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Atkins is 4 years 400k from all the most recent reports.
Was really just the initial report that suggested more.
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Hawthorn
OOC's: I don't think Hawthorn can afford to be picky here with quite a few OOC's, I'd be signing anyone under 25 for at least a year, if they're a project sort of player like Emerson Jeka give them two, even though I don't particularly rate their youth I doubt they'd be able to get enough quality in to replenish it this off season to warrant a large dumping of these guys
Trade/FA: Unless they're a genuine A grader, I wouldn't be bringing in anyone older than 25 if I was Hawthorn, just don't think there's anyone point spending anything meaningful on guys that likely won't be best 22 by the time they're competing again. For trade targets, again they just need to get good youth in, Xavier O'Halloran, Will Brodie, Peter Wright, Alex Witherden, Jye Caldwell as guys that are definitely available, Hawthorn needs to be sounding them out, even a young guy that I believe is OOC like Brayden Ham wouldn't be a bad and likely cheap pickup. They've been half linked to Preuss which certainly wouldn't be terrible, but I'd want them to enquire about Sam Hayes from Port Adelaide as well as a younger option.
Draft: Best available with a preference for KPP talent, especially with Frawley retiring and Patton still injury prone. Will get Connor Downie which address speed on the outside
Gold Coast Suns
OOC's: Already done a wave of delisting's but would think there's more to come with their list being bigger than standard as is, and the impending cuts. Could probably afford to delist Hombsch and Murtagh from here
Trade/ FA: Seem destined to land Atkins on a 4 year deal, I don't necessarily think it's a good target but is happening anyway so idk. Brodie and Wright seem to be on the table and should net them some picks they can comfortably move to next season. Also linked to Broad who I think would be a great pickup as a guy that can bring some aggression to that backline, and adds a lockdown option as the others down there are more play off their opponent sorts. Markov has also been brought up more recently, either would be good
Draft: KPD or Ruck prospect would be nice, but if DGB and Thilthorpe are gone by their pick best available is a good choice, might end up with someone like Phillips to continue their strong character policy
Essendon
OOC's: Think most of their guys that haven't already announced a trade request will stay, could probably afford to delist Townsend and Gleeson if they needed the list spots but both currently offer ok depth. I wouldn't be matching a bid on Daniher regardless of what the compensation ends up being (as long as it's band 1 or 2), but I agree with their supporters encouraging a hard stance on Saad. I may be in the minority but I think he's worth a pick 10 alone, so if Bombers throw a second in for 7 I'd call that even
Trade/FA: Brodie and Wright, like Hawthorn and North Melbourne would both be best 22 at Essendon and compliment what they already have pretty well, Brodie especially. O'Halloran as a big bodied mid also makes sense and may come cheaper than Brodie. Ben Brown as a Daniher replacement, while not like for like, would be good for Essendon as a target to go along with Stewart/ Wright, however the lead up nature of Browns game style may prevent Harrison Jones from making the team which would have to be considered. A dream for Essendon would be Jarrod Berry or Tim Taranto as inside ball winners, but may be too costly for what the Dons are looking to do.
Draft: Midfielders and tall forwards, they'll definitely have the chance to pick O'Driscoll which would fit them nicely, I'd expect them to look at Tanner Bruhn and Will Phillips, however both are similar size wise to what they already have
OOC's: I don't think Hawthorn can afford to be picky here with quite a few OOC's, I'd be signing anyone under 25 for at least a year, if they're a project sort of player like Emerson Jeka give them two, even though I don't particularly rate their youth I doubt they'd be able to get enough quality in to replenish it this off season to warrant a large dumping of these guys
Trade/FA: Unless they're a genuine A grader, I wouldn't be bringing in anyone older than 25 if I was Hawthorn, just don't think there's anyone point spending anything meaningful on guys that likely won't be best 22 by the time they're competing again. For trade targets, again they just need to get good youth in, Xavier O'Halloran, Will Brodie, Peter Wright, Alex Witherden, Jye Caldwell as guys that are definitely available, Hawthorn needs to be sounding them out, even a young guy that I believe is OOC like Brayden Ham wouldn't be a bad and likely cheap pickup. They've been half linked to Preuss which certainly wouldn't be terrible, but I'd want them to enquire about Sam Hayes from Port Adelaide as well as a younger option.
