives the free kick must start with the ball out of bounds. Alot of the time the player will have it 1m inside the boundary and kick it. The umpire will stop play and tell the player he must start from out of bounds. The player, once starting from out of bounds can then kick/handball/play on. As soon as he crosses the boundary line with the ball it is play on.

The Stevie J and his around the body kicks are play on as soon as he steps away from the line of the mark. Umpire always calls play on on his first/2nd step. Its just that he only takes 2 steps so opposition players dont get time to smother.

Franklins natural arc is a croc and should be play on as soon as he runs off the line of the mark.