Political Discussion part #2 - SA General Election 2018 and onwards!

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Shot down by anyone that doesn't have a horse in the race as well?
Everyone under the age of 40 has a horse in the race of not dying from climate change as the weather and atmosphere reach a point no longer conducive to sustaining human life. The people who don't have a horse in the race are the ones ringing up the metaphorical credit card, because they'll die of old age before it happens, leaving the consequences behind.
 

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This is getting out of hand. We can no longer talk about serious issues because of these crazy bastards. Every hard working Australian who is concerned about the future of their children, housing prices, the environment should despise today's leftist. They are destroying the fabric of western society. Countries like China, Japan etc, countries that practice zero diversity themselves, must be sitting back rubbing their hands watching us implode. So if you say something the left disagree they will go out of their way to destroy your life. Free speech has been replaced with fascism. Who would have thought today's brown shirts would be lefties.

BTW if you are stupid enough to think that overseas workers haven't replaced young Australians check out the IT industry in SA. You will be shocked. The 457 worker was supposed to be the icing but instead they are being used as the cake. We are destroying our children's future.
 
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This is getting out of hand. We can no longer talk about serious issues because of these crazy bastards. Every hard working Australian who is concerned about the future of their children, housing prices, the environment should despise today's leftist. They are destroying the fabric of western society. Countries like China, Japan etc, countries that practice zero diversity themselves, must be sitting back rubbing their hands watching us implode. So if you say something the left disagree they will go out of their way to destroy your life. Free speech has been replaced with fascism. Who would have thought today's brown shirts would be lefties.

BTW if you are stupid enough to think that overseas workers haven't replaced young Australians check out the IT industry in SA. You will be shocked. The 457 worker was supposed to be the icing but instead they are being used as the cake. We are destroying our children's future.
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"Leftists should be ashamed of pointing out huge and rising inequality, mass state sanctioned bigotry, rampant corruption, the rate of environmental destruction, the general failure of neo-liberal capitalism, and the rise of neo-fascists globally, and of wanting to do something about it; they should be silent in their shame"

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"Leftists should be ashamed of pointing out huge and rising inequality, mass state sanctioned bigotry, rampant corruption, the rate of environmental destruction, the general failure of neo-liberal capitalism, and the rise of neo-fascists globally, and of wanting to do something about it; they should be silent in their shame"

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Actually you're a brilliant example of todays leftist -

ashamed of pointing out huge and rising inequality - I'm assuming your professor will be taking a pay cut soon? When socialism kicks in give me half of everything you own?

mass state sanctioned bigotry - what absolute garbage. Countries such as Australia, US, England etc are the most diverse and welcoming of minorities on the planet. The fact millions of people risk their lives to get to these countries speaks volumes. Perhaps you should look outside your privileged life and head to the middle east, Africa etc - there you will see real bigotry and inequality.

the rate of environmental destruction - year right, like the left give a shit about the environment. Your open door policy and a "big Australia" (35 million) would be disastrous for this countries environment. "Lands overrated, loving me some urban sprawl". Labor is just as complicit as the incompetent Libs in the Murray - Darling disaster.

neo-fascists globally - the left have got this covered. You're quite happy to ruin someones life if their opinion falls outside your warped definition of what's right and wrong.
 
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Reneweconomy really?

oh please spare me.

I did say someone that didn't have a horse in the race yeah?
I guess you didn't read the article. The guy who did the modelling made a bunch of highly unrealistic cost assumptions and left out key details to be analysed. He also has a history of doing this. This is not just the 'editors opinion'.
 

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This is getting out of hand. We can no longer talk about serious issues because of these crazy bastards. Every hard working Australian who is concerned about the future of their children, housing prices, the environment should despise today's leftist. They are destroying the fabric of western society. Countries like China, Japan etc, countries that practice zero diversity themselves, must be sitting back rubbing their hands watching us implode. So if you say something the left disagree they will go out of their way to destroy your life. Free speech has been replaced with fascism. Who would have thought today's brown shirts would be lefties.

BTW if you are stupid enough to think that overseas workers haven't replaced young Australians check out the IT industry in SA. You will be shocked. The 457 worker was supposed to be the icing but instead they are being used as the cake. We are destroying our children's future.
Jesus man, the only one imploding is you.
 

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Ein volk, ein reich, ein ScoMo
I really don't think you know what a real Nazi is....you've lost any semblance of rationality when you start throwing around the word "nazi" like you do....but then I guess it's a "go to" for the extreme left.
 

