Political Discussion part #2 - SA General Election 2018 and onwards!

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Oh it couldn't be due to the fact of some hard truths being found out would it? Where else can a programme be aired that criticises it's own, which it has done on several occasions. Certainly not the mainstream media.

And you of all people have used an ABC article/episode to help your cause(s).
Just a tad hypocritical there.
Surely you can’t be defending that budget to run a 15 minute show?
 

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You can also add when someone changes from one party to another.
Now this shits me the most.

We have members being elected under the banner of a party, whether that be one of the majors or smaller ones like Palmer, Nick or Hansen. Then they have a disagreement, leave the party and they get to stay. They should be kicked out and the party replace them at no cost to the tax payer.
 

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Now this shits me the most.

We have members being elected under the banner of a party, whether that be one of the majors or smaller ones like Palmer, Nick or Hansen. Then they have a disagreement, leave the party and they get to stay. They should be kicked out and the party replace them at no cost to the tax payer.
Only problem with that EC is if that was the outcome none of them would have parted ways.........The Political gravy train, snouts in the trough etc etc.
 
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Yeah right, I'm sure Paul Barry is very objective whilst holding 69,556 shares in left wing media Organisation Crikey....can't say I've ever heard or seen that disclosed in the credits. Perhaps you can point me to where Media Watch has discredited a Crikey article under Paul Barry's tenure?
Just an aside, how many of the general public even read or hear anything what this organisation says? Probably not many would know who they are.

Is that like any present members of the coalition or their family members having shares in any Murdoch company? Didn't hear you mention that one.
 

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Just an aside, how many of the general public even read or hear anything what this organisation says? Probably not many would know who they are.

Is that like any present members of the coalition or their family members having shares in any Murdoch company? Didn't hear you mention that one.
Ummmm, none of them Liberal members are employed at the ABC....They wouldn't get past the submit your C.V. process.
 

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Barely any wind in SA this afternoon or for that matter Australia, with the SA wind turbines contributing a miniscule 27 MW at 12.40PM EST and SA sucking on the teat of the coal states to meet demand......and burning plenty of that dastardly fossil fuel GAS.

 
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Barely any wind in SA this afternoon or for that matter Australia, with the SA wind turbines contributing a miniscule 27 MW at 12.40PM EST and SA sucking on the teat of the coal states to meet demand......and burning plenty of that dastardly fossil fuel GAS.

Quite a few N/A or 0MW there. Why is that?
 

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Quite a few N/A or 0MW there. Why is that?
N/A = Not available in SA, O = producing zero, as you can see at that time there was a large deficit between what was being produced and demand. Battery was drawing power [Charging] at that time.

Edit : Hopefully the wind will pick up over there soon....:)
 

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You can also add when someone changes from one party to another.
Yep. It's pretty simple really. If you run at an election with a party platform, you see that through until the next election cycle like you said you would.

You want to step away from that, that's fine. But here's the bill.
 

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Old Billy Shortpants is the Libs gift that keeps giving with his preferred Prime Minister numbers plummeting and Turnbull's on the rise after Billy's week from hell.

Either you, or The Australian, is only telling half the story (as usual).

Shorten's personal popularity is down. The ALP's 2PP is up - from 52-48 to 54-46.
 

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Yeah right, I'm sure Paul Barry is very objective whilst holding 69,556 shares in left wing media Organisation Crikey....can't say I've ever heard or seen that disclosed in the credits. Perhaps you can point me to where Media Watch has discredited a Crikey article under Paul Barry's tenure?
http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s3758251.htm
That's all a quick google search of the mediawatch website turned up. A few other articles that mentioned Crikey, but that was the only one in which he took them down. Not a lot, given how long he's been the face of the show.
 
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N/A = Not available in SA, O = producing zero, as you can see at that time there was a large deficit between what was being produced and demand. Battery was drawing power [Charging] at that time.

Edit : Hopefully the wind will pick up over there soon....:)
No but the sun is shining. And by the looks, we can buy some wind power from WA, so no probs.
 
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Barely any wind in SA this afternoon or for that matter Australia, with the SA wind turbines contributing a miniscule 27 MW at 12.40PM EST and SA sucking on the teat of the coal states to meet demand......and burning plenty of that dastardly fossil fuel GAS.

You know having a close look at this chart, it is pretty damning that states like NSW and to a lesser extent WA either use none or little hydro when they have large water districts like the Snowy and the Ord. Then there is Qld where at least a quarter of the state has been in drought conditions but still using it.

To me this graph proves that governments have not/are not utilising their resources as they should.
 

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You know having a close look at this chart, it is pretty damning that states like NSW and to a lesser extent WA either use none or little hydro when they have large water districts like the Snowy and the Ord. Then there is Qld where at least a quarter of the state has been in drought conditions but still using it.

To me this graph proves that governments have not/are not utilising their resources as they should.
Methinks you don't really understand how it works...

The Ord is located way up in the Kimberley. To a certain extent it's a white elephant. It doesn't/can't provide water or electricity to the bulk of the WA population, which is largely in the SW corner of the state. The sheer distances involved make getting water/power to the SW uneconomical (at best). As a result it only provides water & power to a relatively small area in the NE corner of the state.

Similarly, the Snowy hydro scheme is not there to provide baseload power. It's used to provide peak load power, and they then pump the water back up the hill during the off-peak periods - noting that Bicks' snapshot was taken at an off-peak time.
 

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You know having a close look at this chart, it is pretty damning that states like NSW and to a lesser extent WA either use none or little hydro when they have large water districts like the Snowy and the Ord. Then there is Qld where at least a quarter of the state has been in drought conditions but still using it.

To me this graph proves that governments have not/are not utilising their resources as they should.
Vader has pretty much explained that too.
 

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Methinks you don't really understand how it works...

The Ord is located way up in the Kimberley. To a certain extent it's a white elephant. It doesn't/can't provide water or electricity to the bulk of the WA population, which is largely in the SW corner of the state. The sheer distances involved make getting water/power to the SW uneconomical (at best). As a result it only provides water & power to a relatively small area in the NE corner of the state.

Similarly, the Snowy hydro scheme is not there to provide baseload power. It's used to provide peak load power, and they then pump the water back up the hill during the off-peak periods - noting that Bicks' snapshot was taken at an off-peak time.
I know where they are and have been on tours at both. That being said, it was quite a while ago, yet even then the touring people indicated at both places that in the ensuing years it is hope that they will provide not only water but power to Perth and at least Wollongong.

It was believed during those times that science and technology would provide to make that possible.

Bit like the Collins Class submarines that I worked on actually.
 

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How convenient for you, last night's May 13 Newspoll was 51 ALP - 49 LNP 2PP as was also published in the Australian.
True to a point. I hadn't taken into account that The Australian were only going to mention their own Newspoll, not Fairfax/Ipsos.

It's still cherry picking. They still chose to focus on the good news for the Coalition, ignoring the bad news. Not exactly balanced reporting, though nobody expects balance from a Murdoch rag.

Newspoll shows no-change. Ipsos shows a 2-pt swing to Labor. Depending on which poll you prefer, it's either bad news, or very bad news, for the Coalition. They were banking on a bounce leading into the next election. At best they got nothing, at worst, Labor trumped them and sent them backwards.
 
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