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PMBangers

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Why no heights and weights listed? Worried about hight and fat shaming?

Weights are generally kept private anyway, it's not really something I think is overly relevant anyway tbh. Heights are on NAB League app, so available but irritatingly inconvenient
 

Lore

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Weights are generally kept private anyway, it's not really something I think is overly relevant anyway tbh. Heights are on NAB League app, so available but irritatingly inconvenient

They used to publish the weight of male draft prospects.
Usually gives you some idea of how much development they have left I think. Like the rule of thumb is height in centimetres - 100 = AFL playing weight in kilos. If they're quick but they're 70kg dripping wet and 192cm, they're probably going to lose their pace when they enter the system or have spine/foot/leg problems and soft-tissue injuries. If they're 192 and 88, they're probably going to come in round 1 and translate fairly well whatever they were doing before.

I totally get not publishing it for juniors or AFLW though, given the sensitivities around body image and the fact they're neither of them in full-time professional environments yet. And I guess the clubs would have this info even if it isn't available to us plebs on the outside.
 

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Usually gives you some idea of how much development they have left I think. Like the rule of thumb is height in centimetres - 100 = AFL playing weight in kilos. If they're quick but they're 70kg dripping wet and 192cm, they're probably going to lose their pace when they enter the system or have spine/foot/leg problems and soft-tissue injuries. If they're 192 and 88, they're probably going to come in round 1 and translate fairly well whatever they were doing before.

I totally get not publishing it for juniors or AFLW though, given the sensitivities around body image and the fact they're neither of them in full-time professional environments yet. And I guess the clubs would have this info even if it isn't available to us plebs on the outside.

I know Will Gould got no end of s**t for being 106kg at the draft combine.
 

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Hey PM Bangers, Is the Anthony Munkara love more the idea of what he could be or is he actually showing the talent required to meet the level of an AFL player?
 

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When is the under-18s championships and are they televised?
First game is tomorrow, don't know where the streams will be outside of the AFL Website
Hey PM Bangers, Is the Anthony Munkara love more the idea of what he could be or is he actually showing the talent required to meet the level of an AFL player?
He hasn't got the endurance level to have a sustained impact on games yet, so at the moment it's a lot if excitement around the glimpses he's showing, rather than actually tearing games apart
 

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He hasn't got the endurance level to have a sustained impact on games yet, so at the moment it's a lot if excitement around the glimpses he's showing, rather than actually tearing games apart

Champs obviously answers a lot of questions (re talent up a level), but still, very, very unlikely to fall past 40? :sadv1:
 

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Champs obviously answers a lot of questions (re talent up a level), but still, very, very unlikely to fall past 40? :sadv1:
There's next to nothing about his footy that'd hold him out of the Top 40, and with what feels like a lack of X-Factor forwards in the comp atm i wouldn't be shocked to see him go top 20
 

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What do you guys think of this years draft in terms of the top 3-5 talent?
 

PMBangers

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What do you guys think of this years draft in terms of the top 3-5 talent?
Top 3 is really good, 5-10 is decent without being outstanding in comparison to other drafts
 

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Hi PM Bangers can you tell me why you havent mentioned Reuben Ginbey from east perth ?

He is the star and captain of his private school team as a mid for Wesley, plays for east perth seniors at half back

He is lightning quick uses the footy well and is so hard and tough at the footy

2.85 for 20 metres sprint

Cant believe there hasnt been much talk about him
You were right. I watched Ginbey against a fairly decent Subiaco reserves side. He is top 30-40 easy. Seeing him against players of a more junior ilk it was pretty clear. He can play. I watched him in league previously but never really got it.
 
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PMBangers how well would any of the KPFs projected for the first round translate to KPD? Dogs definitely more in the market for KPD but unless Dunkley or another big exit nets us a very early pick I imagine Buslinger won’t be on the board for our first pick.

Also how does Buslinger compare to Josh Gibcus and Denver G-B as early KPDs from recent drafts, both style and readiness to play?
 