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Actually you're a brilliant example of todays leftist

ashamed of pointing out huge and rising inequality - I'm assuming your professor will be taking a pay cut soon? When socialism kicks in give me half of everything you own?

mass state sanctioned bigotry - what absolute garbage. Countries such as Australia, US, England etc are the most diverse and welcoming of minorities on the planet. The fact millions of people risk their lives to get to these countries speaks volumes. Perhaps you should look outside your privileged life and head to the middle east, Africa etc - there you will see real bigotry and inequality.

the rate of environmental destruction - year right, like the left give a shit about the environment. Your open door policy and a "big Australia" (35 million) would be disastrous for this countries environment. "Lands overrated, loving me some urban sprawl". Labor is just as complicit as the incompetent Libs in the Murray - Darling disaster.

neo-fascists globally - the left have got this covered. You're quite happy to ruin someones life if their opinion falls outside your warped definition of what's right and wrong.
Ok ignoring that bar 6 years of a centre left party being the elected government, since 1996 till now we have had a conservative government in charge.....not leftists at all.....but we’ll ignore that.

Rising inequality- how does raising concerns about economic inequality lead straight to socialism?
Nobody is advocating for that are they? In fact I would assume most people understand in a democratic free market economy, some will do better than others, the concern is when the Some are doing very well purely at the expense of the others, the most obvious example being flat wage growth and soaring company profits.
Just as you complain “sensible” people can no longer debate topics without fear of persecution from leftists you have immediately taken a genuine concern of the majority of the population and are attacking leftists for questioning it. This topic is not left or right, it’s a mainstream concern, or at least should be considered as such by all “sensible hard working Australians”.

I do not know who you are or where you sit in the world, but if inequality is not re balanced the middle class will one day disappear. If your happy with this then I can only assume you are one of the privileged few who are benefiting from this inequality, or that you actually do not understand the debate.
If balance in economic oppurtunity is not restored then “hard working” Australians will just have to continue to work harder to live and their children will be consigned to a life of economic exclusion.
Is this a good thing?

How is being concerned and wanting some redress on this issue socialism?
Your point is complete fantasy.

Bigotry - We have toxic debates centred around people’s worth based on colour and religion and granted this has always happened. But we now see these debates played out openly by our political leaders and media outlets just about everyday.

But again ignoring that and debating just your point, can you explain how we are a “minority” and why you consider our bigotry ok because other countries are worse?
You are advocating that our xenophobic rhetoric is ok because look over there....You need to understand the difference between bigotry and persecution and then acknowledge both are toxic to all societies.

Your arguments are based on extremes, just as you criticise leftists for doing you have no middle ground in your arguments.
 
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Why do Political parties of all creeds try this shit on, the Libs caught out recently on the same subject putting up a Lib stooge in their ads and now only a couple of weeks later Labor caught out putting up a Labor stooge in their ads. All Political parties taking the public as fools.

 

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Ok ignoring that bar 6 years of a centre left party being the elected government, since 1996 till now we have had a conservative government in charge.....not leftists at all.....but we’ll ignore that.

Rising inequality- how does raising concerns about economic inequality lead straight to socialism?
Nobody is advocating for that are they? In fact I would assume most people understand in a democratic free market economy, some will do better than others, the concern is when the Some are doing very well purely at the expense of the others, the most obvious example being flat wage growth and soaring company profits.
Just as you complain “sensible” people can no longer debate topics without fear of persecution from leftists you have immediately taken a genuine concern of the majority of the population and are attacking leftists for questioning it. This topic is not left or right, it’s a mainstream concern, or at least should be considered as such by all “sensible hard working Australians”.

I do not know who you are or where you sit in the world, but if inequality is not re balanced the middle class will one day disappear. If your happy with this then I can only assume you are one of the privileged few who are benefiting from this inequality, or that you actually do not understand the debate.
If balance in economic oppurtunity is not restored then “hard working” Australians will just have to continue to work harder to live and their children will be consigned to a life of economic exclusion.
Is this a good thing?

How is being concerned and wanting some redress on this issue socialism?
Your point is complete fantasy.

Bigotry - We have toxic debates centred around people’s worth based on colour and religion and granted this has always happened. But we now see these debates played out openly by our political leaders and media outlets just about everyday.

But again ignoring that and debating just your point, can you explain how we are a “minority” and why you consider our bigotry ok because other countries are worse?
You are advocating that our xenophobic rhetoric is ok because look over there....You need to understand the difference between bigotry and persecution and then acknowledge both are toxic to all societies.

Your arguments are based on extremes, just as you criticise leftists for doing you have no middle ground in your arguments.
I reckon the whole 'free speech' panic is really just a grievance at actually being held accountable/challenged for the things you say (and do).
 
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