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That's not the question though is it?

One is a privately funded organisation, the other publicly funded and with a charter to be neutral. Well it's clearly not and the fact Ruddy suggests we need more of it says it all doesn't it?
It's close to being neutral, compared to commercial outlets.

It's hardly biased one way.

Why should I put up with biased Bolt crap on Foxtel, when I pay for informative news - I get better coverage from the ABC which I also effectively pay towards. What's the difference?

News & current affairs is generally infotainment puff pieces.

The likes of 4 corners actually have decent investigative journalism that is lacking these days... rather than the funding someone to kidnap kids rubbish.
 

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It's close to being neutral, compared to commercial outlets.

It's hardly biased one way.

Why should I put up with biased Bolt crap on Foxtel, when I pay for informative news - I get better coverage from the ABC which I also effectively pay towards. What's the difference?

News & current affairs is generally infotainment puff pieces.

The likes of 4 corners actually have decent investigative journalism that is lacking these days... rather than the funding someone to kidnap kids rubbish.
You don't like Murdoch media but you have a choice not to pay to view/read it.

However those of the conservative side have no choice, we pay towards the ABC as you pointed out, but we have no say so therefore we ask for a balanced broadcaster.

Why is it that those on the conversative side view that's it biased and those more left leaning don't believe it is and like it? Is that just a coincidence or could the views of a large number of people be correct?

The other thing is what do the conservatives have to gain by disliking the ABC? If they viewed it as balanced there is no reason to not support it.

That's not to say they have some good shows like Four Corners, that doesn't wipe away the rest of the bias though.
 
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You don't like Murdoch media but you have a choice not to pay to view/read it.

However those of the conservative side have no choice, we pay towards the ABC as you pointed out, but we have no say so therefore we ask for a balanced broadcaster.

Why is it that those on the conversative side view that's it biased and those more left leaning don't believe it is and like it? Is that just a coincidence or could the views of a large number of people be correct?

The other thing is what do the conservatives have to gain by disliking the ABC? If they viewed it as balanced there is no reason to not support it.

That's not to say they have some good shows like Four Corners, that doesn't wipe away the rest of the bias though.
You are viewing it thru your lenses - so no matter what they do, you will think they are biased.

Personally, think they are balanced and Four Corners does its job.

Now on Trump, interesting times ahead for all. We wait probably 6 months before passing judgement but is he likely to change his character from what we have seen over the years? Not likely. He will screw the classes that got him there, nothing surer.
 

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You are viewing it thru your lenses - so no matter what they do, you will think they are biased.

Personally, think they are balanced and Four Corners does its job.

Now on Trump, interesting times ahead for all. We wait probably 6 months before passing judgement but is he likely to change his character from what we have seen over the years? Not likely. He will screw the classes that got him there, nothing surer.
There's a lot of people wearing my lenses though aren't there? Just like there are a lot of people wearing the same lenses as you who share your view.

Only one side is happy though, why is that I wonder?

As for Trump, he's a nut job and those that voted for him are idiots.
 

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THE return of the mysterious Marree Man was hailed as a potential windfall for the South Australian outback – but government bureaucrats have launched a criminal investigation into those who rejuvenated the iconic landmark.

The famous 4.5km geolyth, in the form of an Aboriginal warrior, appeared in the desert in 1998 after a bush pilot spotted the giant and unique artwork.

While the bush reclaimed the original artwork years ago and its creator remains a mystery, a group of local businessmen helped organise graders to ensure the return of Marree Man in August and September this year.

The project – which won the enthusiastic backing of entrepreneur Dick Smith– has instead incurred the ire of investigators from the Department of Environment, Water and Resources.

The Advertiser was on Friday handed a warrant – signed off by a magistrate – demanding information about stories written about the return of the Marree Man in September.







The disappearance of the Marree Man
The warrant states the department is investigating whether proponents of the project had committed the offence of unlawfully clearing native vegetation.

Marree Hotel publican Phil Turner played an integral role in the project and said he was shocked the Environment Department was investigating potential criminal charges.

“This is so typical of the Weatherill government, just bureaucratic stupidity and complete inability to grasp the reality of the fact that there are people with a desire to have it restored in the interests of tourism and we did it with the utmost sense of responsibility,” he said.

Mr Turner said he was this weekend expecting groups of tourists who had flown and driven to the area “just to fly over the Marree Man”.

“They are enthralled with it, it’s captivating Australia – it’s just what the Far North of South Australia needs – and to have that sort of behaviour going on over what was created in the first place, it is just bureaucracy gone mad,” Mr Turner said.


