Current Wiembilla Shootings * The FBI arrests an Arizona man

[Kurve]

While the discussion of motives can't be avoided, please remember this isn't the place to promote support for conspiracy theories. Thanks.

 

[geoffjennings79]

Not sure if this has been posted but this absolutely cooked. Every video from the trains former YouTube channel.

Watched about 30 seconds, against my own better judgement. They were a long way down the rabbit hole, and kept digging.

Sad that two young police officers lost their lives trying to follow up on a missing person - looks like the Trains had all been missing for a very long time already, and nothing was ever bringing them back.

 

[craffles]

Watched about 30 seconds, against my own better judgement. They were a long way down the rabbit hole, and kept digging.

Sad that two young police officers lost their lives trying to follow up on a missing person - looks like the Trains had all been missing for a very long time already, and nothing was ever bringing them back.

Yeah I got about 20 minutes in and gave up. It made no sense to me which I’m glad

 

[Royces Hart]

The daughter didn’t do herself many favours last night on ACA.

When the reporter said that it’s fair to say they didn’t like police, she counters with “no that’s not fair to say, I think they had a lot of respect for the police, they didn’t respect the police officers that jumped over the fence.”

The reporter replies that people don’t have a right to shoot people that walk onto their property, which was met with “lots of farmers would argue differently.”

Wheh talking about why this happened abd getting answers, the reporter asks if she thinks she’ll ever get the answers, she replies quite agitated “no because the people that had the answers were shot in the head.”

This will sound harsh but I hope she is on some kind of police watch list.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

The daughter didn’t do herself many favours last night on ACA.

When the reporter said that it’s fair to say they didn’t like police, she counters with “no that’s not fair to say, I think they had a lot of respect for the police, they didn’t respect the police officers that jumped over the fence.”

The reporter replies that people don’t have a right to shoot people that walk onto their property, which was met with “lots of farmers would argue differently.”

Wheh talking about why this happened abd getting answers, the reporter asks if she thinks she’ll ever get the answers, she replies quite agitated “no because the people that had the answers were shot in the head.”

This will sound harsh but I hope she is on some kind of police watch list.

There’s loyalty to family, then there’s living in fantasyland

 

[Kurve]

The daughter didn’t do herself many favours last night on ACA.

When the reporter said that it’s fair to say they didn’t like police, she counters with “no that’s not fair to say, I think they had a lot of respect for the police, they didn’t respect the police officers that jumped over the fence.”

The reporter replies that people don’t have a right to shoot people that walk onto their property, which was met with “lots of farmers would argue differently.”

Wheh talking about why this happened abd getting answers, the reporter asks if she thinks she’ll ever get the answers, she replies quite agitated “no because the people that had the answers were shot in the head.”

This will sound harsh but I hope she is on some kind of police watch list.

I didn't expect that. She sounded quite level headed in the trailer.

 

[craffles]

Important to remember that journos are scum and selectively edit s**t to paint the right picture. Not defending the trains actions just that the daughters words may have been taken out of context deliberately

 

[PatsFitztrick]

Important to remember that journos are scum and selectively edit s**t to paint the right picture. Not defending the trains actions just that the daughters words may have been taken out of context deliberately

Found this short doco on YouTube. It has some details I had not heard before.

 

[craffles]

Found this short doco on YouTube. It has some details I had not heard before.

Will give it a watch in the morning, cheers

 

[Kurve]

Found this short doco on YouTube. It has some details I had not heard before.

With the opening in the first few seconds, Gareth Train says 'they have to kill us' twice.

The Trains manipulated the situation and over time, in to one where they MADE it happen.

 

[modul8]

https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/crime/train-family-police-shooting-in-wieambilla-declared-a-religious-terror-attack/news-story/de279e03a1e8139dd4350e16b95669b9

 

[Kurve]

https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/crime/train-family-police-shooting-in-wieambilla-declared-a-religious-terror-attack/news-story/de279e03a1e8139dd4350e16b95669b9

I think there's political dimensions to the attack as well but it seems investigations have found religious extremism to be the foundation.

From your link:

Police have declared the fatal ambush on four young police officers a religiously motivated terror attack, and the Train family who carried out the shooting Christian extremists.

 

[Kurve]

"We don't believe this attack was random or spontaneous," Deputy Police Commissioner Linford said.

