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[Papa G]

Clearly a jury of his peers thought it was his intention

Reckon it'll get downgraded to manslaughter on appeal.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

Reckon it'll get downgraded to manslaughter on appeal.

You’d think so.

 

[sobrave]

I thought you needed intent for murder? I doubt it was his intention to kill him?

When someone's telling you he hasn't got a pulse and you've still got your knee on his neck.. what else was his intention?

 

[Contested Marx]

When someone's telling you he hasn't got a pulse and you've still got your knee on his neck.. what else was his intention?

To stop that very dangerous man from using another counterfeit $20 note

 

[Schulzenfest]

Dunno how it works in the US but in South Australia you can be convicted of murder for being 'recklessly indifferent' to causing death. Whether Chauvin intentionally killed Floyd, only one person knows for sure, but he sure as s**t was recklessly indifferent to keeping him alive.

 

[BornPort]

Dunno how it works in the US but in South Australia you can be convicted of murder for being 'recklessly indifferent' to causing death. Whether Chauvin intentionally killed Floyd, only one person knows for sure, but he sure as sh*t was recklessly indifferent to keeping him alive.

Second-Degree Murder in Minnesota means killing someone while committing a felony. The prosecution in this case successfully argued that the excessive force classified as a felony. At least that's what I've read.

 

[sobrave]

Dunno how it works in the US but in South Australia you can be convicted of murder for being 'recklessly indifferent' to causing death. Whether Chauvin intentionally killed Floyd, only one person knows for sure, but he sure as sh*t was recklessly indifferent to keeping him alive.

have i watched too many movies or does pre-meditation come into it? is that the whole first degree, second degree thing?

it's interesting that pre-meditated is seen as much worse and deserving of a larger penalty, versus an "impulse" killing. you could say that someone who can't control their impulses is more likely to do it again. whereas maybe if someone pre-meditated a revenge killing or something against say, the drunk driver that killed their wife... is probably not gonna do it again.

none of this is really relevant to this case, i don't think it was pre meditated, but it was definitely murder.

 

[Schulzenfest]

have i watched too many movies or does pre-meditation come into it? is that the whole first degree, second degree thing?

As far as I'm aware there's no such offence as 'first-degree murder', 'second-degree murder' etc in SA, it's all just murder or manslaughter here (although obviously the circumstances could be taking into account in sentencing). The US definitely has all that stuff though. I think you're right when you say that over there first degree murder requires pre-meditation.

I don't think Chauvin was convicted of first degree murder though. Nor should he have been. What he did was terrible enough to put him away for a long time on its merits without going too hard and giving him grounds for appeal.

 

[Lawnchair Larry]

Just what exactly is Morrison laying his hands on? Suspect it is below his waist.

Scott Morrison tells Christian conference he was called to do God’s work as prime minister

Australia’s first Pentecostal PM says he practises the tradition of ‘laying on of hands’ while working and calls misuse of social media the work of ‘the evil one’

www.theguardian.com

"I’ve been in evacuation centres where people thought I was just giving someone a hug and I was praying, and putting my hands on people … laying hands on them and praying in various situations,” he says, referring to a visit to Kalbarri in the Pilbara in the wake of Cyclone Seroja."

 

[Lawnchair Larry]

I hate this stuff:

Who owns the land where ⁦
ScottMorrison MP
⁩ plans to build a gas-fired generator?
Jeff McCloy
NSW ICAC found he made covert donations to the Liberal Party
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Laming and Christensen have both announced they won’t be running at the next election, but have asked their branches to refuse their “nominations” so they can each receive $100,000 when they exit parliament.
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Bridgette Joyce, daughter of Barnaby, is drawing a “senior advisor” salary at the age of 22 in John "Pork" Barillaro’s office.

 

[sobrave]

I hate this stuff:

Who owns the land where ⁦
ScottMorrison MP
⁩ plans to build a gas-fired generator?
Jeff McCloy
NSW ICAC found he made covert donations to the Liberal Party
--------
Laming and Christensen have both announced they won’t be running at the next election, but have asked their branches to refuse their “nominations” so they can each receive $100,000 when they exit parliament.
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Bridgette Joyce, daughter of Barnaby, is drawing a “senior advisor” salary at the age of 22 in John "Pork" Barillaro’s office.

The sense of entitlement on these campaigners is ridiculous. We need a federal ICAC to stamp this s**t out. These people have no ethics

 

[Lawnchair Larry]

Australians Fleeing Bushfires To Be Jailed For 5 Years — The Shovel

"They knew the risks when they went to live there"

www.theshovel.com.au

 

[Lawnchair Larry]

Scandalous as it is there are some facts reported in this article re Christian Porter.