Draft: Best available with a preference for KPP talent, especially with Frawley retiring and Patton still injury prone. Will get Connor Downie which address speed on the outside
Gold Coast Suns
OOC's: Already done a wave of delisting's but would think there's more to come with their list being bigger than standard as is, and the impending cuts. Could probably afford to delist Hombsch and Murtagh from here
Trade/ FA: Seem destined to land Atkins on a 4 year deal, I don't necessarily think it's a good target but is happening anyway so idk. Brodie and Wright seem to be on the table and should net them some picks they can comfortably move to next season. Also linked to Broad who I think would be a great pickup as a guy that can bring some aggression to that backline, and adds a lockdown option as the others down there are more play off their opponent sorts. Markov has also been brought up more recently, either would be good
Draft: KPD or Ruck prospect would be nice, but if DGB and Thilthorpe are gone by their pick best available is a good choice, might end up with someone like Phillips to continue their strong character policy
Essendon
OOC's: Think most of their guys that haven't already announced a trade request will stay, could probably afford to delist Townsend and Gleeson if they needed the list spots but both currently offer ok depth. I wouldn't be matching a bid on Daniher regardless of what the compensation ends up being (as long as it's band 1 or 2), but I agree with their supporters encouraging a hard stance on Saad. I may be in the minority but I think he's worth a pick 10 alone, so if Bombers throw a second in for 7 I'd call that even
Trade/FA: Brodie and Wright, like Hawthorn and North Melbourne would both be best 22 at Essendon and compliment what they already have pretty well, Brodie especially. O'Halloran as a big bodied mid also makes sense and may come cheaper than Brodie. Ben Brown as a Daniher replacement, while not like for like, would be good for Essendon as a target to go along with Stewart/ Wright, however the lead up nature of Browns game style may prevent Harrison Jones from making the team which would have to be considered. A dream for Essendon would be Jarrod Berry or Tim Taranto as inside ball winners, but may be too costly for what the Dons are looking to do.
Draft: Midfielders and tall forwards, they'll definitely have the chance to pick O'Driscoll which would fit them nicely, I'd expect them to look at Tanner Bruhn and Will Phillips, however both are similar size wise to what they already have
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OOC's: Seems like they've re-signed or delisted all they had to, all makes sense however I would've given Jarvis Pina another year or two as I thought he had some potential and should've been given opportunity, but thats difficult in the Fremantle backline.
Trade/ FA: Doesn't seem to be much going on rumour wise. I don't really know what they need that isn't easily addressed via academy so specific targets aren't something I can really come up with, they're in a good spot with their youth, so I guess if there's any WA youth looking for trades back home they should put themselves at the front of those players minds
Draft: First pick will end up being around 12/13 after compo and bids. I think Jack Carroll would fit them really well on the wing as a really classy and smart user, likewise with Finlay Macrae. Again Perkins has his fans in this area of the draft so he could also be a good pickup as an outside user.
Carlton
OOC's: Again seem to have done all the work on this front already. I have seen that Matt Kennedy remains OOC, he could possibly play a piece in the Saad trade if Carlton don't see him as best 22, which could be a beneficial trade for both sides.
Trade/ FA: Should get Saad and Williams in the end, however difficult the Saad deal may be, I do still think they should look to get a small forward in as well. Looking around there doesn't seem to be many on the outer that would be worthwhile pick ups. I guess Zak Butters would be a good pick up but difficult to get out of Port, I assume he'd also want to be a bit more than just a small forward at some stage.
Draft: Will likely lose Pick 7, either in the Saad trade or a trade for two mid teens picks. If they keep pick 7 I think Tanner Bruhn would be my choice, if they hold a mid teens/ early 20's pick I'd bid on Joel Western, Errol Gulden and then select Bailey Laurie
GWS
OOC: Done some re-signing and delisting, with youngsters Caldwell and O'Halloran seemingly considering trades, I'd let Caldwell go as he has some currency, however O'Halloran I'd look to keep for 3 years and revisit a trade if he still wants one. Kieran Briggs is another that should be re-signed, especially with the history of Ruck issues at GWS. Cameron is also a priority and would be a massive loss, very hard to replace without a top pick
Trade/ FA: Preuss has already requested a trade it seems and will likely be the only move. I'd love for us to consider Alex Witherden if he's open to a trade as a possible Heath Shaw replacement with a better kick.
