POLL: Who do we want as coach next year?

[Aphrodite]

Business as usual for the Blues

Following a number of media enquiries over the last 24 hours, Carlton President Stephen Kernahan confirmed it was business as usual for the Club in the lead up to the final game of the season against St Kilda on Sunday.

“Everyone at the Club is terribly disappointed with the loss on Saturday night, however it does not change our position in relation to reviewing our operations at the end of the season,” Kernahan said.

“After the weekend’s matches we now know Sunday’s game against St Kilda will be our final match for the season. There will be no decisions and indeed no further meetings to review the operations of the Club until after Sunday’s game.”

Business as usual for the Blues

 

[pepalenko]

It's going to be a loooong week.

 

[Aphrodite]

It's going to be a loooong week.

A very long week of speculation and rumours.

 

[Big Sim]

A very long week of speculation and rumours.

Yes indeed. Non stop jungle drums and BS.

 

[basil00]

Business as usual for the Blues





Business as usual for the Blues

No surprise there. Would be really dumb to sack ratts this week.

 

[redkettle]

Now if we had of won against GC would the conversation be any different...yes it would be we would have been blaming other results for our demise not the coach...........we won a final last year and went perilously close to beating the eags in Perth (minus Gibbs and Cruzer).....that was off making the finals two years running and bowing out early..that was off the worse period probably in our history....so what Ratts has done seems to me to be pretty good. Fast forward to 2012 we had every confidence that a top four spot should be reachable (can't hit a target you can't see) and justifiably so...we win our first 3 including one against 2010 premier and 2011 grand finalist..every reason to be confident...game plan looked good...then crunch foot off the pedal and the start of the worse injury run I can recall for CFC.....scraped our way back with what we had after being discounted as un final worthy and some great wins against quality opposition....almost there and yep we should have won against the GC....our worse lost for the year in more ways than one...so what will Ratts be judged on....one inexcusable loss that had we won we just might have scraped over the line and that;s a big might (Dockers put paid to that anyway).. we finish 10th not bottom

 

[Mr.Kennedy]

If he is to be replaced it would not be worth worrying about doing it this week.

I have said it before, if the players publicly announce that they want Ratts to stay then thats good enough for me. I recall Carrazzo and I think Murph bring it up but I want to hear/see it from all of them.
After the game this weekend they should get around him. I would take their silence as a NO.

 

[The_Wookie]

If he is to be replaced it would not be worth worrying about doing it this week.

I have said it before, if the players publicly announce that they want Ratts to stay then thats good enough for me. I recall Carrazzo and I think Murph bring it up but I want to hear/see it from all of them.
After the game this weekend they should get around him. I would take their silence as a NO.

Gibbs as well.

 

[Bluejob]

Keep Ratts for next year, honour the contract, lots of this year can't be attributed to him. Some can. The GC game was players fault imo.

End of next year take on Roos. I like Ratten, he's all blue, but if he can't deliver a premiership with our window open now for the next 2-3 years. What's the point?

 

[Big Red is back]

Good article

This time 12 months ago, Fremantle's board was faced with a similar problem that Carlton's is now: stick with a tried-and-tested coach who's delivered some success but hardly scaled the heights, or swallow hard and make a desperately tough call which will win you no friends in the short-term but might deliver you a premiership at some stage in the future.
Freo, as we know, grasped that particular nettle last September and went for Option B, delivering a bombshell coup that no-one saw coming, luring Ross Lyon away from a dithering St Kilda and west to the WA port city.
The Dockers wore massive opprobrium for weeks for the callous way they teated the incumbent Mark Harvey, sacking him without warning - and with one year to go on his contract - after Lyon, behind the scenes, responded favourably to their secret entreaties.
And Lyon himself was rounded on by not just St Kilda supporters (although there were many of them glad to be rid of his uber-negative tactics) but the footy world generally for his aloof, uncompromising and unapologetic manner. He ethics were questioned and he was called untrustworthy, disloyal, a mercenary and a gun for hire. And they were among the more complimentary descriptions.
In a statement at the time, Freo boss Steve Rosich said: ''It was an extremely difficult decision to make but after lengthy consideration it is a decision that we believe is in the best interests of the long-term future of the Fremantle Football Club.''
It is only now that the Dockers' directors can now sit back around the board table and let out a sigh of relief because it is evident their decision to chase and sign Lyon was the correct call. The club's performance in the second half of the season has vindicated their bite-the-bullet moment. The ends have justified the messy means.
They haven't won a flag yet, and probably won't this year, but the Dockers are now playing the sort of football that will worry any side. And Lyon's been at the helm for all of 21 senior matches.
After early hiccups, and with a playing style that some commentators such as Kevin Bartlett and Mark Maclure described effectively as turgid, unwatchable dross, the Dockers are finally hitting their stride. They are playing football the way Lyon likes it played: tough and uncompromising but rarely pretty.
The way the Dockers shut down North Melbourne, the league's second most prolific side, on Sunday was a tribute to Lyon's coaching. They simply harassed the Roos out of the game with relentless pressure and hard work. The Roos couldn't cope with the onslaught: they delivered 28 clanger kicks and finished with only 104 effective kicks for the game - their fewest this season.
Lyon is no-one's idea of a warm, cuddly type. He is a hard-arse and absolutely unbending in his methods. Yet he inspires a terrific loyalty from his players and it would seem, after years of underperformance from WA's second side, those players have 'bought in' to the Lyon Method.
The coach is obviously no guarantee of delivering the Dockers their maiden premiership but all the evidence would suggest he's a damn sight better placed to do that than his predecessor.
Harvey's best result in five seasons in charge at Freo was a sixth placing in 2010; Carlton's Brett Ratten has a best result of seventh (in 2009) in his five full seasons at the helm.
So Carlton's directors this week - as the debate over Ratten's future intensifies, and the grey-headed spectre of Mick Malthouse looms in the background - have at least a template to work from. Stick with Ratten, the safe pair of hands who has a year of his contract to run, or punt on the ageing but proven premiership proposition in Malthouse. This is the Blues' Ross Lyon moment.