"Thursday 5pm 6/5/21: As predicted Christian Porter has filed a Notice of Motion to have part of the ABC’s defence suppressed. (Click here to see the Notice of Motion) The Notice of Motion has not been heard yet"

Alleged rapist Christian Porter’s defamation case against the ABC is in crisis as his lawyers try to hide evidence so the public do not know the truth

A federal court statement to the media says Christian Porter’s lawyers are in negotiations with the ABC lawyers to suppress the ABC’s defence and evidence but the reality is it is almos…

kangaroocourtofaustralia.com

 

[1954]

When compared to many of the US states the penalties for serious crimes in this country are ridiculously light, eg a case I saw on tv recently where a bloke got 2 life terms for murdering his wife and her mother, and he was released after serving only 8 years.

In a not too dissimilar, and reasonably recent case in one of the yank states that doesn't have the ultimate penalty, the perpetrator got 2 life terms plus 50 years, ie he aint getting out ever!

Then we have that f***wit Pusey, who with time already served either has been released already or is very close to being released.
Surely the karma bus will eventually hit him, and if/when it does it won't surprise me greatly if it by his own hand.

The next big test for yank justice will of course be how big the penalties are for those heavily involved in the riot during the last days of the orange bloke with the cat on his head, personally I hope they are severe.

 

[GoTheMightyCrows]

The next big test for yank justice will of course be how big the penalties are for those heavily involved in the riot during the last days of the orange bloke with the cat on his head, personally I hope they are severe.

Yet those caught burning down buildings during BLM based riots get released the next day!!

Amazing to think those Portland riots are ongoing


https://www.kptv.com/news/three-cha...cle_c7b701d4-ac5c-11eb-a82a-5fb7a8b42a3c.html

 

[sobrave]

When compared to many of the US states the penalties for serious crimes in this country are ridiculously light, eg a case I saw on tv recently where a bloke got 2 life terms for murdering his wife and her mother, and he was released after serving only 8 years.

In a not too dissimilar, and reasonably recent case in one of the yank states that doesn't have the ultimate penalty, the perpetrator got 2 life terms plus 50 years, ie he aint getting out ever!

Then we have that f***wit Pusey, who with time already served either has been released already or is very close to being released.
Surely the karma bus will eventually hit him, and if/when it does it won't surprise me greatly if it by his own hand.

The next big test for yank justice will of course be how big the penalties are for those heavily involved in the riot during the last days of the orange bloke with the cat on his head, personally I hope they are severe.

Execution is the penalty for treason isn't it?

 

[1954]

Execution is the penalty for treason isn't it?

I believe it is, that won't happen but you would think long prison terms should be on the cards for the main offenders.

 

[Lawnchair Larry]

Is it a forlorn hope that an alternative government/leader might do better than this?:

A Dossier of Lies and Falsehoods Archives

This Crikey investigation labels the prime minister something no leader would want to be called. We don't really want to do it. But the time has come.

www.crikey.com.au

 

[GoTheMightyCrows]

 

[Astronema]

Is it a forlorn hope that an alternative government/leader might do better than this?:

A Dossier of Lies and Falsehoods Archives

This Crikey investigation labels the prime minister something no leader would want to be called. We don't really want to do it. But the time has come.

www.crikey.com.au

if the alternative is a labor government then yea hopeless

that article is pretty annoying, its not subversive to point out uncritically how ACKTUALLY labor support israel’s ethnic cleansing as well like it makes morrison look bad

 

[Lawnchair Larry]

Surely there is more to come. It cannot be left hanging.

Tamed Estate: Christian Porter 'zero for three' but News Corp claimed Porter victory - Michael West

Legal experts were in no doubt Christian Porter had given up but News Corp madly spun the line that it was a humiliating backdown by the ABC.

www.michaelwest.com.au

 

[Lawnchair Larry]

In a democracy this is extremely worrying.

By all means if you think you have been defamed then take proceedings to court. But not this.

Take a look at the video link embedded in this article to get a feel what happened.

https://www.michaelwest.com.au/tame...ucer-attests-to-dangerous-state-of-democracy/

 

[GoTheMightyCrows]

This may get interesting.

Australia takes China to WTO over its trade sanctions on Australian wines

Coalition says despite going to the World Trade Organization it ‘remains open to engaging directly with Beijing to resolve the issue’

www.theguardian.com

 

[sobrave]

Lol Barnaby's back.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

Lol Barnaby's back.

If there was any doubt in anyone’s mind that the Nats are ******* idiots then today should remove it.