Please Take Cotchin!!!!!!!

[SS_Fury]

yes, plz u cant b serious another mid how boring if we take cotchin ill off me self


i go 2 skool with big K, lmao and yes im very biest

and how is school working out for you?

 

[Jimthegreat]

Because two is better than one?

Is there a limit on how many good midfielders a team can have? We got Judd, so is that all we need?

Judd, Stevens, Murphy, Gibbs, Simpson, Walker, Carrazzo, Scotland, Houlihan, Jackson, Bentick, Hadley, Russell, Blackwell, Grigg. That'll keep us going for a year. Then we look at our rucks.......what rucks. Then we just lost two talls. ou have to draft and develop them at some time as, unlike a midfielder, they'll take a few years to physically develop.

 

[Bonz]

a) use west coast as an example, their midfield won them a GF with a rubbish forward line and not so bad backline

b) he has never played CHF, CHB, HFF, he was a ruckman 1st and a resting FP 2nd. Dont assume that because he can run all day, speed like a midfielder and is 200 he can play anywhere.

they had cox hitting it down to there midfielders he cained jolly and doyal ruckman win preureships not midfielders look at geelong ottens king blake west coast seaby cox sydney jolly ball brisbane charman keating mc donald port lade brogan

i beg to differ you need ruckman kruzer provides a ruckman

 

[JavaBlue]

14-16 midfielders! Are we to field a team of short people next year.

Perhaps you need to update yourself on the modern game. Nowadays anyone who's not a key positional player or a ruckman is a midfielder type. We currently have about 20 mid types on our list which is about eight short of what would be considered a balanced list. Have a look at the Cats in the GF and comment on their team of 'short people'. Even in past eras an extended set of classy mids could wreak havoc - take a trip down memory lane and check out our mosquito power 1979-82.

We have 16 talls on our list which number-wise is pretty spot on although we aren't really sure how some of those figure in our plans in terms of position and ability. We have more ruckmen than we need and one of them will go at the end of next season - possibly two if we recruit Kreuzer. And we still remain uncertain about who will step up and play key position back and forward.

People keep saying we have the midfield covered but if we recruit Cotchin and he turns out to be a classy half forward or he plays on-ball and pushes Stevens or Gibbs into half forward roles, we will be a better and more balanced team for it. Getting a good mid type has a considerable knock-on effect plus there's a wide variety of positions they can play - from back pocket to forward pocket. You don't get that with rucks - they either make it as ruckman or they're out.

There's a lot of talk about Kreuzer playing CHF. While Kreuzer is still young and could learn, coaches have been trying to turn ruckman into key forwards since the game began and I can't remember any that have succeeded long term. Playing him CHF also negates, to a certain extent, his enormous tank and ability to get from contest to contest. Still, a creative coach could find ways around this.

Both Kreuzer and Cotchin will add balance to our squad simply because we're still a season or two away from achieving balance.

 

[HBF]

Correct, but because he's such a freak he, at this VERY early stage, is likely to go top 3. We won't be getting a top 3 pick next year. Hopefully we won't see a pick before 6 or 7.

He'll be top 3 next year, along with Michael Hurley and Daniel Rich. Next years top 10-15 will be very strong.

 

[Blues_Man]

We lost a KPP ...and not just any KPP, the bloke was touted as the future of our football club ...we gained THE best midfielder in the comp .

We will replace the KPP with Kruezer ...mark it down .

 

[TGR]

Perhaps you need to update yourself on the modern game. Nowadays anyone who's not a key positional player or a ruckman is a midfielder type. We currently have about 20 mid types on our list which is about eight short of what would be considered a balanced list. Have a look at the Cats in the GF and comment on their team of 'short people'. Even in past eras an extended set of classy mids could wreak havoc - take a trip down memory lane and check out our mosquito power 1979-82.

We have 16 talls on our list which number-wise is pretty spot on although we aren't really sure how some of those figure in our plans in terms of position and ability. We have more ruckmen than we need and one of them will go at the end of next season - possibly two if we recruit Kreuzer. And we still remain uncertain about who will step up and play key position back and forward.

People keep saying we have the midfield covered but if we recruit Cotchin and he turns out to be a classy half forward or he plays on-ball and pushes Stevens or Gibbs into half forward roles, we will be a better and more balanced team for it. Getting a good mid type has a considerable knock-on effect plus there's a wide variety of positions they can play - from back pocket to forward pocket. You don't get that with rucks - they either make it as ruckman or they're out.

There's a lot of talk about Kreuzer playing CHF. While Kreuzer is still young and could learn, coaches have been trying to turn ruckman into key forwards since the game began and I can't remember any that have succeeded long term. Playing him CHF also negates, to a certain extent, his enormous tank and ability to get from contest to contest. Still, a creative coach could find ways around this.

Both Kreuzer and Cotchin will add balance to our squad simply because we're still a season or two away from achieving balance.

Reckon I know enough. By the way ruckman are also mids.

You want to talk versatility how about a ruckman you don't have to bench.

 

[SA Blue]

You need a top line ruck division (yes midfield as well), all we have is 2 players with a total of 2 games to their names. The chances of both of them becoming top line rucks is very slim.