Draft: At this stage should have Pick 10/11 after bids for Williams Compo, Zach Reid and Nikolas Cox as developing KPPs, another favourite of the GWS board is Heath Chapman who could play as a Winger early if necessary and then moving into a Nick Haynes type role.
OOC's: Seems like they've re-signed or delisted all they had to, all makes sense however I would've given Jarvis Pina another year or two as I thought he had some potential and should've been given opportunity, but thats difficult in the Fremantle backline.
Trade/ FA: Doesn't seem to be much going on rumour wise. I don't really know what they need that isn't easily addressed via academy so specific targets aren't something I can really come up with, they're in a good spot with their youth, so I guess if there's any WA youth looking for trades back home they should put themselves at the front of those players minds
Draft: First pick will end up being around 12/13 after compo and bids. I think Jack Carroll would fit them really well on the wing as a really classy and smart user, likewise with Finlay Macrae. Again Perkins has his fans in this area of the draft so he could also be a good pickup as an outside user.
Carlton
OOC's: Again seem to have done all the work on this front already. I have seen that Matt Kennedy remains OOC, he could possibly play a piece in the Saad trade if Carlton don't see him as best 22, which could be a beneficial trade for both sides.
Trade/ FA: Should get Saad and Williams in the end, however difficult the Saad deal may be, I do still think they should look to get a small forward in as well. Looking around there doesn't seem to be many on the outer that would be worthwhile pick ups. I guess Zak Butters would be a good pick up but difficult to get out of Port, I assume he'd also want to be a bit more than just a small forward at some stage.
Draft: Will likely lose Pick 7, either in the Saad trade or a trade for two mid teens picks. If they keep pick 7 I think Tanner Bruhn would be my choice, if they hold a mid teens/ early 20's pick I'd bid on Joel Western, Errol Gulden and then select Bailey Laurie
GWS
OOC: Done some re-signing and delisting, with youngsters Caldwell and O'Halloran seemingly considering trades, I'd let Caldwell go as he has some currency, however O'Halloran I'd look to keep for 3 years and revisit a trade if he still wants one. Kieran Briggs is another that should be re-signed, especially with the history of Ruck issues at GWS. Cameron is also a priority and would be a massive loss, very hard to replace without a top pick
Trade/ FA: Preuss has already requested a trade it seems and will likely be the only move. I'd love for us to consider Alex Witherden if he's open to a trade as a possible Heath Shaw replacement with a better kick.
Draft: At this stage should have Pick 10/11 after bids for Williams Compo, Zach Reid and Nikolas Cox as developing KPPs, another favourite of the GWS board is Heath Chapman who could play as a Winger early if necessary and then moving into a Nick Haynes type role.
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His endurance is the main one, that's the best attribute to have on the wing, especially in our system where we use them pretty traditionally, and his kicking would probably be placed in the top handful for GWS midfielders (below Whitfield and Kelly), makes him a better link up option to say Perryman who's likely to play on the opposite wing in this scenario. Being defensively minded as well he could play as a permanent quarterback type or drop back into defence when Whitfield goes for a run.
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OOC's: Spargo, Bedford, Brown and Hore are the priority re-signings in my opinion, as guys that are all in that top 25 bracket or should be at the club. If they needed to get rid of one I think Spargo and Bedford would attract significant interest, Hore as well would be good for a club needing an injection of backline talent. Their other OOC players are all take or leave, none particularly excite me.
Trade/FA: Apparently leading the race for Ben Brown which is certainly one of their big needs as someone to support Weideman, a younger KPF wouldn't be bad either as a development player. They need some classy ball users through the middle or on the wing as well, so their interest in Isaac Smith is well placed, they could also consider Shaun Higgins as well. They should again look for a younger development sort in this role as both those guys wouldn't have long left
Draft: Probably won't have a lot of picks or any high picks, so some project athletic guys may be the best shout. guys like Connor Stone, Ollie Lord, Liam McMahon, Henry Smith as rawer prospects with high upside
Western Bulldogs
OOC's: Haven't made many moves on this front yet, Lynch, Greene and Suckling I'd look to move on and probably keep the rest. I'd also delist Gardner but he seems to be an in favour player.
