Draft Expert PMBangers 2023 Draft Thread

[Sphynx]

Yeh so hes 2 cm shorter

Be interesting to see who the last player his size or smaller was taken in the first round

Caleb Daniel must feel his draft position shouldve been better if were now looking at Watson as a certain top 10 pick

Caleb might, if he was anywhere close to the athlete Watson is.

He’s not.

 

[Keystone agony]

Caleb might, if he was anywhere close to the athlete Watson is.

He’s not.

Calebs a pretty high end athlete

 

[Sphynx]

Calebs a pretty high end athlete

Nowhere near Watson, not even close.

Watson would be in the best 20 overall athletes of the last 10 drafts.

Expect him to almost podium in just about every combine athletic test.

 

[Footy Heads]

Where do you see Will Brown, the VIC Metro skipper going at the moment? Shows a lot of potential! Also where would Harry De Mattia find himself?

 

[Keystone agony]

Nowhere near Watson, not even close.

Watson would be in the best 20 overall athletes of the last 10 drafts.

Expect him to almost podium in just about every combine athletic test.

Do they still do the beep test, he wont touch daniels

 

[Sphynx]

Do they still do the beep test, he wont touch daniels

He’s had very decent Yo-Yo tests in the Coates League testing.

Endurance really isn’t what I’m talking about with a player like him.

His speed, agility, power, vertical blows Caleb’s out of the water.

He’s a genuinely very explosive footballer, Daniel is not.

He’s a natural goal kicker, Daniel was a midfielder.

Watson is averaging 6-7 goals per game in the APS at the moment?

Clubs will pay up for the prospect of the next Stephen Milne, Charlie Cameron or Kosi Pickett.

Daniel was never like any of those players. So it’s really not at all surprising Watson will go top 10 and Daniel went where he went.

 

[Keystone agony]

He’s had very decent Yo-Yo tests in the Coates League testing.

Endurance really isn’t what I’m talking about with a player like him.

His speed, agility, power, vertical blows Caleb’s out of the water.

He’s a genuinely very explosive footballer, Daniel is not.

He’s a natural goal kicker, Daniel was a midfielder.

Watson is averaging 6-7 goals per game in the APS at the moment?

Clubs will pay up for the prospect of the next Stephen Milne, Charlie Cameron or Kosi Pickett.

Daniel was never like any of those players. So it’s really not at all surprising Watson will go top 10 and Daniel went where he went.

Endurance is a big part of being an athlete

Daniel also has a far better kick, can go both sides and was very good in the champs including a 27 disp, 8 tackle, 3 goal game

But were getting sidetracked, my initial point is he needs to break history. I cant remember anyone smaller than him taken 1st round for a while? Or even first 2 rounds

 

[Sphynx]

Endurance is a big part of being an athlete

Daniel also has a far better kick, can go both sides and was very good in the champs including a 27 disp, 8 tackle, 3 goal game

But were getting sidetracked, my initial point is he needs to break history. I cant remember anyone smaller than him taken 1st round for a while? Or even first 2 rounds

My point is, there hasn’t been someone like him.

So it’s pointless trying to think of one.

The closest player in size and athleticism in recent times is Pickett and he went at pick 12.

Watson has a million more runs on the board than Pickett did in his junior career.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Nick Watson is a freak, he's the same height (171) as Pickett, so it's not an issue. Yet he is unlike anything you'd see at AFL level with his leap, agility and speed being some of the best you'll see. It's on another level.

We haven't seen him develop up the ground as much, and there are things you can look at from a pessimism point of view but his strengths are clear, and clearly in the top echelon.

 

[Keystone agony]

My point is, there hasn’t been someone like him.

So it’s pointless trying to think of one.

The closest player in size and athleticism in recent times is Pickett and he went at pick 12.

Watson has a million more runs on the board than Pickett did in his junior career.

But alot more fully developed than Kozi

I have him in that 8-13 range at the moment

 

[Sphynx]

But alot more fully developed than Kozi

I have him in that 8-13 range at the moment

What do you mean “fully developed”?

 

[Dewyyyyy]

But alot more fully developed than Kozi

I have him in that 8-13 range at the moment

This is why you are not an AFL recruiter.

 

[Keystone agony]

What do you mean “fully developed”?

As in already well developed. Well built

Sortve man child

The opposite to say a Darcy Wilson, whos light framed, light muscle build, going to add plenty of bulk in the next few years

 

[PMBangers]

Where do you see Will Brown, the VIC Metro skipper going at the moment? Shows a lot of potential! Also where would Harry De Mattia find himself?

Brown I need to do a bit more of a deep dive with some vision, but I've liked what I've seen of him far, good accumulator and user through the midfield and impactful when resting up forward, the positives tick a lot of boxes for a goal kicking midfielder.

