Play Nice Politics # 4 - The madness continues here.....

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[Kane McGoodwin]

I think you’d do well to understand the full history of the second amendment

I think you would do well to understand that if you put dangerous weapons in the hands of stupid &/or angry people, more deaths would occur.

Funny how you are trying to educate me... when some of your views imo are warped.

We are not going to agree as I don't believe the average person has a right to a gun.

 

[1970crow]

One of the highest rates of stabbing, but not rates of death from stabbings. I believe this is China & high through much of Asia.

Still not great to have so many stabbing injuries... I gather much is alcohol &/or drugs induced.

notbsure about drugs, definitely alcohol. apparently a good portion are cultural justice, the old spear into leg.

 

[mistylake]

Yikes don’t be so sure the Pfizer is all that and safer than Astra Zennica if you’re under 50.

Israel said probing link between Pfizer shot and heart problem in men under 30

Leaked Health Ministry probe raises concerns as 62 cases of myocarditis found out of 5 million vaccinated -- most after second dose; 2 deaths, but no direct link established

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[mistylake]

Something smells fishy in the Chinese wet markets.

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[kirky]

I think you’d do well to understand the full history of the second amendment

And it relates to a “well regulated militia” - not sure individuals today are in any sort of militia and it certainly isn’t regulated and it is hardly relevant now given the assault weapons easily available as opposed to having muskets back in 1776!

 

[kirky]

I think you would do well to understand that if you put dangerous weapons in the hands of stupid &/or angry people, more deaths would occur.

Funny how you are trying to educate me... when some of your views imo are warped.

We are not going to agree as I don't believe the average person has a right to a gun.

Interesting that since 1996 we have not had a mass shooting attack.

You want a gun, you get a licence and it is stored in a local storage facility or gun club farmers exempt). That is how you deal with it. Americans have no idea.

 

[mistylake]

This ones for the cowards amongst us.

Covid and borders: Pharaoh or Moses? | The Spectator Australia

When I first told my grandmother Audrey)that I was going to emigrate to Australia from England she told me that, when she was a younger woman, many friends and family members in her community followed…

www.spectator.com.au

 

[mistylake]

Interesting that since 1996 we have not had a mass shooting attack.

You want a gun, you get a licence and it is stored in a local storage facility or gun club farmers exempt). That is how you deal with it. Americans have no idea.

And now we have a situation in Australia where we’ve been imprisoned within our shores and no real means of taking back control. Could you imagine the yanks putting up with the crimes The Morrison government are currently employing.

 

[Carmo]

And now we have a situation in Australia where we’ve been imprisoned within our shores and no real means of taking back control. Could you imagine the yanks putting up with the crimes The Morrison government are currently employing.

Yep, like the super-imprisoned people of WA. In their recent election they totally showed how much they disliked being imprisoned.

You sound like a libertarian. You have to understand it would be lucky to be 10% of the population that thinks like you.

Also, I've got a number of social media libertarian friends that don't like all their freedoms being impinged, most of them from the eastern states, I told them to move to a country SA town, many don't have cops there, so they have to self police to a large extent, a libertarians paradise! So far none of them have moved to country SA. Theyve all stayed where they are and kept whinging.

 

[Slippery Pete]

This ones for the cowards amongst us.

Covid and borders: Pharaoh or Moses? | The Spectator Australia

When I first told my grandmother Audrey)that I was going to emigrate to Australia from England she told me that, when she was a younger woman, many friends and family members in her community followed…

www.spectator.com.au

Exceptional article

 

[Slippery Pete]

And now we have a situation in Australia where we’ve been imprisoned within our shores and no real means of taking back control. Could you imagine the yanks putting up with the crimes The Morrison government are currently employing.

They have a child’s understanding of the second amendment, its history, what it means, where it came from and why it is there.

You can actually be across those things & still express concern about gun ownership.

That isn’t them though, they aren’t that nuanced.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

They have a child’s understanding of the second amendment, its history, what it means, where it came from and why it is there.

You can actually be across those things & still express concern about gun ownership.

That isn’t them though, they aren’t that nuanced.

Any one with half a brain would be appalled at the gun related deaths in the USA compared to Australia.... but keep banging on about the 2nd amendment.

