Poker passing fad or long term?

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Hey just a question that ive been thinking about....

Do you think poker will sort of slowly wane away into nothing? I am aware that it has been around for ages but just thinking how long will the poker fad last for just your standard joe average. I know i love the game and really can see myself playing it for a long time. But will its popularity eventually die down meaning less internet poker player traffic?
 
Of course it's a fad.

It will be here one day, no interest the next (except the die hards)

To show it on ESPN just goes to show how much of a joke it really has become.

Would the same interest be generated if that Aussie didn't win the poker tourament?
 

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Swifty_446 said:
Of course it's a fad.

It will be here one day, no interest the next (except the die hards)

To show it on ESPN just goes to show how much of a joke it really has become.

Would the same interest be generated if that Aussie didn't win the poker tourament?
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Shut your trap idiot.

Poker has been televised for a few years now. Long before the aussie won the poker tournament. Now run along to what ever interests you.
 
I'd say its different from Australia to the rest of the world. THe only place they have big games is in Melbourne at Crown once a year, in the US they have a WSOP event 42 times a year, or something like that, and some are as cheap as $2500US, so the chance to being a star over-night is a much bigger alure also.

In-fact, I'd say some Australians are going over purely to play these events, if I had a spare $5000 I know i would.
 
Internet sites like PartyPoker and TV coverage have given it a boost, but there have always been and will always be a growing core of people who play and enjoy the game. Prize money and tournament sizes may go up and down but it won't die completely.
 
I've just turned 18, and i got into poker late last year at ultimatebet.com and i hooked the guys at my school well before Joe Hachem, I am probably 1 of the few who actually new the WSOP was on at that time and that Joe was at the final table. After his success theres been a boom in Australia, with every 2nd shop selling something to do with poker, but its been strong in America for a few years, since they started televising usuing cameras so the audience could see there cards and the commentators were able to make comments. This revolutionised (that aint a word) poker, it allowed the audience to see the players cards and let them watch what they did with it.
Sure Poker wont be as big as it currently is in Australia now again, but it aint just gonna pass by either, it will stay strong IMO, Texas Holdem will be the preferred family game to play, forget about monoploy, poker is more fun and can actually teach u something.
All that has to happen is to show poker on free to air at reasonable times, not 11.30. foxtel show it at numerous times and i believe that poker would have captivated those who watch it on foxtel more than free to air.
anyway i've expressed my opinion on the matter.
 
Swifty_446 said:
Of course it's a fad.

It will be here one day, no interest the next (except the die hards)

To show it on ESPN just goes to show how much of a joke it really has become.

Would the same interest be generated if that Aussie didn't win the poker tourament?
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I was playing poker before that guy won the wpt. I think it will only be a fad for those who have only become interested lately.
 
Of course, mainstream interest will wane over time, but who cares? It'll be around.

Of course it's a fad.

It will be here one day, no interest the next (except the die hards)

To show it on ESPN just goes to show how much of a joke it really has become.

Would the same interest be generated if that Aussie didn't win the poker tourament?
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How has it become a joke? People enjoy playing the game, and watching the game, thus it attracts interest. If you don't like the game, don't troll the board. Just shut up.

Of course poker has caught on here more because of Hachem, but poker has been booming in the US for years now. And it's only getting bigger. Because it's great TV. I know of a lot of people who watch the WPT, even though they don't have an idea what's going on.

I was playing poker before that guy won the wpt. I think it will only be a fad for those who have only become interested lately.
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Hopefully it will attract more serious players, though. I came to playing poker over a year ago (so yes, well before Hachem) and currently play every poker game imaginable, not just No Limit Hold'em. Hopefully people don't just pick up on it because No Limit is popular. Oh, and he won the World Series, not the WPT.
 
Crosby87 said:
Of course, mainstream interest will wane over time, but who cares? It'll be around.



How has it become a joke? People enjoy playing the game, and watching the game, thus it attracts interest. If you don't like the game, don't troll the board. Just shut up.