De Mattia I've touched on in the last few pages, essentially I need to see more of him but explosive contested mids are pretty sought after nowadays so could see him pushing into the first round bracket

 

[Supersuns]

Seems like it's time to add 'and friends' to the thread title again =(

Fantastic, I love reading the opinions of people who have watched 3 championship games and now know everything about the players.

 

[eDPS]

Daniel also has a far better kick, can go both sides

I don’t agree with this, Watson can do some special things by foot and certainly a longer kick than Daniel, Watson can also kick on both sides.

 

[Mofra]

Endurance is a big part of being an athlete

Daniel also has a far better kick, can go both sides and was very good in the champs including a 27 disp, 8 tackle, 3 goal game

But were getting sidetracked, my initial point is he needs to break history. I cant remember anyone smaller than him taken 1st round for a while? Or even first 2 rounds

Maybe Caleb's success (and Kosi Pickett) show recruiters that smaller players can still thrive in the system, so they're less likely to mark down Watson this year?

 

[Nat Fyfe]

Fantastic, I love reading the opinions of people who have watched 3 championship games and now know everything about the players.

Why did you have to go and drag Knightmare into this?

 

[weltschmerz]

Why did you have to go and drag Knightmare into this?

Needs another 24-year-old SANFL player who's obviously a top ten pick

 

[briztoon]

He’s had very decent Yo-Yo tests in the Coates League testing.

Endurance really isn’t what I’m talking about with a player like him.

His speed, agility, power, vertical blows Caleb’s out of the water.

He’s a genuinely very explosive footballer, Daniel is not.

He’s a natural goal kicker, Daniel was a midfielder.

Watson is averaging 6-7 goals per game in the APS at the moment?

Clubs will pay up for the prospect of the next Stephen Milne, Charlie Cameron or Kosi Pickett.

Daniel was never like any of those players. So it’s really not at all surprising Watson will go top 10 and Daniel went where he went.

I’ve said it before, at afl level, his speed and agility will be an asset, not so much his vertical, because he’ll be giving away too much height against most of his direct opponents.

And APS stats really don’t mean much, as it’s below talent league and national championships in terms of pure talent.

Think of sports as a pyramid, the higher you go, the more concentrated the talent, skills and athleticism.

You bring up Charlie Cameron as a comparison. Cameron is 183cm and might sit on a head once every two or three games. He’s certainly not doing it every game.

Cameron’s biggest assets are his agility and speed, and Cameron is the fastest player on our list.

 

[Keystone agony]

Maybe Caleb's success (and Kosi Pickett) show recruiters that smaller players can still thrive in the system, so they're less likely to mark down Watson this year?

Definitely think small players can be under rated

Gulden and Butters flying the flag most helps his case for top 10

 

[Keystone agony]

I’ve said it before, at afl level, his speed and agility will be an asset, not so much his vertical, because he’ll be giving away too much height against most of his direct opponents.

And APS stats really don’t mean much, as it’s below talent league and national championships in terms of pure talent.

Think of sports as a pyramid, the higher you go, the more concentrated the talent, skills and athleticism.

You bring up Charlie Cameron as a comparison. Cameron is 183cm and might sit on a head once every two or three games. He’s certainly not doing it every game.

Cameron’s biggest assets are his agility and speed, and Cameron is the fastest player on our list.

Cameron let alone being way bigger

Is also a lot quicker and agile than Watson, which is no knock as hes the top of the AFL in this regard

 

[Sphynx]

Cameron let alone being way bigger

Is also a lot quicker and agile than Watson, which is no knock as hes the top of the AFL in this regard

No he's not. Stop making these statements regarding things like his athleticism and kicking, when they are frankly wrong.

Seriously, are you talking about the right player here?

Watson has a 2.92 20m and a 8.1 second agility run.

Watson has absolutely electric speed combined with top 1% agility.


It would have got him 4th in the 20m and 2nd in the agility run at last years national combine. He would have finished 2nd in the vertical and top 10 in the Yo-Yo in that groups preseason testing.

 

[Sphynx]

I’ve said it before, at afl level, his speed and agility will be an asset, not so much his vertical, because he’ll be giving away too much height against most of his direct opponents.

And APS stats really don’t mean much, as it’s below talent league and national championships in terms of pure talent.

Think of sports as a pyramid, the higher you go, the more concentrated the talent, skills and athleticism.

You bring up Charlie Cameron as a comparison. Cameron is 183cm and might sit on a head once every two or three games. He’s certainly not doing it every game.

Cameron’s biggest assets are his agility and speed, and Cameron is the fastest player on our list.

Congrats, whats your point? I wasn't even talking about his vertical.

I was talking about his general athletic profile, which is the elite of the elite.

The APS stats do mean something when you are breaking records in the same competitions the top prospects have played in for 2 decades.

I'm comparing him historically, against the likes of Max King, Cyril Rioli, Tom Hawkings and Chris Judd. Not just this current draft class.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Cameron let alone being way bigger

Is also a lot quicker and agile than Watson, which is no knock as hes the top of the AFL in this regard

No he isn’t.