Social Science Plot holes and inaccuracies

[Bert1]

Apart from the blatantly obvious ones on every weeks episode of WWE Raw (add them too if you like, I don't care) what are some others you have noticed?



One I picked up on the other day is the last scene of Final Destination 2 with the kid and the bbq. How they are talking about how the junkie dude saved his life at the big car accident, then next thing BOOM, the bbq explodes and the kid's leg lands on the table. I mean yeah, haha, it was a feelgood moment and we all had a good time....

However what is wrong that is that if the junkie dude and all the others had actually died in the beginning there would have been no need for the kid to be in the field at that time. He wouldn't have even been there and there would have been nobody there to run him over either therefore not needing to have been saved. Hence the kid never really cheated death's original plan at all so the whole bbq explosion was unjustified.

What are some more plot holes you peeps have noticed from anywhere? Could even be from real life.... Or worse, from somewhere on GD!

 

[woopedazz]

I like Black Flag in GD.

 

[pezz]

this clip owns this thread

[YOUTUBE]1yqVD0swvWU[/YOUTUBE]

 

[Dan26]

Biggest plot hole in histroy:

At the start of Back to the Future Part 2, Marty, Jennifer and the Doc, go forward to the year 2015, right? At this point they leave the year 1985 and skip 30 years and arrive in the year 2015.

Now remember in the first movie, when Einstein the dog was the first time traveller? he skipped over the "minute" and wasn't around during that minute.

So, really, when Marty, Jen and the Doc arrive in 2015, Marty should not encounter his future self. Marty would have been missing for 30 years, right?
When it got to 1987 (for instance), Marty's family would have been saying he had been missing for two years.

I believe its impossible to go into the future to meet your future self because until you comeback you're not there. When young Marty is in the year 2015, he hasn't come back to 1985 yet has he? So, how can he encounter 47 year old Marty?

The 17 year old Marty in the year 2015, should be the only Marty in existence. And whilst in 2015 young Marty could probably look up an old Newspaper from 1985 stating that Marty McFly disappeared, and was never found!

The fact that 47 year old Marty is around in the future is only possible if all the events that occur in the timeline are destined or predetermined. Something that is shown numerous times at other points in the trilogy to not be the case at all.

 

[TheStinger]

Biggest plot hole in histroy:

At the start of Back to the Future Part 2, Marty, Jennifer and the Doc, go forward to the year 2015, right? At this point they leave the year 1985 and skip 30 years and arrive in the year 2015.

Now remember in the first movie, when Einstein the dog was the first time traveller? he skipped over the "minute" and wasn't around during that minute.

So, really, when Marty, Jen and the Doc arrive in 2015, Marty should not encounter his future self. Marty would have been missing for 30 years, right?
When it got to 1987 (for instance), Marty's family would have been saying he had been missing for two years.

I believe its impossible to go into the future to meet your future self because until you comeback you're not there. When young Marty is in the year 2015, he hasn't come back to 1985 yet has he? So, how can he encounter 47 year old Marty?

The 17 year old Marty in the year 2015, should be the only Marty in existence. And whilst in 2015 young Marty could probably look up an old Newspaper from 1985 stating that Marty McFly disappeared, and was never found!

The fact that 47 year old Marty is around in the future is only possible if all the events that occur in the timeline are destined or predetermined. Something that is shown numerous times at other points in the trilogy to not be the case at all.

 

[pezz]

Biggest plot hole in histroy:

At the start of Back to the Future Part 2, Marty, Jennifer and the Doc, go forward to the year 2015, right? At this point they leave the year 1985 and skip 30 years and arrive in the year 2015.

Now remember in the first movie, when Einstein the dog was the first time traveller? he skipped over the "minute" and wasn't around during that minute.

So, really, when Marty, Jen and the Doc arrive in 2015, Marty should not encounter his future self. Marty would have been missing for 30 years, right?
When it got to 1987 (for instance), Marty's family would have been saying he had been missing for two years.

I believe its impossible to go into the future to meet your future self because until you comeback you're not there. When young Marty is in the year 2015, he hasn't come back to 1985 yet has he? So, how can he encounter 47 year old Marty?

The 17 year old Marty in the year 2015, should be the only Marty in existence. And whilst in 2015 young Marty could probably look up an old Newspaper from 1985 stating that Marty McFly disappeared, and was never found!

The fact that 47 year old Marty is around in the future is only possible if all the events that occur in the timeline are destined or predetermined. Something that is shown numerous times at other points in the trilogy to not be the case at all.

 

[cmndstab]

Apart from the blatantly obvious ones on every weeks episode of WWE Raw (add them too if you like, I don't care) what are some others you have noticed?