Trade/FA: Will be looking to move on their first round pick you'd assume and there should be plenty of opportunity to do so. Should look for another small forward as well, some younger guys should be available like Bedford and Spargo. Going for another KPD would be smart as well, perhaps one more lockdown orientated
Draft: Going to get Jamarra Ugle-Hagan and will have the chance to get McPherson and Raak late you'd assume. Should look for more mature agers at the back end or like for Melbourne some project players in positions of need.
West Coast
OOC's: Most signs point to them retaining most OOC players with Hutchings, Jetta and Ah Chee the ones that should be most on edge, I'd probably keep Jetta and move the other two on, as well as Venables but offering him ongoing support with his concussion issues.
Trade/ FA: Don't have a lot of currency, linked to Zac Langdon who will be a serviceable pickup. They should be looking to some WA youngsters potentially looking for a trade back home, if Jordan Clark officially wants out they should be all over it
Draft: Best available, there should be some valuable WA pickups available at their picks, a guy like Winder would be perfect as a versatile optional. Oliver Davis, Sam Berry, Charlie Lazzaro are all others that would be good additions
OOC's: Spargo, Bedford, Brown and Hore are the priority re-signings in my opinion, as guys that are all in that top 25 bracket or should be at the club. If they needed to get rid of one I think Spargo and Bedford would attract significant interest, Hore as well would be good for a club needing an injection of backline talent. Their other OOC players are all take or leave, none particularly excite me.
Trade/FA: Apparently leading the race for Ben Brown which is certainly one of their big needs as someone to support Weideman, a younger KPF wouldn't be bad either as a development player. They need some classy ball users through the middle or on the wing as well, so their interest in Isaac Smith is well placed, they could also consider Shaun Higgins as well. They should again look for a younger development sort in this role as both those guys wouldn't have long left
Draft: Probably won't have a lot of picks or any high picks, so some project athletic guys may be the best shout. guys like Connor Stone, Ollie Lord, Liam McMahon, Henry Smith as rawer prospects with high upside
Western Bulldogs
OOC's: Haven't made many moves on this front yet, Lynch, Greene and Suckling I'd look to move on and probably keep the rest. I'd also delist Gardner but he seems to be an in favour player.
Trade/FA: Will be looking to move on their first round pick you'd assume and there should be plenty of opportunity to do so. Should look for another small forward as well, some younger guys should be available like Bedford and Spargo. Going for another KPD would be smart as well, perhaps one more lockdown orientated
Draft: Going to get Jamarra Ugle-Hagan and will have the chance to get McPherson and Raak late you'd assume. Should look for more mature agers at the back end or like for Melbourne some project players in positions of need.
West Coast
OOC's: Most signs point to them retaining most OOC players with Hutchings, Jetta and Ah Chee the ones that should be most on edge, I'd probably keep Jetta and move the other two on, as well as Venables but offering him ongoing support with his concussion issues.
Trade/ FA: Don't have a lot of currency, linked to Zac Langdon who will be a serviceable pickup. They should be looking to some WA youngsters potentially looking for a trade back home, if Jordan Clark officially wants out they should be all over it
Draft: Best available, there should be some valuable WA pickups available at their picks, a guy like Winder would be perfect as a versatile optional. Oliver Davis, Sam Berry, Charlie Lazzaro are all others that would be good additions
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Hutchings look like getting a 1 year extension. Jetta and Vardy are on the chopping block along with AhChee dependent on List sizes. After watching Ebert on Friday night they seriously need to ensure Venables retires and lives a healthy life but they have made a submission to the AFL for a special category to retain him on the list. Like Paddy McCartin, who is supposedly making a comeback, he loos good now but just how severe are the risks.
Brander and Hickey have had enquiries according to the media over here, not sure what currency they hold. Brisbane supposedly enquiring about Jarrod Cameron. Maybe Hickey for Elijah Taylor would be seen as a win/win but doubt West Coast are willing to sully there so called "good guy" image and take a punt on someone whose reputation is not the best. Brander has asked for clarification over his role. Does he have what it takes to be the lead up CHF who gets the ball forward or is that Watermans role. Can't see him replacing Darling and Oscar Allen is a lock for the FF position when vacated by Kennedy. Doesn't bode well for Brander or the Eagles with a low draft pick possibly (Late 2nd Early 3rd) coming back for someone we rated highly. Can't see us having the currency for Clark or Geelong letting him go as they have Cockatoo, Constable and Narkle possibly moving on along with Harry Taylor, Selwood and Ablett. Langdon would be a good fit as he would fill a void of West Coast having very few players who are multi positional to rotate through the midfield but again do West Coast have the currency and is his name mentioned just because he's from Westralia. GWS have Langdon, O'Hallaron, Hately, Caldwell and Shipley all vying for midfield time along with all their stars. Will they have to let some go cheaply to fit into the list size/Salary cap changes and do any of those players want to move to the other side of the country?