Of course poker has caught on here more because of Hachem, but poker has been booming in the US for years now. And it's only getting bigger. Because it's great TV. I know of a lot of people who watch the WPT, even though they don't have an idea what's going on.



Hopefully it will attract more serious players, though. I came to playing poker over a year ago (so yes, well before Hachem) and currently play every poker game imaginable, not just No Limit Hold'em. Hopefully people don't just pick up on it because No Limit is popular. Oh, and he won the World Series, not the WPT.
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Ignore him mate, he obviously has no idea.
That aussie winning that tourny had no influence on me whatsoever, as I was playing online ages before he won it.
 

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Poker will stay around but the numbers playing will fall.
As an example when i bought my Poker chips 18 months ago i could not buy anything except plastic crap in Australia.
I mangaed to buy 4 sets from the States at a good price and re-listed 3 of them on Ebay and tripled my money.
Now you can buy 500 chip sets from Kmart for under $100
WPT being televised has dragged in heaps of new players.
The fish can't keep playing because allthough they don't know it, they cannot win in the long run.
As the Yanks say they are "Dead Money"
All we can do is don't scare them off too quick and let them drag in the occasional pot, to keep them playing.
Turn up to Crown any Friday or Saturday night and reap the rewards of good ol "Aussie Joe Hachem"
This bloke has increased my winnings by over 100%.
For the exact same reason i never bag bad play at the table, even if the fish drags in the pot with cards he should have folded.
Lets hope another Aussie wins next year and that the WPT starts being shown at prime time on channels 7, 9 and 10.
 
For the exact same reason i never bag bad play at the table, even if the fish drags in the pot with cards he should have folded.
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Lol, you should, soon bad players will mean poker will become a version of black jack.

Lets hope another Aussie wins next year and that the WPT starts being shown at prime time on channels 7, 9 and 10
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I don't think that will happen. Until I win the World Series, that is. ;)
 
Crosby87 said:
How has it become a joke? People enjoy playing the game, and watching the game, thus it attracts interest. If you don't like the game, don't troll the board. Just shut up.
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The thread posed the question, I answered it. Of course poker will remain over the years, but this sudden "fad" interest wont last long. It seems everyone thinks they're a card shark these days. Everyone wants to make money, and see this as a way of making easy money, so of course the bandwagon is going to be full. I can't say it's a good thing for the community, but oh well, at least we can rever the winners.

It's disgraceful that ESPN air it too, it should be on the ladies channel, or the gamble your life away channel.
 
The thread posed the question, I answered it. Of course poker will remain over the years, but this sudden "fad" interest wont last long. It seems everyone thinks they're a card shark these days. Everyone wants to make money, and see this as a way of making easy money, so of course the bandwagon is going to be full. I can't say it's a good thing for the community, but oh well, at least we can rever the winners.

It's disgraceful that ESPN air it too, it should be on the ladies channel, or the gamble your life away channel.
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1) As I said, if you don't like the game, go play monopoly or video games. Stop trolling you idiot.

2) You obviously have tried the game and failed miserably. Don't take it out on the game if you're not good enough.

3) If you're a good, serious player, it's a very easy way to make money - but a lot of people don't play for the money. Hey, they may actually love playing the game, you idiot.

4) What are you, a hardcore Christian? I'm sure people can make their own decisions as to whether they want to gamble their money away or not. I would rather have people play poker (which does take skill to win - I don't who you are, sit down at a table with me and I'll take your money in fifteen minutes no matter how lucky you are) than to sit in front of a machine pumping dollars in it and going home empty handed.

Most people aren't robots - they can make their own decisions, stop trying to make them for them. And even then, a lot of people play the game for play money. You don't HAVE to gamble. Stop being ignorant. And a lot of people also play for the social aspect - but you wouldn't know anything about that, you're too busy trolling boards and expressing ignorant opinions (which, unfortunately, you're entitled to).

And the next time you bet on football or horse racing, call yourself a hyprocite.

