Draft Expert PMBangers 2023 Draft Thread

[uncleoatmeal]

PMBangers what's the knock on Will Patton? Havent seen him mentioned much in Draft rankings and I've seen a fair few posters saying only positive things.

 

[PMBangers]

PMBangers what's the knock on Will Patton? Havent seen him mentioned much in Draft rankings and I've seen a fair few posters saying only positive things.

Doesn't do a lot when the ball isn't in the air imo which leaves him vulnerable against opposition that are clean at ground level, and he's unlikely to be filling a key post at the next level so those are the sorts he'd be playing on

 

[geelongrecruit5]

And as a treat out of boredom, here's a 2 round Phantom draft I made immediately post trade period. I have very little idea of list needs so apologies if you got a player a spot you're stocked for. Missing picks are because of matched bids, or in Melbourne's case because I think they'll only take 2 players

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Awesome effort Bangers. What’s happened to my man Logan Morris. Had high hopes for him early in the year, now he has slipped significantly. His numbers in terms of goals are almost elite in the last 2 years. Potential rookie at this stage do you think?

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Different sort of a question DR but who's your No. 1 prospect per birth month?

 

[PMBangers]

Awesome effort Bangers. What’s happened to my man Logan Morris. Had high hopes for him early in the year, now he has slipped significantly. His numbers in terms of goals are almost elite in the last 2 years. Potential rookie at this stage do you think?

You seem to have watched him more than anyone, perhaps you could tell me

Different sort of a question DR but who's your No. 1 prospect per birth month?

No clue, I'll put myself #1 for March though

 

[geelongrecruit5]

Awesome effort Bangers. What’s happened to my man Logan Morris. Had high hopes for him early in the year, now he has slipped significantly. His numbers in terms of goals are almost elite in the last 2 years. Potential rookie at this stage do you think?

I have Bangers, along with all the other KPF’s such as Walter, Caddy, Reid, Weatherill, Lloyd just to name a few. The issue I found with Morris this year was that he only averaged 11 possessions although kicked 30 which was a great output. Based on that it tells me that he plays predominately deep inside 50. Yes, he did work hard at times up the ground but just not enough for my liking, didn’t feature well in the testing either which is a slight concern. I’m confident that he’ll go before Weatherill and Lloyd with a prediction inside 35. I know the Cats are looking at one of these forwards and maybe might land Morris.

 

[SumTingWong]

Are Moir and Weckert probably more likely to be available in the rookie draft?

 

[PMBangers]

Are Moir and Weckert probably more likely to be available in the rookie draft?

Moir I really doubt slips to the rookie even with his poor year, a club is 100% going to back themselves to make something of his talent at some point.

Weckert more chance for the rookie than the ND

 

[The_General#1]

Moir I really doubt slips to the rookie even with his poor year, a club is 100% going to back themselves to make something of his talent at some point.

Weckert more chance for the rookie than the ND

I'd be very surprised if Moir makes it to pick 30. The kid can play! I think the mistake people continue to make is they tend to look at the negatives but the reality is most AFL recruiters will look at what they can do vs what their deficiencies are. There are guys that get no mention in Twomey's top 30 but I guarantee you will go top 30...but what do I know

 

[PMBangers]

I'd be very surprised if Moir makes it to pick 30. The kid can play! I think the mistake people continue to make is they tend to look at the negatives but the reality is most AFL recruiters will look at what they can do vs what their deficiencies are. There are guys that get no mention in Twomey's top 30 but I guarantee you will go top 30...but what do I know

Who else do you GUARANTEE will go top 30 that Twomey doesn't have in there?

 

[Adnico26Parker]

Hi PMBangers, what are your thoughts on Mardini as a late or rookie pick as a KPD? His Coates League stats look pretty good.

Say in comparison to the CL stats of Murphy?

 

[The_General#1]

Who else do you GUARANTEE will go top 30 that Twomey doesn't have in there?

If I told you that would ruin all the excitement draft night

 

[geelongrecruit5]

If I told you that would ruin all the excitement draft night

Cmon General give us something

 

[flipper83]

Thanks for your efforts bangers.

Just a question on Watson, on draft central it mentions he could get his tackle numbers up but I'm just wondering if he's a good tackler.
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struggles to stop bigger players but it doesn't seem to effect Kozzie Pickett too much.

Also, what's Sanders like defensively?
I know it's usually not a big focus at u18 level but does he work hard to shut down his man going the other way and is he a strong tackler?

 

[geelongrecruit5]

If I told you that would ruin all the excitement draft night

On a serious note, Twomey is the man! His predictions are pretty much spot on give or take 1 or 2. He definitely gets some insight from recruiters. Cal is the face of the draft along with Sheehan, they can’t be seen to be way off the mark.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

On a serious note, Twomey is the man! His predictions are pretty much spot on give or take 1 or 2. He definitely gets some insight from recruiters. Cal is the face of the draft along with Sheehan, they can’t be seen to be way off the mark.