IMO, Kreuzer is a must for us. We are quickly establishing a top line mid field, let's get the rucks up to speed.

16 out of 16 AFL recruiters agree!

 

[TGR]

16 out of 16 AFL recruiters agree!

Why do people keep saying this. It's not true. I wouldn't be surprised if less than half do. I reckon I know 3 clubs that have neither of Kreuzer or Cotchin at number 1.

 

[gandaal]

Why do people keep saying this. It's not true. I wouldn't be surprised if less than half do. I reckon I know 3 clubs that have neither of Kreuzer or Cotchin at number 1.

Many recruiters in the paper today were said that there was nothing in it, and the Pies recruiter straight out said he'd take Cotchin given the choice.

 

[TorresIsGod]

I'd rather take Jennifer Hawkins

Jen > Megan easily

 

[TigerTuff2008]

Blue baggers need the Big K - it's a deal , it's a steal, it's sale of the F*** century....

Tigers will then hopefully take Cotchin - and who cares after that......

 

[HBF]

Why do people keep saying this. It's not true. I wouldn't be surprised if less than half do. I reckon I know 3 clubs that have neither of Kreuzer or Cotchin at number 1.

Spot on TGR. There is no way known that every RM has Kreuzer at 1.

 

[JavaBlue]

Reckon I know enough. By the way ruckman are also mids.

I reckon you reckon you do know enough so I guess I'll have to put the "team of short people" bit down to a piisstake.

I suppose ruckman could be considered mids (although not short people) - depends how you want to define ''mids'. I didn't define them that way.

You want to talk versatility how about a ruckman you don't have to bench.

I'll believe that when I see it. Even the benchmark ruck/'mid' Cox gets benched - 27 minutes in 2005 GF which probably cost them the game. Port tried it with Lade this year and he wasn't much use to them in the last quarter. I suppose if you reduced Kreuzer's time on the ball and 'rested' him up forward more often it could be done but the way the game's played today (and the way Kreuzer plays) that might be asking a bit much.

I've probably leaned towards Cotchin in this debate but what I really like about Kreuzer is his desperation in the 1%ers which bring with it the more intangible advantage of lifting/inspiring the team. Something we've lacked. You've seen him more than I have - is that something he'll brings to the game?

 

[Big Bad Sammus]

If what Wayne Hughes & Swanny have said according to the papers is true, I think Carlton will surprise the F*** out of all of us and pick Cotchin at #1.

IMO I believe we have some pretty good talls in our team and now with both Irish boys there, I think they will rotate them along with Cloke back in the side.

I would prefer to take Kreuzer because it's rare to get a 2m monster with that athletic ability and engine, but Cotchin looks the goods and will slip in perfectly to our team. If not, there's always next year!

*I too have a funny feeling that Kreuzer will more than likely get injuried after a couple of seasons of AFL footy.

 

[HBF]

If what Wayne Hughes & Swanny have said according to the papers is true, I think Carlton will surprise the F*** out of all of us and pick Cotchin at #1.

I've got a feeling that they might take Cotchin as well. I'm just not sure that the club would use 2 top 20 selections on ruckman in 2 successive drafts.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

good problem to have

 

[HBF]

good problem to have

You got that right.

 

[jj1978]

I think it'll be Kreuzer.

A little hint in the paper was that Hughes said that before "Judd", Cotchin was in the mix... and to get Judd we gave up our CHF (JK) to get him...

In my view.. Judd now replaces "Cotchin" as being in the mix and perhaps Kreuzer to come in with maybe Aisake or Kreuzer being looked at as potential CHF?

 

[TGR]

I think it'll be Kreuzer.

A little hint in the paper was that Hughes said that before "Judd", Cotchin was in the mix... and to get Judd we gave up our CHF (JK) to get him...

In my view.. Judd now replaces "Cotchin" as being in the mix and perhaps Kreuzer to come in with maybe Aisake or Kreuzer being looked at as potential CHF?

Or maybe WH is having a bit of fun with the media. Neither name should surprise any on the day. However if he read out Morton I'd be shocked.

 

[gandaal]

Or maybe WH is having a bit of fun with the media. Neither name should surprise any on the day. However if he read out Morton I'd be shocked.

There were a few whispers about Morton not too long ago but in the end that's all they were. Its always been down to the best ruck and the best mid just like last year.

 

[Mayesy_23]

We will pick Kreuzer however, I think Cotchin will win matches off his own boot more than big Kreuze in the primes of their careers.

 

[HBF]

Or maybe WH is having a bit of fun with the media. Neither name should surprise any on the day. However if he read out Morton I'd be shocked.

I'd have Myers ahead of Morton thankyou very much.

 

[TGR]

I'd have Myers ahead of Morton thankyou very much.

Had him ahead myself since mid-year just quietly.

 

[Carson_Kressley]

Because two is better than one?

Is there a limit on how many good midfielders a team can have? We got Judd, so is that all we need?

nah but we also got murphy , gibbs and stevens so along wif judd thats 4 top class midfielders. we definately need a good ruckman and a a good backman