5) If you don't want to watch poker on ESPN - don't watch. Just simply turn back to play school and have the time of your life ;)

6) Stop trolling the board, you idiot. I may have forgotten to stress that.
 
what somebody said here is right

once all the noobs lose their money quickly, the numbers will fall, but there will always be a core base, whether that increases or not remains to be seen
 
Crosby87 said:
1) As I said, if you don't like the game, go play monopoly or video games. Stop trolling you idiot.

2) You obviously have tried the game and failed miserably. Don't take it out on the game if you're not good enough.

3) If you're a good, serious player, it's a very easy way to make money - but a lot of people don't play for the money. Hey, they may actually love playing the game, you idiot.

4) What are you, a hardcore Christian? I'm sure people can make their own decisions as to whether they want to gamble their money away or not. I would rather have people play poker (which does take skill to win - I don't who you are, sit down at a table with me and I'll take your money in fifteen minutes no matter how lucky you are) than to sit in front of a machine pumping dollars in it and going home empty handed.

Most people aren't robots - they can make their own decisions, stop trying to make them for them. And even then, a lot of people play the game for play money. You don't HAVE to gamble. Stop being ignorant. And a lot of people also play for the social aspect - but you wouldn't know anything about that, you're too busy trolling boards and expressing ignorant opinions (which, unfortunately, you're entitled to).

And the next time you bet on football or horse racing, call yourself a hyprocite.

5) If you don't want to watch poker on ESPN - don't watch. Just simply turn back to play school and have the time of your life ;)

6) Stop trolling the board, you idiot. I may have forgotten to stress that.
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1. Regardless of whether I like it or not, I offered my opinion on the current state of affairs.

2. I actually haven't tried the game in a casino, I don't like throwing my money away.

3. If you're a good, serious player it's easy to make money. Gee, I've never heard someone that gambles say that :eek: It'll catch up with you eventually, the system isn't set up so you win win win win. It's a game of chance more than skill.

4. I'm not a christian, but I see the effects of gambling. You see 1 winner on TV, but you don't see the 100's who ruin their lives. But as you said, people can think for themselves, but I still don't like it.

5. I like to watch SPORT on ESPN, not card games, it's so lame that they've stooped to this level. As I said, it should be on it's own channel, or the lifestyle channel, not a sport channel. How cheap do they want to make the word "sport"?

6. I'm not trolling, just offering my opinion on the question posed.
 
Swifty_446 said:
1. Regardless of whether I like it or not, I offered my opinion on the current state of affairs.

2. I actually haven't tried the game in a casino, I don't like throwing my money away.

3. If you're a good, serious player it's easy to make money. Gee, I've never heard someone that gambles say that :eek: It'll catch up with you eventually, the system isn't set up so you win win win win. It's a game of chance more than skill.

4. I'm not a christian, but I see the effects of gambling. You see 1 winner on TV, but you don't see the 100's who ruin their lives. But as you said, people can think for themselves, but I still don't like it.

5. I like to watch SPORT on ESPN, not card games, it's so lame that they've stooped to this level. As I said, it should be on it's own channel, or the lifestyle channel, not a sport channel. How cheap do they want to make the word "sport"?

6. I'm not trolling, just offering my opinion on the question posed.
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1. True and fair enuf.

2. Havent tried so you obviously have no idea, therefore you shouldnt actually comment.

3. Um no winning is much more skill than chance. You gotta know when to hold em, know when to fold em.

4. Actually if people are playing professionally they never ruin there lives. These people never think of the actual money involved its the only way to be a good player.

5. I actually agree it probably shouldnt be on ESPN but it is, as is the World Spelling Bee contest. It has been on ESPN for quite some time though and the WSOP has been televised for a long long time.

6. However if you have not tried it, you shouldnt comment.
 
1. Regardless of whether I like it or not, I offered my opinion on the current state of affairs.

2. I actually haven't tried the game in a casino, I don't like throwing my money away.

3. If you're a good, serious player it's easy to make money. Gee, I've never heard someone that gambles say that It'll catch up with you eventually, the system isn't set up so you win win win win. It's a game of chance more than skill.