Should West Coast make a play for Peter Wright? Could fill the void when Kennedy goes allowing Oscar Allen to settle into CHF. With Ryan, Cameron and possibly Rioli crumbing the forward line it'd make sense to have a tall forward.
West Coast needs MIDS. There is a massive gap in the 22 to 25 age category that will see them drop dramatically next year despite the dominance of Naitanui. I'd be looking at making enquiries about players like Fiorini, Brodie and Powell from Gold Coast, Cockatoo, Constable and Narkle from Geelong and O'Hallaron, Hately, Shipley and Langdon from GWS.
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Hickey seems likely to be moved on with the success of Vardy and Allen rotating through with Nic Nat and Williams showing promise in his few games. Brander I'll put down to media beat up, from all reports Eagles had no interest in involving him in the Kelly trade so I doubt one year later much has changed. Cameron is an interesting one, I rate him highly and assume West Coast do to, would cost a lot to get him out, but I guess if Brisbane see it as a need then they're in a spot to pay a lot without much consequence.
Langdon doesn't have much value imo, 4th round pick would get it done, he's 5th in line for the general/small forward role and even further down in a midfield role
Finn Gorringe had a good season at EF, winning their colts F&B from half back...with Shepherd hitting 30, the kid is a no nonsense sort with good skills and footy head....perhaps he could be a late pick for WCE....I know Walker is a Freo NGA, but would WCE be interested in his dash out of defence?
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I doubt Walker is available for the bid at that stage unless the Eagles move up the order, but if they got the opportunity I'd assume they put the bid in on Walker and Western given Joel could boost their quality of youth in the midfield. Gorringe is alright, I see him more a mid with passable skills, but he's that non nonsense type like you've said, that Eagles seem to get the best out of (Shuey in a sense), even Logan Young as a bigger body and WA kid they might look at
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To some degree yes, with Callow being a more traditional KPF and Baldwin more a lead up type, although I severely question the reliability of Baldwins knee, two injuries to the same ACL in 24 months, without making assumptions it suggests there's some structural issues there or the rehab wasn't good enough.
It'd be an interesting dynamic and not too dissimilar to the Richmond KPF combo of Lynch and Riewoldt imo, which has proven very successful
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It's hard to get read this year with most prospects, largely because communication or interaction with scouts/ NAB League list heads has been severely limited and that's generally where the news will come from, Baldwin is still seen as a top 15 prospect from draft watchers (from what I can tell) and on talent that's warranted, but I'd be scared of the knee injuries. Personally I'd be comfortable selecting him from 25 onwards, but I could see clubs with multiple higher end picks taking the punt from 15 on wards
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I for some reason thought I had already finished my little review summaries so here;s the next 3, I'll do Port, cats and tigers sometime sunday (or monday depending on how I'm, feeling)
Collingwood
OOC's: Appears they've re-signed or delisted a lot of these guys, with Mihocek and De Goey being the main two that remain in limbo. I'd give Mihocek the 500k for 3 years he's apparently asking for, I genuinely think that's a great deal considering his output. De Goey in my view is 450k-600k a year player, and the higher end of that is only because he brings people to games with his highlight reel ability, anything more and I'd be looking to move him on for a first rounder. Footywire has Appleby, Bosenvulagai, Wills and Lynch coming OOC as well, I'd probably re-sign all of those guys for minimal money for 2-3 years, none are world beaters but all offer good depth
Trade/FA: No strong links with Cameron seemingly nominating Geelong. Treloar is rumoured to be a trade bait for them, doesn't make sense to me unless it's a salary dump, I'd look to get a top 5 pick for him if I were Collingwood. I'd also move on Sier for an early 3rd for points for McInnes, who I'd say will be better than Sier is even in his first year. Peter Wright may be an option they look at for a tall forward, perhaps for a stop gap option they look at Mitch Brown
Draft: If they have picks before a Reef bid, Zach Reid and Nikolas Cox would have to be considered, a classy midfielder like Macrae or Carroll should be considered too
St Kilda
OOC's: Another side that has already done a lot of delistings and re-signings. Anyone left I'd keep for them as depth, no one stands out as delist material.