"We do believe it was an attack directed at police.

"There was significant evidence of advanced preparation and planning."

Police found camouflaged hiding places at the property, six firearms, CCTV, mirrors on trees, and a trap door under the house.

Deputy Commissioner Linford said police had been investigating Stacey Train's diary, as well as the trio's texts, social media postings and 190 interviews.

"What we've been able to glean from that information is that the Train family members subscribe to what we would call a broad Christian fundamentalist belief system, known as premillennialism," she said.

Deputy Police Commissioner Linford said the trio saw police "as monsters and demons".

Trio who shot dead Queensland police officers executed 'religiously motivated terrorist attack'

Queensland police say Nathaniel, Gareth and Stacey Train acted as an autonomous cell and had planned an "attack directed at police".

www.abc.net.au

 

[NSWCROW]

Wonder how much fox news they consumed...

 

[cartwright]

Mmhmm

She said the COVID pandemic, climate change, global conflicts and social disparity contributed to their belief in their system.

 

[Kurve]

This reads a bit better.

Why is it being classified as a terrorist attack?​

Deputy Commissioner Linford said a terrorist attack is defined as "a politically motivated attack driven by religious-motivated extremism or ideologically motivated extremists, or sometimes even by a single-issue-type ideology".

"It generally will result in death or serious injury … to somebody or serious damage to property, designed to intimidate government," she said.

"It's contained within the criminal code from Commonwealth statute.

"You don't have to be part of a group."

Queensland police said they do not believe any other people locally were involved in planning the attack but they are working with the FBI in the United States as part of their investigation into people who commented on the Trains' social media posts.

Police say the Wieambilla shooters were believers in premillennialism. Here's what that means

Premillennialism is the belief that after a period of extreme suffering, Jesus Christ will physically return to Earth for 1,000 years. A far-right and religious extremism expert says the ideology is experiencing "renewed momentum".

www.abc.net.au

 

[NSWCROW]

Wonder when andrew bolt will bust out the " christian leaders MUST do more to condemn this ".......

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Wonder when andrew bolt will bust out the " christian leaders MUST do more to condemn this ".......

Nothing to do with mainstream traditional Christianity.

 

[NSWCROW]

Probably the dumbest tweet i've ever seen

 

[NSWCROW]

Nothing to do with mainstream traditional Christianity.

The good kind

 

[Kurve]

Nothing to do with mainstream traditional Christianity.

I've noticed the 'demons' and 'devils' rhetoric, end of times and the return of Christ from across a couple of traditional Christian sects streaming down my facebook feed including that rubbish the Trains were warning of 'They're coming for the children!'.

Not so much now but I can't tell if that's because they've snapped out of it or if they've left it for Telegram or some other alternative.

 

[BFew]

Probably the dumbest tweet i've ever seen

I thought owls were renowned for being Wise.

More Morecombe and Wise than street smart.

 

[BFew]

Police have declared the fatal ambush on four young police officers a religiously motivated terror attack, and the Train family who carried out the shooting Christian extremists.

Have QLD police always been this slow?

 

[utility]

Anything actually been released on this yet?

They appeared to be nutter meth heads with guns who were visited by police.

 

[owen87]

I thought owls were renowned for being Wise.

More Morecombe and Wise than street smart.

Fun fact, apparently Owls aren't very smart as birds go.

 

[owen87]

Anything actually been released on this yet?

They appeared to be nutter meth heads with guns who were visited by police.

This doesn't count?

This reads a bit better.

Why is it being classified as a terrorist attack?​

Deputy Commissioner Linford said a terrorist attack is defined as "a politically motivated attack driven by religious-motivated extremism or ideologically motivated extremists, or sometimes even by a single-issue-type ideology".

"It generally will result in death or serious injury … to somebody or serious damage to property, designed to intimidate government," she said.

"It's contained within the criminal code from Commonwealth statute.

"You don't have to be part of a group."

Queensland police said they do not believe any other people locally were involved in planning the attack but they are working with the FBI in the United States as part of their investigation into people who commented on the Trains' social media posts.

Police say the Wieambilla shooters were believers in premillennialism. Here's what that means

Premillennialism is the belief that after a period of extreme suffering, Jesus Christ will physically return to Earth for 1,000 years. A far-right and religious extremism expert says the ideology is experiencing "renewed momentum".

www.abc.net.au