I don't understand watching WSOP and other televised events and seeing people get so excited when they slam down quads or a straight flush. I admit I can sometimes let off steam after a bad beat, but very rarely do I get excited when winning a hand. I turn over my hand the same way every time, whether it's a royal or just 3rd pair.
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Agreed, but the fact they are playing in such a huge event with life changing money at stake gives them a bit of leniency though imo
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Slow-rolls.
Not the epic douche variety when someone does it with the stone-cold nuts just to tilt their opponent, since these are very rare. I'm talking about the frequent low-level ones where people are determined to be the last to reveal their hand at showdown even when their hand is almost certainly a winner. eg limped family pot that is checked all the way through every street and the guy who's gone runner-runner for top two-pair waits for 5 other players to show first.
Not the epic douche variety when someone does it with the stone-cold nuts just to tilt their opponent, since these are very rare. I'm talking about the frequent low-level ones where people are determined to be the last to reveal their hand at showdown even when their hand is almost certainly a winner. eg limped family pot that is checked all the way through every street and the guy who's gone runner-runner for top two-pair waits for 5 other players to show first.
slow rolls actually need to be penalised imo
beyond bad etiquette
beyond bad etiquette
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Awful floor rulings that show no feel for the game and (particularly in Australian casinos) a love of killing hands, which should be a last resort. The one that really peeves me is when a bettor mucks their hand thinking everyone else has folded but someone still has cards - bettor's hand ruled dead even though cards were very obviously retrievable, bet returned and pot shipped to the other player. Seen this happen at both Burswood and Skycity Adelaide.
I did this last week. Some guy was all in with SFA and I completely forgot about him and myself and another player had a decent sized pot ourselves.
Luckily they said it was ok (APL free league) but told me if I do it in cash then it's classed as a fold.
This may not be 100% correct, it was a few years ago, but I was all over it at the time.
Former Crown TD Jonno Pittock made a ruling at the final table of the Main Event of either the Melb Champs or Vic Champs. I think they were down to 3 or 4 players and someone shoves pre. Round to the BB who peels one card at a time. he says "First card is an Ace!". He peels the second card, announces "Call!" and flips up two Aces. He wins the hand, can't recall if he had the other player covered or not, and Jonno gives the BB an orbit penalty for announcing that he had an Ace! There was much discussion about this at the time on PokerNetwork.
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You'd have been saved by the tournament rule that all hands must be turned up at showdown if a player is all-in. But yeah, killing hands in that situation in either tournament or cash makes no sense whatsoever if the player's hand can be retrieved before there is subsequent action.
The worst one I saw was at Burswood where there were 3 players to the flop, player A bets, player B (me) folds, before player C can act A pushes her cards about 1 inch over the betting line and at least 2 feet from any object on the table. A's hand ruled dead, her flop bet returned and C wins the pot without even having to act on the flop. This was an ANZPT satellite too so this ruling affected every remaining player.
Thats a pretty horrid ruling, and a good reason why I try and avoid seats 1 and 10.
It didnt use to bother me too much before, but recently I am getting super tilted by some of the 6th street banter after a hand.
The one that tilted me the most (Im deliberately being vague because some people have read this comments and it has got me in a bit of trouble in the past). We get to the river, villian bets, I jam for value. Villian tank calls with what was the next best hand (admittedly, I had a lot of hands better then his in my range) and eventually calls. I roll my hand, he rolls his and wins the pot.
He later tells me it was a good attempt of a bluff, he nearly folded, which made me rage a little inside.
It didnt use to bother me too much before, but recently I am getting super tilted by some of the 6th street banter after a hand.
The one that tilted me the most (Im deliberately being vague because some people have read this comments and it has got me in a bit of trouble in the past). We get to the river, villian bets, I jam for value. Villian tank calls with what was the next best hand (admittedly, I had a lot of hands better then his in my range) and eventually calls. I roll my hand, he rolls his and wins the pot.
He later tells me it was a good attempt of a bluff, he nearly folded, which made me rage a little inside.
hmmm ... http://bit.ly/171gfDS <--- youtube video I didn't want to embed
NB: Matusow stacked off in the previous hand
Thats poor form
I had someone say to me "nice hand" after I showed what I thought was the best hand then he goes "nearly as good as mine" after 5 or so seconds
Nearly knocked him out
Nearly knocked him out
Deeb has said in an interview that he mostly did it because it was for TV and they'd been encouraged to provide entertainment. He also said he's mates with Matusow and (as he said on the clip) didn't think it would tilt him as much as it did.
I inadvertently slow-rolled a guy in a tourney in Vegas. I had AA and he pushed aipf. I had an absolute brain-fart and asked how much he had. I apologised profusely when I realised what I'd done, although he didn't seem too bothered by it.
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Slow rolling with friends can be fun
I 4bet shipped tens, other guy 5bet ships and person left to act tanks for about 15 seconds and mutters "what could you guys have?" Like he was really pained then eventually gives the "I can't fold" and calls with aces. Later said something about not knowing what the flop was etc
I hate bitches who can't lose a hand without having a passive jab at the winner etc. this game turns grown men into little bitches
I 4bet shipped tens, other guy 5bet ships and person left to act tanks for about 15 seconds and mutters "what could you guys have?" Like he was really pained then eventually gives the "I can't fold" and calls with aces. Later said something about not knowing what the flop was etc
I hate bitches who can't lose a hand without having a passive jab at the winner etc. this game turns grown men into little bitches
+1
Im not going to pretend Im as pure as snow, because Im not (usually its more of a smirk and a giggle to no-one in particular when I get shown an "interesting" hand tho) but really people HTFU.