One of my favourite old wrestling plotholes was in WCW. A man in a costume (I think it was a bee costume or something equally ridiculous) attacked Rick Steiner and everyone was wondering, who is behind the mask? The following week the man in the bee costume came out again and demasked... and it was Rick Steiner

 

[cancat]

this clip owns this thread

[youtube]1yqVD0swvWU[/youtube]

Thanks. That is the best!

 

[Rustin Cohle]

Back to the future III and Marty McFly's incestuous beginnings.

When Marty goes back to 1885 he meets his great-great grandparents, Seamus and Maggie McFly. We are told that their son William is the first McFly born in America, meaning that William is George McFly's grandfather. Marty and Seamus look alike (both are played by Michael J. Fox) and we can assume that Seamus' genes have passed down the line to Marty causing the similar looks.

However, with this in mind, how is it possible for Maggie to look like Marty's mother Lorraine McFly (both are played by Lea Thompson) if she was married into the family at a later date. Her maiden name was Baines, meaning she would have had a completely different set of ancestors.

The only explanation is that George McFly and Lorraine Baines are related to each other, meaning Marty is an incest baby. No wonder his kids turned out so bad.

 

[woopedazz]

^ Or maybe they just look similar for comedy purposes and nostalgia related to BTTF: I

 

[omit]

Back to the future III and Marty McFly's incestuous beginnings.

When Marty goes back to 1885 he meets his great-great grandparents, Seamus and Maggie McFly. We are told that their son William is the first McFly born in America, meaning that William is George McFly's grandfather. Marty and Seamus look alike (both are played by Michael J. Fox) and we can assume that Seamus' genes have passed down the line to Marty causing the similar looks.

However, with this in mind, how is it possible for Maggie to look like Marty's mother Lorraine McFly (both are played by Lea Thompson) if she was married into the family at a later date. Her maiden name was Baines, meaning she would have had a completely different set of ancestors.

The only explanation is that George McFly and Lorraine Baines are related to each other, meaning Marty is an incest baby. No wonder his kids turned out so bad.

I think I can answer this for you... It's a movie

 

[Rustin Cohle]

I think I can answer this for you... It's a movie

No shit.

 

[MarcMaverick]

Heres one for you: Why did they make Star Wars Eps 4,5,6 before 1,2,3?

 

[courtjester]

No, Marty goes into the future, but he also returns. So he is only missing from 1985 for the duration of the time he spends in 2015. So his existence in the future is ensured by his return to 1985.

 

[pezz]

Heres one for you: Why did they make Star Wars Eps 4,5,6 before 1,2,3?

Did you see 1,2,3 ?
Therein lies your answer young Jedi.

 

[NeRFaHoLIc]

Back to the future III and Marty McFly's incestuous beginnings.

When Marty goes back to 1885 he meets his great-great grandparents, Seamus and Maggie McFly. We are told that their son William is the first McFly born in America, meaning that William is George McFly's grandfather. Marty and Seamus look alike (both are played by Michael J. Fox) and we can assume that Seamus' genes have passed down the line to Marty causing the similar looks.

However, with this in mind, how is it possible for Maggie to look like Marty's mother Lorraine McFly (both are played by Lea Thompson) if she was married into the family at a later date. Her maiden name was Baines, meaning she would have had a completely different set of ancestors.

The only explanation is that George McFly and Lorraine Baines are related to each other, meaning Marty is an incest baby. No wonder his kids turned out so bad.

Hardly a plot hole.

Lea Thompson played Maggie to continue with the whole Marty wakes up from hitting his head, thinking it's his mum in the room and saying he had a terrible nightmare, travelling in time.

However when it comes to movies about time travel, there are usually 43890432890 plot holes in them. Look at Terminator... the machines were only able to be created because of the the microchip the Terminator left behind after being destroyed. But how was the Terminator able to be sent back in time to begin with when really it never should have been able to be built? I know, head explosion.

Same goes with John Connor, he built Kyle Reese, who goes back in time to knock up Sarah Connor... to give birth to... John Connor... so... yeah I don't even know where to begin with that one.

 

[BarneyBent]

However when it comes to movies about time travel, there are usually 43890432890 plot holes in them. Look at Terminator... the machines were only able to be created because of the the microchip the Terminator left behind after being destroyed. But how was the Terminator able to be sent back in time to begin with when really it never should have been able to be built? I know, head explosion.

Same goes with John Connor, he built Kyle Reese, who goes back in time to knock up Sarah Connor... to give birth to... John Connor... so... yeah I don't even know where to begin with that one.

Those aren't plot holes, they are time loops. They're often proposed as a solution to the grandfather paradox or similar paradoxes.

 

[FootyJunkie]

However when it comes to movies about time travel, there are usually 43890432890 plot holes in them. Look at Terminator... the machines were only able to be created because of the the microchip the Terminator left behind after being destroyed. But how was the Terminator able to be sent back in time to begin with when really it never should have been able to be built? I know, head explosion.