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whose your top 3?
Wardlaw, Ashcroft and Busslinger atm
PMBangers how well would any of the KPFs projected for the first round translate to KPD? Dogs definitely more in the market for KPD but unless Dunkley or another big exit nets us a very early pick I imagine Buslinger won’t be on the board for our first pick.

Also how does Buslinger compare to Josh Gibcus and Denver G-B as early KPDs from recent drafts, both style and readiness to play?
Cadman and Jefferson are the two I think could be KPDs if required, Cadman would fit in to a role like Harry Himmelberg I imagine as someone with a good read and mark of the ball but maybe not super one-on-one, similar to Jefferson but he's one I think could develop into a one-on-one role a lot better. But I'm confident enough that both will be capable KPFs and shouldn't need to transition to a KPD role.

I think Busslinger would be capable of playing round 1 like Gibcus, he doesn't have the raw athleticism of Gibcus but is a smart player which allows him to intercept well, and he's probably more damaging with his disposal and offers more in transition. I'd say he's pretty similar to DGB however, but again I like his disposal a bit more heading forward, but DGB is probably better in one-on-ones
 

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Wardlaw, Ashcroft and Busslinger atm

Cadman and Jefferson are the two I think could be KPDs if required, Cadman would fit in to a role like Harry Himmelberg I imagine as someone with a good read and mark of the ball but maybe not super one-on-one, similar to Jefferson but he's one I think could develop into a one-on-one role a lot better. But I'm confident enough that both will be capable KPFs and shouldn't need to transition to a KPD role.

I think Busslinger would be capable of playing round 1 like Gibcus, he doesn't have the raw athleticism of Gibcus but is a smart player which allows him to intercept well, and he's probably more damaging with his disposal and offers more in transition. I'd say he's pretty similar to DGB however, but again I like his disposal a bit more heading forward, but DGB is probably better in one-on-ones
Cadman has caught my eye from the first time I seen him, any thoughts on Gillbee and Hustwaite?
 

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Cadman has caught my eye from the first time I seen him, any thoughts on Gillbee and Hustwaite?
Yeah I like both, Gillbee's versatility is a big draw to him obviously, just does the fundamentals in each role well enough that it suggests he could legitimately fit in anywhere at AFL level with some consistency.
Hustwaites got unreal hands in close and composure for a guy his size, but I wonder what role he fits into at the next level given he doesn't really play to his height. If it's as a midfielder he may not have the burst to be a super damaging stoppage player, and if it's as a KPD he may not have the proven physicality, so he's one to watch heading into the second half of the season as to where he's deployed
 

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Wardlaw, Ashcroft and Busslinger atm

Cadman and Jefferson are the two I think could be KPDs if required, Cadman would fit in to a role like Harry Himmelberg I imagine as someone with a good read and mark of the ball but maybe not super one-on-one, similar to Jefferson but he's one I think could develop into a one-on-one role a lot better. But I'm confident enough that both will be capable KPFs and shouldn't need to transition to a KPD role.

I think Busslinger would be capable of playing round 1 like Gibcus, he doesn't have the raw athleticism of Gibcus but is a smart player which allows him to intercept well, and he's probably more damaging with his disposal and offers more in transition. I'd say he's pretty similar to DGB however, but again I like his disposal a bit more heading forward, but DGB is probably better in one-on-ones
How about Phillipou ?
 

PMBangers

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How about Phillipou ?
Has some ridiculously eye catching traits, speed and agility from the contests are amazing and his overhead marking is something a lot of players can only dream of, he's certainly pushing up but I haven't watched him for about a month so want to see how he's progressing with my own eyes, but I'm confident to say he's SA's top talent currently and if he can show more of the same against stronger opposition in the Champs there's no reason to think he won't be in that group
 

walterhobbs

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Hi PM, with the Crows looking to have a top 5 pick who is the mids most likely to be available at our pick and who would most suit what we need?
 

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Bangers. You have one job for me today. Confirm the big cheeze will slide to the hawks at pick 6? Surely GWS don't take a small forward right 😅😅😅
 

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