 

[blueboy25]

Harvey's best result in five seasons in charge at Freo was a sixth placing in 2010; Carlton's Brett Ratten has a best result of seventh (in 2009) in his five full seasons at the helm.
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Didn't we finish 5th last year?

 

[blueboy25]

I hope the club makes the strong and bold decision to keep Ratts when everyone outside of the club especially the media have already decided Ratts is gone.

One one hand you could take the freo option of sacking your coach and going out and buying a proven coach or you write the year off as a one off like Geelong did with Thompson and Hawthorn did with Clarkson a couple of seasons back when they missed the 8.

 

[Sin City]

Didn't we finish 5th last year?

Yes, but we shouldn't let facts get in the way of another BRIB rant.

 

[CaptainCharisma]

Poll was started Saturday morning, I wonder what the results were/have been in the before/after GCS result.

I think Malthouse is the best man for the job, I don't think Ratten should be flicked unless a proven senior coach is available.

No point trying a first-time coach while Ratten has a year on his contract.

 

[blueblooded]

Before Saturday I'd say Ratten, thought the team had turned the corner in the last month...then I look at the form of the sides we've beaten and the dismall performance on Saturday which has to be the worst loss in the clubs history and seriously his position is now unteneble. The first quarter of the game on Saturday and in fact the first half and the last quarter were nothing short of disgraceful and for that somebody needs to take reponsibility. It's his job to prepare the team 22 games a season and he has been unable to do this...the players pick and choose.

Get Malthouse or even Choco Williams in now and lets start rattling the cages of these primadonnas! Let MM bring in a Dean Laidley type as an assistant and I reckon with any luck you'll see massive improvements in attitude week to week and game style as early as next year...we've got the cattle, they've shown it over the past few years we can play footy, just need that uncomprimising attitude and leadership that a Malthouse type would bring, Ratts god love him just can't seem to get it out of them as much as is necessary to win a flag.

If Ratts stays you can bet your bottom dollar we'd lose between 5-10k member next year and that on its own will be reason enough to stamp his papers.

 

[The_Wookie]

If we get choco williams Ill be most unimpressed.

 

[BLUEALLTHRU]

It's Ratten for me

 

[topic97]

Looks like you guys may pull off the double whammy of malthouse and cloke - going to be bloody tough to play against if you snag them both!

Listened to the whole Malthouse interview on 3aw this morning & someone has certainly approached him about coaching somewhere next year.
He has totally changed his tune, he has been pedaling the same line all year about being happy with what he is doing and not being interested in coaching anymore to now saying its now or never for him to coach and he still enjoys it etc.

He is yours, congrats!
Bad for the rest of the comp though....

 

[Silvagnis]

Plus one for Walls' comments.

 

[goreds]

Plus one for Walls' comments.

Hope you're recording channel 7 as well... Kouta about to speak!

 

[Wickzki]

Don't want an over the hill Malthouse, what happens in less than five years when our young guns are still at the top of their game? Don't want Paul Roos whose heart was no longer in the club that he loved, how would it be in Carlton?

 

[Wickzki]

Kouta advocating change and in the same speech spouts off Elliott's philosophy.

 

[pepalenko]

Kouta advocating change and in the same speech spouts off Elliott's philosophy.

As much as I loved him as a player I can't take much of what Kouta says with much respect.

 

[Big Red is back]

Don't want an over the hill Malthouse, what happens in less than five years when our young guns are still at the top of their game? Don't want Paul Roos whose heart was no longer in the club that he loved, how would it be in Carlton?

in five years after two flags I won't care

 

[The Smaller Warrior]

And yet plenty at Port would have him back.

lol?

Who? Jenny Williams? Justin Westhoff?