A view of the Marree Man from the air.
“It is a complete waste of money and effort and whoever is behind promoting this course of action should be told very politely to go home and pull their bloody head in,” Mr Turner said.

Mr Turner said he had consulted extensively with the local Arabunna people before embarking on the ambitious project.

“In the footsteps of those who restore Rembrandts to lesser-known artists, we did nothing more than add credibility to the original artists,” he said.

“Protecting the original artist’s work was of paramount importance, so we did nothing more than the original artist did.”

Mr Turner said he was not worried about the investigation and had a clear conscience about the project.

“I don’t have any concerns. I am very proud of what we have done and I’ve been super proud of the Arabunna people with how they have handled this and worked with us,” he said.


Marree Hotel owner Phil Turner at the site of the Marree man where he recently helped restore the artwork.
Dick Smith, who donated money to the Arabunna people to construct an airstrip to ferry tourists over the site, described the investigation as “bureaucracy gone mad”.

“I am staggered, that is a real pity and I think it’s really terrible that they are doing that,” he said.

“We’ve just gone mad as a country. People are just fed up with our present governments and political systems and the complete overkill of regulation.”

A government spokesman last night confirmed an investigation was underway after “complaints (were) received in relation to the Marree Man”.
 

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The wholesale price of electricity in South Australia spiked on Christmas Day amid searing heat.


Electricity prices in the states
Wholesale electricity prices in South Australia spiked to peaks nearly eight times those of other states on Christmas Day as soaring temperatures increased demand.

As temperatures in Adelaide passed 40C in the early afternoon, electricity prices spiked to $550 per megawatt hour in the early evening and then above $350MWh as demand peaked near 7pm.

That compared to a sustained peak above $40 from early after noon to late evening in Victoria — which relies on brown coal generation and supplies much of SA’s electricity demand — and above $55 in NSW, according to Australian Energy Market Operator figures.

Prices in Queensland jumped above $70 near 11pm, which was well past the peak demand period, and surged above $220MWh at 2am in Tasmania.

The record Adelaide temperature of 40.7 degrees on its hottest Christmas Day in 71 years posed the first major test for the electricity networks after blackouts in September and earlier this month.

David Leitch from energy consultancy ITK said prices in South Australia were higher because of the absence of cheap coal generation in the state and the reliance on renewables and gas at a time when the price of the fuel has risen strongly

But he said the intermittent price spikes in the wholesale market — which act as a signal to generators to add supply into the network — would have negligible impact on consumer prices, which are mostly averaged over three months in quarterly bills.

According to AEMO figure, the average price in South Australia on Christmas Day was $50.90MWh, against $26.48 in Victoria, $38.21 in NSW and $35 in Queensland.

Mr Leitch said the main beneficiary of higher prices were gas generators, which could respond quickly to rising demand and prices when the sun is not shining or the wind not blowing.

“It’s gas-fired generation that sets the price for electricity in South Australia,’’ he said

“If you are a gas generation fan, the problem is that the gas prices have gone way up about 100 per cent more than last year in the spot market as the Queensland LNG plants have ramped up.’’

SA gets about 40 per cent of its power from renewable sources and while solar roof panels can account for up to a quarter of demand in the middle of the day, the price can spike when the wind is not blowing and clouds obscure sunlight.

Energy ministers around the country are grappling with how to ensure lower prices and reliability in the national electricity market, which extends from Queensland to Tasmania and South Australia at a time when no new coal-fired capacity is being built at the same time that higher cost ageing plants are closing.

At a meeting two weeks ago, they agreed on some reforms including encouraging the use of more gas-fired power capacity in SA to lower reliance on Victorian energy via the Heywood Interconnector which has “tripped’’ twice this year, leading to blackouts.

But Mr Leitch said it was unlikely that significant new gas capacity would be built while there was a lack of affordable gas to run the plants.
 

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I see the SJW's are out in full force again

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pa...s/news-story/43e62d71cebc21c0d6b053bf5c8919b7

How offensive can you get, likening giving granddad a cuddle with rape.
What has social justice got to do with that?

That's just helicopter parenting, of people fussing and worrying far too much about their kids. Kids will be fine, and modern parents have to many opinions and worries about poor little Jackson and Emily.

Being a high maintenance parent has nothing to do with political beliefs. There would be as many dumb parents worried about forcing kissing nanna and shots giving kids autism on the right as there would be on the left.

Probably a lot more ...
 
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