A big No from me
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Then he should have won a flag at St Kilda with a better list.
Isn’t that what the development coaches are there for?
It always is unless they're already proven (like Clarkson, Hardwick etc.). Lyon isn't proven and there are a number of question marks, otherwise the poll wouldn't be so bad against having him.
What does that even mean? Where did this come from? Why does this even matter?
We have plenty of scope to have a secondary coach that connects with the young players ... Ross doesn't need to do everything related to the players.
I've heard a lot from past players that say how high they rate Lyon as a coach and leader.
I'm sure young players have developed under Ross and prospered. Such a simplistic pov to say 'he can't develop players'.
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Lyon isn’t proven?
Are we using different definitions?
What does that even mean? Where did this come from? Why does this even matter?
We have plenty of scope to have a secondary coach that connects with the young players ... Ross doesn't need to do everything related to the players.
I've heard a lot from past players that say how high they rate Lyon as a coach and leader.
I'm sure young players have developed under Ross and prospered. Such a simplistic pov to say 'he can't develop players'.
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Even more daming look what Brisbane have done in the same periodSo how would you rate Lyon's ability as a list builder during 2016-2019?
This is what has many of us questioning his ability to build a list
2016 - 16th
2017 - 14th
2018 - 14th
2019 - 13th
Most coaches wouldn't even get 4 years with a record like that.
Ross was great when Freo had a premiership caliber squad, but it's hard to argue that the last four years (when he didn't have a premiership caliber list at his disposal) haven't been a complete failure.
This is me 100%. We need someone strong enough to cut through the BS the club has been wallowing in. We need someone who can demand more from the administration and from the players. He could be that person.I'm torn. Kind of think maybe our players need a no nonsense dude... but absolutely loathe the man and his footy style.
Freo have been unlucky in forwards.I actually rate Lyon, but my issue with him coaching us in 2020 is that he's a finisher and not a builder.
He's an elite tactician and knows how to get every drop out of a pre-built squad, but there's massive question marks over his ability to be able to build and develop a list.
Freo gave him four seasons to rebuild their list and in my opinion he failed.
Great coach, but not the right fit for a list that is going to need a substantial rebuild.
He also wants to be the Coach, CEO and List Manager all at the same time and is not great in building relationships within his own footy deptThis is me 100%. We need someone strong enough to cut through the BS the club has been wallowing in. We need someone who can demand more from the administration and from the players. He could be that person.
However, everything I've heard about him (and I know a few players who played under him at Fremantle) is not great. He's a nasty, nasty man. He has favourites who can do no wrong and genuinely despises everyone else. You will get a club with a small group of players that are in the inner circle and then the rest who can't stand him. You also get zero development of players.
Unfortunately, I think the bad outweighs the good by a considerable margin.
This is the key for mine, he wants to control everything. You cant do that in this day and ageHe also wants to be the Coach, CEO and List Manager all at the same time and is not great in building relationships within his own footy dept
Some of his press conferences with year were a bit wierd as he talked more about himself then he did the team
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He's not a statue. People develop you know ... Right person wrong time/place happens in every industry.This is the key for mine, he wants to control everything. You cant do that in this day and age
Except he was the EXACT same coach at Fremantle as he was at St. Kilda. He has demonstrated no development.He's not a statue. People develop you know ... Right person wrong time/place happens in every industry.
He would not be the same coach he was at St Kilda or Freo that he will be at Adelaide.
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Says who ??He's not a statue. People develop you know ... Right person wrong time/place happens in every industry.
He would not be the same coach he was at St Kilda or Freo that he will be at Adelaide.
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Jarryd Lyon and Andy Ottens like this.It be worth it just to see people call him Lyons and then to see the people that get upset over those sorts of things get annoyed.
Says who ??
He stuck to his core beliefs at Fremantle and it didn't work. I somewhat admire that, but if you're stubborn to change to the environment around you then it'll be a slog.
Wouldn't mind him in a director of coaching role but not the main job.