Same goes with John Connor, he built Kyle Reese, who goes back in time to knock up Sarah Connor... to give birth to... John Connor... so... yeah I don't even know where to begin with that one.

Both are chicken and egg problems if you consider only one timeline.

If you consider alternate timelines... perhaps John Connor's original father was Dan Morsky (the guy that cancelled the date with Sarah who drove a porsche).... eventually Dan and Sarah get it on, and John is born... this John becomes the "great miliatry leader" all on his own when the bots show up naturally without the aide of any chip... and so he sends Kyle Reese back in time to save his mother from Arnie... this spawns a different parallel timeline where Sarah and Kyle get it on (as in the movie) and we get, effectively, a different John...

 

[FootyJunkie]

Heres one for you: Why did they make Star Wars Eps 4,5,6 before 1,2,3?

I think if George did the prequels first, they would have actually been better than the prequels we got, but would not have done as well as the original trilogy at the box office.

The fact that from the word go in Episode IV, you were thrown right into a war that you had no idea what it was about and who was what and why, made the movie even more appealing. The mere presence of Darth Vader as soon as he boards the Tantive IV is when the audience really drew themselves in.

Starting it with Episode I with almost everything explained on a silver platter in comparison would have been dull.

 

[FootyJunkie]

Biggest plot hole in histroy:

At the start of Back to the Future Part 2, Marty, Jennifer and the Doc, go forward to the year 2015, right? At this point they leave the year 1985 and skip 30 years and arrive in the year 2015.

Now remember in the first movie, when Einstein the dog was the first time traveller? he skipped over the "minute" and wasn't around during that minute.

So, really, when Marty, Jen and the Doc arrive in 2015, Marty should not encounter his future self. Marty would have been missing for 30 years, right?
When it got to 1987 (for instance), Marty's family would have been saying he had been missing for two years.

I believe its impossible to go into the future to meet your future self because until you comeback you're not there. When young Marty is in the year 2015, he hasn't come back to 1985 yet has he? So, how can he encounter 47 year old Marty?

The 17 year old Marty in the year 2015, should be the only Marty in existence. And whilst in 2015 young Marty could probably look up an old Newspaper from 1985 stating that Marty McFly disappeared, and was never found!

The fact that 47 year old Marty is around in the future is only possible if all the events that occur in the timeline are destined or predetermined. Something that is shown numerous times at other points in the trilogy to not be the case at all.

The guys that produced BTTF had no intention of doing a sequel. The final scene of BTTF1 was merely a cool "going off into the sunset" type of ending with no intention of explaining where, although it was obviously hinted that it was the future.

When the idea of a sequel gathered momentum, it would have been a big FU to the fans not showing where they actually went and did after the first movie, so they were stuck with going into the future. The guys behind BTTF would never actually wanted to go to the future, because you can never get the future right.... i find that silly though since the word 'future' is in the movie's title.

Anyway... fans would have been ripped off if they went into the future and didn't see old versions of marty, jennifer, so they did it, ignoring any plot holes it might create.

BTTF are fun films, but shouldn't be taken seriously.

 

[Dan26]

No, Marty goes into the future, but he also returns. So he is only missing from 1985 for the duration of the time he spends in 2015. So his existence in the future is ensured by his return to 1985.

Wrong.

As I stated in the last paragraph, the fact that 47 year old Marty is around in the future is only possible if all the events that occur in the timeline are destined or predetermined. Something that is shown numerous times at other points in the trilogy to not be the case at all.

The movie makes a point of saying that nothing is predetermined. The fture is what you make it.

Therefore, you can't make the assumption that the 17 year old Marty who leaps forward to 2015 will go back to 1985, because it is not predetermined that he will do that.

When he leaps forward to 2015, he LEFT 1985. This mean that when 17 year old Marty arrived in 2015, it is impossible for the 47 year old marty to be there. Marty would have disappeared in 1985, and everyone would have been looking for him for 30 years.

 

[Jethro!]

That idiotic movie Signs is rife with polt stupidities. As most M Night Shamawhatever movies are.

How does an alien that has mastered intergalactic travel get trapped in a pantry?

Why would this intelligent race of aliens go to a planet that is 70% water when it burns their skin? that would be like humans going to the surface of Venus and not caring about the sulphuric acid rain.

there are many more but can't be bothered

 

[centrelink1]

Did you see 1,2,3 ?
Therein lies your answer young Jedi.

Underrated post

 

[Hard Ball Get]

Back to the Future rules. Who cares if it is not 100% accurate in that respect?

 

[aaronm46]

Frankly my dear, I love you lets re-marry