Trade/FA: Seems like Caldwell will nominate St Kilda which is a good move, they may look at getting another young KPD/KPF if one is available, not even necessarily young, just under 26ish
Draft: If all goes well they won't have their early draft pick as they should be going for some more quality targets. However some more midfield depth or KPP depth won't hurt, perhaps local lad Archie Perkins? possibly Cox or Reid
Brisbane
OOC's: Joyce, Eagles, C.Lyons are ones that I'd delist, none of been particularly impressive or proven they should stay on the list. They might be able to trade Wooller and Cox if they didn't see them in their future plans as well. Will be wanting to re-sign Martin for another year
Trade/FA's: They'll bring in Daniher to bolster their tall forward stocks, if a ruck presented themselves as an option they'd have to consider it. Apart from that they're looking pretty good, if the Treloar stuff eventuates in him requesting a trade they may look to bring him in, but he'd cost a lot trade and salary wise which seems counter productive
Draft: Best available for their first pick, and that second one should be Shannon Neal or Max Heath, which ever they rate higher as a future ruck prospect. Will likely pick up Blake Coleman as well from what I can tell
Collingwood
OOC's: Appears they've re-signed or delisted a lot of these guys, with Mihocek and De Goey being the main two that remain in limbo. I'd give Mihocek the 500k for 3 years he's apparently asking for, I genuinely think that's a great deal considering his output. De Goey in my view is 450k-600k a year player, and the higher end of that is only because he brings people to games with his highlight reel ability, anything more and I'd be looking to move him on for a first rounder. Footywire has Appleby, Bosenvulagai, Wills and Lynch coming OOC as well, I'd probably re-sign all of those guys for minimal money for 2-3 years, none are world beaters but all offer good depth
Trade/FA: No strong links with Cameron seemingly nominating Geelong. Treloar is rumoured to be a trade bait for them, doesn't make sense to me unless it's a salary dump, I'd look to get a top 5 pick for him if I were Collingwood. I'd also move on Sier for an early 3rd for points for McInnes, who I'd say will be better than Sier is even in his first year. Peter Wright may be an option they look at for a tall forward, perhaps for a stop gap option they look at Mitch Brown
Draft: If they have picks before a Reef bid, Zach Reid and Nikolas Cox would have to be considered, a classy midfielder like Macrae or Carroll should be considered too
St Kilda
OOC's: Another side that has already done a lot of delistings and re-signings. Anyone left I'd keep for them as depth, no one stands out as delist material.
Trade/FA: Seems like Caldwell will nominate St Kilda which is a good move, they may look at getting another young KPD/KPF if one is available, not even necessarily young, just under 26ish
Draft: If all goes well they won't have their early draft pick as they should be going for some more quality targets. However some more midfield depth or KPP depth won't hurt, perhaps local lad Archie Perkins? possibly Cox or Reid
Brisbane
OOC's: Joyce, Eagles, C.Lyons are ones that I'd delist, none of been particularly impressive or proven they should stay on the list. They might be able to trade Wooller and Cox if they didn't see them in their future plans as well. Will be wanting to re-sign Martin for another year
Trade/FA's: They'll bring in Daniher to bolster their tall forward stocks, if a ruck presented themselves as an option they'd have to consider it. Apart from that they're looking pretty good, if the Treloar stuff eventuates in him requesting a trade they may look to bring him in, but he'd cost a lot trade and salary wise which seems counter productive
Draft: Best available for their first pick, and that second one should be Shannon Neal or Max Heath, which ever they rate higher as a future ruck prospect. Will likely pick up Blake Coleman as well from what I can tell
Jacob Allison and Allen Christensen are likely to be delisted as well, Sam Skinner and Mitch Hinge possibilities, all 4 OOC this year.
Any intel on Spyvee about anywhere? Looks like has an AFL body already.
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OOC's: Of those that haven't been delisted or re-signed already I'd re-sign all of them, don't think they've got the draft capital to be going in with too list spots open.
