Draft Watcher PMBangers 2020 Draft Thread

[PMBangers]

Phantom Draft Round 1 (updated 9/12)

 

[PMBangers]

Mitch O’Neill was AA in his bottom age year and didn’t go in the main draft and Sharp/Gould where touted top 10 but went 2nd round. It’s great but need more than that to be a guarantee high pick

Ok? I'm not calling him a guaranteed pick by any means, but going off of previous games/ footage (including the champs) he's a very good prospect, I don't think he'll go top 10 either, likely finds a bid around the same region Gould and Sharp got selected

 

[eDPS]

Ok? I'm not calling him a guaranteed pick by any means, but going off of previous games/ footage (including the champs) he's a very good prospect, I don't think he'll go top 10 either, likely finds a bid around the same region Gould and Sharp got selected

No not at all, it was more of a general counter point to the whole AA thing

 

[PMBangers]

SO um, that Caleb Poulter kid can play hey

Didn't get to watch a whole lot of SA footy on the weekend, however from what I did see of the seniors Lachlan Jones impressed me with his marking especially. From looking at stats (surface level I know, but best indication I've got until I rewatch games) Tariek Newchurch and Bailey Chamberlain looked to put on good displays.

Was wondering how everyone feels SA starting up earlier than other states will affect things, obviously more opportunity to impress recruiters/ draft watchers alike but could also work against some of those higher end prospects, where the question usually is "Why shouldn't we take them"

 

[eDPS]

SO um, that Caleb Poulter kid can play hey

Didn't get to watch a whole lot of SA footy on the weekend, however from what I did see of the seniors Lachlan Jones impressed me with his marking especially. From looking at stats (surface level I know, but best indication I've got until I rewatch games) Tariek Newchurch and Bailey Chamberlain looked to put on good displays.

Was wondering how everyone feels SA starting up earlier than other states will affect things, obviously more opportunity to impress recruiters/ draft watchers alike but could also work against some of those higher end prospects, where the question usually is "Why shouldn't we take them"

Certainly helps the SA prospects as recruiters are watching that very same footage as it’s played, if only WA could do something similar.

 

[PMBangers]

Certainly helps the SA prospects as recruiters are watching that very same footage as it’s played, if only WA could do something similar.

WA football being made easy for interstate watchers? Now that's just unreasonable

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

WA football being made easy for interstate watchers? Now that's just unreasonable

Dont be silly, that would cost too much, how would we afford to pay Sumich 1k an hour if we did that...

 

[PMBangers]

My favourite WA boys are back
They did a second Logan McDonald one a couple of weeks ago as well

 

[PMBangers]

Post Round 6 First Round Phantom attempt (abuse tolerated and understood)
Not neccessarily where I rate players but if a draft happened today I don't think this would be too far off. The more I look over this draft the more I like it, think there's a good variation of player types at the top.
Everyone seems to have very different rankings compared to previous years so it made it hard to get a consensus of where players should be approximately

Nik Cox almost went to North Melbourne on basis of needs, but thought best available was the way to go for top 5

Yes I know Zach Reid should be in here, and Essendon almost took him. Also considered Tom Powell, Zavier Maher and Lachlan Jones heavily at certain points but pretty happy with whats come out here overall

This was a great demonstration of how poor my knowledge of playing lists is currently as well.

briztoon you got 1 midfielder, hope thats alright

 

[Golumless]

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Post Round 6 First Round Phantom attempt (abuse tolerated and understood)
Not neccessarily where I rate players but if a draft happened today I don't think this would be too far off. The more I look over this draft the more I like it, think there's a good variation of player types at the top.
Everyone seems to have very different rankings compared to previous years so it made it hard to get a consensus of where players should be approximately

Nik Cox almost went to North Melbourne on basis of needs, but thought best available was the way to go for top 5

Yes I know Zach Reid should be in here, and Essendon almost took him. Also considered Tom Powell, Zavier Maher and Lachlan Jones heavily at certain points but pretty happy with whats come out here overall

This was a great demonstration of how poor my knowledge of playing lists is currently as well.

briztoon you got 1 midfielder, hope thats alright

I like the naivety with us not bidding for JUH first up.

Our recruiters absolutely love a cheeky bid. No chance they turn up the opportunity.