Not sure whether I should out the guy or not, but there is one older guy at Burswood who is absolutely horrible when it comes to taking beats with class.
He lost one flip yesterday and was left muttering under his breathe that he couldnt beat the "mole" in seat 2, which was overheard and caused two separate spots to cash out, which sucked.
The fact this person IME isn't that great at poker (he is a bit nitty, can't really hand-read, and struggles to really think above the second level, which was shown when he put someone on AA in a 3bet pot when the other player overcalled closing the action, and thus can very rarely have AA in that hand.
Im not going to pretend Im as pure as snow, because Im not (usually its more of a smirk and a giggle to no-one in particular when I get shown an "interesting" hand tho) but really people HTFU.
Not sure whether I should out the guy or not, but there is one older guy at Burswood who is absolutely horrible when it comes to taking beats with class.
He lost one flip yesterday and was left muttering under his breathe that he couldnt beat the "mole" in seat 2, which was overheard and caused two separate spots to cash out, which sucked.
The fact this person IME isn't that great at poker (he is a bit nitty, can't really hand-read, and struggles to really think above the second level, which was shown when he put someone on AA in a 3bet pot when the other player overcalled closing the action, and thus can very rarely have AA in that hand.
people who play against keep on playing hands wrong and getting there money in so bad and keep on getting rewarded for making bad plays.
eg tonight... KK UTG, blinds 500/1000 raise to 3000 get 4 callers. Pot = 12,500
flop comes 8 7 5 rainbow, great flop for KK... I bet 7500, get re reaised by mid pos to 15,000, so i'm not putting on the nuts 6 9! or a set.. put him on top pair with A. Turn comes 9. another great card for me since I'm not putting him on a 6. So i check (with 30,000 odd k behind to try and get a Cbet on the turn from him) and he does bet 17,000, I shove, he snaps obviously with a stack behind him. He rolls A 8, exactly what I put him on. River card comes an A.
bad run continues.
eg tonight... KK UTG, blinds 500/1000 raise to 3000 get 4 callers. Pot = 12,500
flop comes 8 7 5 rainbow, great flop for KK... I bet 7500, get re reaised by mid pos to 15,000, so i'm not putting on the nuts 6 9! or a set.. put him on top pair with A. Turn comes 9. another great card for me since I'm not putting him on a 6. So i check (with 30,000 odd k behind to try and get a Cbet on the turn from him) and he does bet 17,000, I shove, he snaps obviously with a stack behind him. He rolls A 8, exactly what I put him on. River card comes an A.
bad run continues.
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lol
Playing one of my usual super-micro stakes tournies today (55c) and again we have cries of "fish" in the chat box. FFS people it costs less than a dollar to play; what sort of play do you expect??
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think you answered your own question, and addressed who is calling who what.
Went in Friday night in the little 1/3 to start the night off easy, started easy with a $100 stack and quickly got to $300 with only two people on the table monstering me.
Get dealt bullets and raise $13, 4 callers which didnt really worry me too much.
Flops dealt 5H,6S,KS. I'm in decent position next to button so its bet to $10 and comes around to me. I dont raise hoping that keeps aggression off me.
Turns dealt with a 6 of Diamonds, bet is $15 comes to me. I raise to $30, two callers.
Rivers dealt 2 of Hearts, first to act raises to $50 which gets me thinking may have a trips or possible two pair. Everyone else folds, he never looked comfortable with flop or turn which makes me think possible over bet on weaker hand. I throw out the straight as he was paying of massive bets to see it.
He had the straight and decided to ridicule my game for the next 30 minutes. Got to love Crown sometimes.
Get dealt bullets and raise $13, 4 callers which didnt really worry me too much.
Flops dealt 5H,6S,KS. I'm in decent position next to button so its bet to $10 and comes around to me. I dont raise hoping that keeps aggression off me.
Turns dealt with a 6 of Diamonds, bet is $15 comes to me. I raise to $30, two callers.
Rivers dealt 2 of Hearts, first to act raises to $50 which gets me thinking may have a trips or possible two pair. Everyone else folds, he never looked comfortable with flop or turn which makes me think possible over bet on weaker hand. I throw out the straight as he was paying of massive bets to see it.
He had the straight and decided to ridicule my game for the next 30 minutes. Got to love Crown sometimes.
Playing on a $1/3 the other night and preflop 2 people paid blinds, gets around to a player who then bets $65. Everyone obviously folds.
On a $1/3 table whats the point really? You've already stated you have Aces or Kings. Only thing calling you is Aces or Kings, they now know what you have and you dont exactly know what they have. Anyone else agree with these tactics? A guy on the table defended his actions by saying he probably dislikes Aces and didnt want to get busted with them, which is fair enough. But you still have the best preflop hand and still want to make it value worthy for people to call dont you?
On a $1/3 table whats the point really? You've already stated you have Aces or Kings. Only thing calling you is Aces or Kings, they now know what you have and you dont exactly know what they have. Anyone else agree with these tactics? A guy on the table defended his actions by saying he probably dislikes Aces and didnt want to get busted with them, which is fair enough. But you still have the best preflop hand and still want to make it value worthy for people to call dont you?
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Big difference if its 65 all in,or 65 with say 200 behind.
If, as is standard with 1/3 everyone's limped and I look down at ak or pocket 10s. I'm all in for 65.