Trade/ FA: Going forward I think they need a KPD (preferably best 22) and some more medium forwards to take pressure off of Robbie GRay as Butters and Rozee move more into the middle. Aliir Aliir and Fantasia are being targetted, both are good fits for their needs considering what currency they have to trade, preferably would be getting a less injury prone forward but again, little currency
Draft: Don't think they'll have any live picks, will be a match for Jones from 8-15 somewhere and will likely take Schoefield late
Geelong
OOC's: Okunbor, Kennerly, Schlensog, Close, Cockatoo, Parsons and Brownless are some that may be delisted, Kennerly I'd hope stays for a year and at least gets a debut to show what he's got, Cockatoo seems to have interest elsewhere a well so may be better off leaving regardless. The rest are re-signs imo
Trade/FA: Last night showed they need another midfielder or forward target to let Danger prosper in one role, so the acquisition of Jeremy Cameron is going to be vital for them. Objectively I think Cameron is worth an early and late first pick, so if they can get him for free or only 11+13 that's a win. Higgins also is being linked and would improve them going into next year
Draft: Best available, obviously with a good crop of Geelong Falcons local kids should be looked at where possible, Oliver Henry and Tanner Bruhn especially, then later on guys like Charlie Ham, Henry Walsh, Charlie Lazzaro and Cam Fleeton all have potential to add to their side
Richmond
OOC's: Going to be some bargain DFA pick ups from igers with the depth of their list. Turner, Eggmolese-Smith, Miller, English and Garthwaite I would expect not to get contracts, not until we see who they trade out, which looks like it might be Pickett and Markov
Trade/FA: Probably don't need much, if there is a surprise request home from a vic youngster they should be sniffing around there but the depth they have is exceptional and it's hard to see them aggressively looking to bring anyone in
Draft: Winger and KPP would be my two targets, Macrae and Callow as a double swoop would be exceptional for example, but best available should be the general approach
That concludes my very poor list reviews, I'll do a pre-trade period 2 round phantom at some point this week to get a base overview of what I think clubs should be looking at
OOC's: Of those that haven't been delisted or re-signed already I'd re-sign all of them, don't think they've got the draft capital to be going in with too list spots open.
Trade/ FA: Going forward I think they need a KPD (preferably best 22) and some more medium forwards to take pressure off of Robbie GRay as Butters and Rozee move more into the middle. Aliir Aliir and Fantasia are being targetted, both are good fits for their needs considering what currency they have to trade, preferably would be getting a less injury prone forward but again, little currency
Draft: Don't think they'll have any live picks, will be a match for Jones from 8-15 somewhere and will likely take Schoefield late
Geelong
OOC's: Okunbor, Kennerly, Schlensog, Close, Cockatoo, Parsons and Brownless are some that may be delisted, Kennerly I'd hope stays for a year and at least gets a debut to show what he's got, Cockatoo seems to have interest elsewhere a well so may be better off leaving regardless. The rest are re-signs imo
Trade/FA: Last night showed they need another midfielder or forward target to let Danger prosper in one role, so the acquisition of Jeremy Cameron is going to be vital for them. Objectively I think Cameron is worth an early and late first pick, so if they can get him for free or only 11+13 that's a win. Higgins also is being linked and would improve them going into next year
Draft: Best available, obviously with a good crop of Geelong Falcons local kids should be looked at where possible, Oliver Henry and Tanner Bruhn especially, then later on guys like Charlie Ham, Henry Walsh, Charlie Lazzaro and Cam Fleeton all have potential to add to their side
Richmond
OOC's: Going to be some bargain DFA pick ups from igers with the depth of their list. Turner, Eggmolese-Smith, Miller, English and Garthwaite I would expect not to get contracts, not until we see who they trade out, which looks like it might be Pickett and Markov
Trade/FA: Probably don't need much, if there is a surprise request home from a vic youngster they should be sniffing around there but the depth they have is exceptional and it's hard to see them aggressively looking to bring anyone in
Draft: Winger and KPP would be my two targets, Macrae and Callow as a double swoop would be exceptional for example, but best available should be the general approach
That concludes my very poor list reviews, I'll do a pre-trade period 2 round phantom at some point this week to get a base overview of what I think clubs should be looking at
Tom Joyce isn’t out of contract. We typically give our kids four years on the list before delisting.
Our recruiters rated Joyce as a 17 year old, his top age year and 2 years in the system have been marred by hip injuries. If he overcomes this, he might yet show he’s a player.
If Adelaide get pick 2 for Crouch, do they take McDonald and Thilthorpe, or is one likely to be available at pick 4?
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