 

[Virgin Dog]

I like the naivety with us not bidding for JUH first up.

Our recruiters absolutely love a cheeky bid. No chance they turn up the opportunity.

Twomey put it well. Teams who win the spoon need to sell the idea that their Pick 1 is the guy who will drag the club from the depths. If you guys fail a bid on JUH, it just means you're saying "we wanted the best guy, but we got the backup instead".

For the sake of the club, the player and the fans, Adelaide will not bid on JUH with Pick 1, even if he appears to be the best option

 

[Golumless]

Twomey put it well. Teams who win the spoon need to sell the idea that their Pick 1 is the guy who will drag the club from the depths. If you guys fail a bid on JUH, it just means you're saying "we wanted the best guy, but we got the backup instead".

For the sake of the club, the player and the fans, Adelaide will not bid on JUH with Pick 1, even if he appears to be the best option

That sounds like excusing incompetence to me. It is imperative of all clubs to do what they can to weaken opponents within reason. If a kid is an NGA and touted as a pick 1, you bid on that kid to at least weaken the draft hand of another club. End of story, thanks for playing.

Pick 2 still sells just as much hope as pick 1 at the end of the day (as irrelevant as that is). You've got one of the top-end talents of the draft after all.

 

[PMBangers]

That sounds like excusing incompetence to me. It is imperative of all clubs to do what they can to weaken opponents within reason. If a kid is an NGA and touted as a pick 1, you bid on that kid to at least weaken the draft hand of another club. End of story, thanks for playing.

Pick 2 still sells just as much hope as pick 1 at the end of the day (as irrelevant as that is). You've got one of the top-end talents of the draft after all.

I just struggle to see Adelaide doing it, a club in the gutter currently doesn't want to give the impression they missed out on the player they wanted.
And it's probably not relevant to your argument but I have Thilthorpe above JUH, so it'd be bidding to be annoying imo

 

[Virgin Dog]

That sounds like excusing incompetence to me. It is imperative of all clubs to do what they can to weaken opponents within reason. If a kid is an NGA and touted as a pick 1, you bid on that kid to at least weaken the draft hand of another club. End of story, thanks for playing.

Pick 2 still sells just as much hope as pick 1 at the end of the day (as irrelevant as that is). You've got one of the top-end talents of the draft after all.

You say that, but even just look what happened with Tom Green last year. Clubs are hesitant to bid on academy picks in the first place. Some, like Adelaide and Melbourne, have a history of bidding on players more often than other clubs, but no one has ever bid on a player at Pick 1.

Even in 2014, Isaac Heeney was a child prodigy at multiple sports, yet was bid on at Pick 2 instead of Pick 1 - I'm sure people will argue over who was the better prospect at the time out of Heeney and McCartin, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Saints didn't even consider Heeney with their pick.

JUH won't be bid on at Pick 1. He seems to be largely the consensus number 1 right now, but I cannot see any clubs touching him until Pick 2

 

[briztoon]

View attachment 911339
Post Round 6 First Round Phantom attempt (abuse tolerated and understood)
Not neccessarily where I rate players but if a draft happened today I don't think this would be too far off. The more I look over this draft the more I like it, think there's a good variation of player types at the top.
Everyone seems to have very different rankings compared to previous years so it made it hard to get a consensus of where players should be approximately

Nik Cox almost went to North Melbourne on basis of needs, but thought best available was the way to go for top 5

Yes I know Zach Reid should be in here, and Essendon almost took him. Also considered Tom Powell, Zavier Maher and Lachlan Jones heavily at certain points but pretty happy with whats come out here overall

This was a great demonstration of how poor my knowledge of playing lists is currently as well.

briztoon you got 1 midfielder, hope thats alright

Gees my rep here .

I don’t mind the Eddie Ford selection from a talent perspective.

But Dumesny?!? We have a lot of medium flankers already. Hope he has serious midfield potential.

 

[PMBangers]

Gees my rep here .

I don’t mind the Eddie Ford selection from a talent perspective.

But Dumesny?!? We have a lot of medium flankers already. Hope he has serious midfield potential.

All love ❤

I think Dumesnys flank experience gets him into the Brisbane side earlier than as a pure midfielder and he works his way onto a wing after a few years. Lot of desirable traits and I think enough there to turn him into a Fagan winger

 

[eDPS]

Gees my rep here .