 

[Crow till I die]

And now we have a situation in Australia where we’ve been imprisoned within our shores and no real means of taking back control. Could you imagine the yanks putting up with the crimes The Morrison government are currently employing.

It will be interesting to keep an eye on Germany as they have proposed a relaxation of rules for those travelling abroad if they have been fully vaccinated

Disclaimer - this is a CNN article so you might want to cross check its validity as they are a well known fake news outlet

Germany ponders new freedoms for the fully vaccinated

Germany is considering new plans to give extra rights and freedoms to people who have been fully vaccinated against Covid-19.

edition.cnn.com

People who live in Germany would also no longer have to go into quarantine after traveling abroad, if fully inoculated, with a few regional exceptions.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Any one with half a brain would be appalled at the gun related deaths in the USA compared to Australia.... but keep banging on about the 2nd amendment.

You missed the point as usual

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

You missed the point as usual

No, your point is irrelevant...

Do you believe everyone should have a right to own a gun?

Do you think you are safer if everyone has a gun?

 

[Slippery Pete]

No, your point is irrelevant...

Do you believe everyone should have a right to own a gun?

Do you think you are safer if everyone has a gun?

I‘ll answer your questions when you spend some time educating yourself on the history of the second amendment, until then, this is like trying to teach algebra to a cat.

 

[kirky]

They have a child’s understanding of the second amendment, its history, what it means, where it came from and why it is there.

You can actually be across those things & still express concern about gun ownership.

That isn’t them though, they aren’t that nuanced.

No, we fully understand it’s history but it is irrelevant today. And when you have the right wing go on about it in the States how it is an invasion of their Second Amendment rights you fully understand who are the uneducated ones. This is the 21st Century not the 18th Century of a new colony ffs under an external power.

Perhaps when the international borders open you can go across to the East Coast and learn all about the history in Boston and around Gettysburg and the like. Fascinating to hear and learn.

 

[Slippery Pete]

No, we fully understand it’s history but it is irrelevant today.

That’s exactly why it’s written into the constitution, because the founding fathers were a lot smarter than you are, and predicted you would say exactly that.

 

[kirky]

That’s exactly why it’s written into the constitution, because the founding fathers were a lot smarter than you are, and predicted you would say exactly that.

But it is irrelevant now and right wing loonies think you can quote the Second Amendment when the type of system in place in the 21st Century is not the same as the 18th Century. Guns should be banned or alternatively give them muskets in exchange for their semi-automatic and hand guns. Seems fair.

Things change and society moves on, but not the cavemen that support the Republicans.

 

[Slippery Pete]

But it is irrelevant now

Lol again

 

[kirky]

Lol again

As expected you can’t respond with a reasonable argument. You got nothing!

Then again the only ones who wanted to destroy the House of Democracy were the Republican/Trump supporters. How apt!

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I‘ll answer your questions when you spend some time educating yourself on the history of the second amendment, until then, this is like trying to teach algebra to a cat.

No, you won't the answer the question for fear of embarrassing yourself further...

They are simple questions which are at the heart of this discussion.

 

[Slippery Pete]

As expected you can’t respond with a reasonable argument. You got nothing!

Tbh it’s funny how aptly you’ve proven that you don’t understand the amendment while simultaneously showing one of the reasons it exists.

So prophetic was it (and the Bill of Rights in general) that it has acted as a safeguard against incredibly small-minded, naval-gazing clods like you, who believe - against the backdrop of history - that because something is not happening right now, at this very point in time, that means it’s never going to happen ever again.

I guess you wouldn’t have been founding fathers material. Colour me shocked!

Btw, there is actually a rational debate to be had around this topic, but probably not with you or your mate.

 

[Slippery Pete]

No, you won't the answer the question for fear of embarrassing yourself further...

They are simple questions which are at the heart of this discussion.

Evidently, they are not that simple.

Although I guess when you’re prepared to just completely disregard the Bill of Rights, it becomes pretty simple.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Evidently, they are not that simple.

Although I guess when you’re prepared to just completely disregard the Bill of Rights, it becomes pretty simple.

I was asking for your personal opion... so yes, it is simple to answer.

Is society safer with more or less guns?

Should everyone have the right to own a gun?