4. I'm not a christian, but I see the effects of gambling. You see 1 winner on TV, but you don't see the 100's who ruin their lives. But as you said, people can think for themselves, but I still don't like it.

5. I like to watch SPORT on ESPN, not card games, it's so lame that they've stooped to this level. As I said, it should be on it's own channel, or the lifestyle channel, not a sport channel. How cheap do they want to make the word "sport"?

6. I'm not trolling, just offering my opinion on the question posed.
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1-2. How can you offer an opinion on the game when you haven't tried it? Thus, your opinion is invalid.

3. To say it's a game of chance more than skill is ignorant. That's why there are professional players and amateur players. Why do pros win more events than others and repeatedly make final tables? If it was a game decided by chance, there would be a different winner every time. Not the case. You don't know your facts, so once again your argument is invalid.

4. Up to 50-100 people in events make money. It's called finishing IN THE MONEY. There is a PRIZE POOL, so it's not "one winner, everybody else losers". Once again, YOU DO NOT KNOW YOUR FACTS. And everybody who enters the tournaments you see on TV haven't ruined their lives - they have A LOT OF MONEY WON FROM PLAYING YEARS OF GOOD, WINNING POKER. They can afford the buy-in, otherwise they wouldn't play.

The only people who have problems gambling with poker are people who take all their savings to a table at a casino and gamble it away. Tournament poker is different. Know your facts.

So just because you do not like gambling, other people can't gamble responsibly? Do you drink alcohol? A lot of people don't like alcohol, and it causes just as many (if not more) problems as gambling does. If you go out and grab a beer from a bar tonight, my friend, you are a hyprocrite.

You cannot "drink responsibly" and disallow or not want people to have the right to gamble responsibly. Once again your argument is flawed and down right ridiculous.

I also hope you don't smoke or have ever driven over the speed limit.

5. Poker is not only on ESPN. It's on FOX8 in Australia, the Travel Channel in the US, and even NBC in the US, and heck, even Channel 10 here.

ESPN has shown the World Series of Poker for decades in the US. Only recently has it been shown here. They have two ESPN channels in America. A number of legistations have been passed over time discarding poker from being illegal in casinos. Why? Because it's a game of skill. There is an element of chance - but there is also chance in other sports, just as there is in every day life. Ever seen a bad bounce in football that leads to opponents goal?

Fact - poker is a game of skill. You have admitted to never trying the game. If we played poker right now, I have every confidence that I will beat you 10 games out of 10. If poker was a game of chance, that would be near impossible.

It's so lame that they've stopped to this level? What, to get people to watch ESPN?? You idiot, people are only going to watch poker because they want to watch poker. ESPN don't need to "stoop to any level". They are the biggest cable sports channel in the world - they were the first. There has been a demand for poker for three years now because people have enjoyed playing and watching the game. If you don't, well I'm sad to hear that, but just shut up and watch rugby or polo something. Easily fixed.

And how cheap do they want to make the word sport? Have you ever watched ESPN in your life? Hot-dog eating contests? Log rolling? WOOD CHOPPING? CHILD SPELLING BEES???

7. You are trolling. You have come to this board for one reason only - to bash the game. If you don't like the game, that's fine, but move on. You have not contributed to any other thread on this board, so there's no reason for you to be here.
 
I should clarify something:

I DO NOT consider poker a sport, as I have said on these boards before. It IS gambling, and unfortunately, for some people, it doesn't lead to some bad circumstances.

However, to suggest that people can make up their own minds to responsibly gamble is idiotic.

I take a certain amount out of my pay that I allocate to play poker with. I can honestly say I have made a profit every time for months now, but some people aren't so lucky. I would advise people only to gamble what they can.

If you bust out, walk away.

But, I'm not going to say to ESPN - "you can't show poker because it's not a sport." Have you seen MTV lately? How much music have you seen on there? It is, after all, supposedly MUSIC TELEVISION, yet all I seem to see are reality shows. ESPN can show what they like. I would prefer them not to show crap like bull-riding, but I don't complain about it.
 
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