I don’t mind the Eddie Ford selection from a talent perspective.

But Dumesny?!? We have a lot of medium flankers already. Hope he has serious midfield potential.

Again you will get Dumesny and like it!

 

[briztoon]

Again you will get Dumesny and like it!

C’mon, we we traded in two hbf’ers last year, then drafted two more.

We’ve got Alex Witherden and Noah Answerth sitting in the reserves, unable to get a game at the moment.

And you want us to draft another flanker?

 

[Giant Strides]

C’mon, we we traded in two hbf’ers last year, then drafted two more.

We’ve got Alex Witherden and Noah Answerth sitting in the reserves, unable to get a game at the moment.

And you want us to draft another flanker?

Maybe those guys will leave then?

 

[eDPS]

C’mon, we we traded in two hbf’ers last year, then drafted two more.

We’ve got Alex Witherden and Noah Answerth sitting in the reserves, unable to get a game at the moment.

And you want us to draft another flanker?

He can play on the wing and I’d also try him in the guts aswell, again your so hard to please

 

[Davo-27]

C’mon, we we traded in two hbf’ers last year, then drafted two more.

We’ve got Alex Witherden and Noah Answerth sitting in the reserves, unable to get a game at the moment.

And you want us to draft another flanker?

Would you want to take Kaine Baldwin and risk it?

 

[Davo-27]

View attachment 911339
Post Round 6 First Round Phantom attempt (abuse tolerated and understood)
Not neccessarily where I rate players but if a draft happened today I don't think this would be too far off. The more I look over this draft the more I like it, think there's a good variation of player types at the top.
Everyone seems to have very different rankings compared to previous years so it made it hard to get a consensus of where players should be approximately

Nik Cox almost went to North Melbourne on basis of needs, but thought best available was the way to go for top 5

Yes I know Zach Reid should be in here, and Essendon almost took him. Also considered Tom Powell, Zavier Maher and Lachlan Jones heavily at certain points but pretty happy with whats come out here overall

This was a great demonstration of how poor my knowledge of playing lists is currently as well.

briztoon you got 1 midfielder, hope thats alright

I think you're right, IF Adelaide finish last with pick 1, I think it's nearly guaranteed they go Thilthorpe with JUH being bid on at 2, but any other club could be more open and pick between JUH and Phillips or Thilthorpe, that's my guess

 

[PMBangers]

Would you want to take Kaine Baldwin and risk it?

Baldwin, Maher and Powell were the 3 others I debated between, still unsure what to make of Baldwin now with 2 surgeries and no footy in 2 seasons

 

[PMBangers]

I think you're right, IF Adelaide finish last with pick 1, I think it's nearly guaranteed they go Thilthorpe with JUH being bid on at 2, but any other club could be more open and pick between JUH and Phillips or Thilthorpe, that's my guess

I still think Hollands could be there abouts, so realistically Thiltorpe, Phillips or Hopllands for me, just don't see any benefit in bidding on JUH at 1

 

[Hob07]

That sounds like excusing incompetence to me. It is imperative of all clubs to do what they can to weaken opponents within reason. If a kid is an NGA and touted as a pick 1, you bid on that kid to at least weaken the draft hand of another club. End of story, thanks for playing.

Pick 2 still sells just as much hope as pick 1 at the end of the day (as irrelevant as that is). You've got one of the top-end talents of the draft after all.

Each year the number 1 draft pick is awarded a $10,000 NAB investment portfolio, by bidding on the dogs academy player you are in affect paying the dogs and there academy player $10,000 outside the salary cap whilst denying the player you select an additional financial reward.

 

[andleanback]

Each year the number 1 draft pick is awarded a $10,000 NAB investment portfolio, by bidding on the dogs academy player you are in affect paying the dogs and there academy player $10,000 outside the salary cap whilst denying the player you select an additional financial reward.

On the other hand it could lower the pressure that’s put on Thilthorpe (presuming he gets taken at 1), as we’ve seen in the past the extra pressure that gets put on the number 1 pick. Plus you can imagine the stories sections of the media will be writing comparing players, if JUL turns into the player we think he will. If you let the bulldogs take him at 1 after bidding, it could make his career a whole lot easier in the development years.