We can’t wait until the Saturday before the draft for info

 

[PMBangers]

Hi PMBangers, what are your thoughts on Mardini as a late or rookie pick as a KPD? His Coates League stats look pretty good.

Say in comparison to the CL stats of Murphy?

No combine invite is generally a sign it's not going to happen, but even he he dud get an invite I'd say he'd be a late rookie at best, just not enough to his game imo

Thanks for your efforts bangers.

Just a question on Watson, on draft central it mentions he could get his tackle numbers up but I'm just wondering if he's a good tackler.
Caleb Daniel struggles to stop bigger players but it doesn't seem to effect Kozzie Pickett too much.

Also, what's Sanders like defensively?
I know it's usually not a big focus at u18 level but does he work hard to shut down his man going the other way and is he a strong tackler?

Watson will always have that size disadvantage so I wouldn't be asking him to stream down Darcy Moore for holding the ball, but against players that'll likely be his direct opponent it's fine without being remarkable.

Sanders has good defensive game from stoppage and covers a lot of ground to breach the D50 arc, around the ground he can lack at times but it's nothing that most midfielders don't do

 

[PMBangers]

If I told you that would ruin all the excitement draft night

It's a pretty safe call regardless, think 20-45 is going to see so many different talent orders that players not in most top 40s will get taken

 

[Yoda_]

PM, what's the knocks on Kade De La Rua? seems a good type to take. In a deeper draft seems like a rookie prospect, would he still represent decent value deeper in the 3rd round onwards?

Will Brown is the other I like the idea of at the next level not sure where he fits but can't under appreciate his year.

 

[Footy Heads]

PM, what's the knocks on Kade De La Rua? seems a good type to take. In a deeper draft seems like a rookie prospect, would he still represent decent value deeper in the 3rd round onwards?

Will Brown is the other I like the idea of at the next level not sure where he fits but can't under appreciate his year.

I agree both Will brown and Kade De La Rue could be great value at the back end of the draft for a club.

 

[PMBangers]

PM, what's the knocks on Kade De La Rua? seems a good type to take. In a deeper draft seems like a rookie prospect, would he still represent decent value deeper in the 3rd round onwards?

Will Brown is the other I like the idea of at the next level not sure where he fits but can't under appreciate his year.

I like De La Rue a lot as someone that I can see being a best 23 regular without tearing the world apart, think I said it mid year but there's a bit of Sheezel about his forward play in how he gets score assists or puts the ball to the advantage of team mates in dangerous spots. I think his overall athleticism lacks a little bit and will hold him back from being more than an average player at the next level, and having two pretty major injuries as a junior gives me a little bit of hesitancy as well

I think Browns best chance to make it at the level is as a third tall up forward, possibly a link up player, it'll give him a bit of freedom to almost play like a midfielder with less one-on-ones

 

[FlyingV]

Hi PMBangers what is Sanders athletic profiling like? Is he a strong runner? Can’t find any mention of this anywhere. Thanks!

 

[Jazny]

Cal on Gettable said Schoenmaker could go as high as 15 and was unlucky to be outside his top 30. I guess that means there is a lot of unevenness in how clubs rate him. I wonder how much his half year suspension combined with Tassie 2028 plays into that. Is it worth giving up a high pick for a taller player who will take a little time to develop with questions about his off field behaviour who could just end up going back to Tassie if he does make it at AFL level?

 

[Mofra]

Cal on Gettable said Schoenmaker could go as high as 15 and was unlucky to be outside his top 30. I guess that means there is a lot of unevenness in how clubs rate him. I wonder how much his half year suspension combined with Tassie 2028 plays into that. Is it worth giving up a high pick for a taller player who will take a little time to develop with questions about his off field behaviour who could just end up going back to Tassie if he does make it at AFL level?

He's considered the best kick in the draft so some clubs will really back themselves in to turn him into their 'get out' player

 

[PMBangers]

Hi PMBangers what is Sanders athletic profiling like? Is he a strong runner? Can’t find any mention of this anywhere. Thanks!

He runs out games consistently well so I've got no reason to question his endurance or running power there. His testing for the 20m sprint wasn't outstanding in pre season nut was still above average for a midfielder, so if he can be taught how to drive his legs put of congestion better I think he'll be seen as a bit better athletically.

Cal on Gettable said Schoenmaker could go as high as 15 and was unlucky to be outside his top 30. I guess that means there is a lot of unevenness in how clubs rate him. I wonder how much his half year suspension combined with Tassie 2028 plays into that. Is it worth giving up a high pick for a taller player who will take a little time to develop with questions about his off field behaviour who could just end up going back to Tassie if he does make it at AFL level?

Interviewed Arie at the combine and he said majority of clubs (up to that point) hadn't grilled him that much about the off field stuff in comparison to some of his on field habits. For the most part I think clubs were impressed with how he responded to the incident and managed to make the best of the situation.
Of all the Tassie kids he's the one I think will be least susceptible to any go home risk, seems really keen to get out ASAP