Polls Thread Mk III

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Turnbull will be gone by the budget but replaced by whom.

See, that's the problem - I can't think of anyone in the LNP ATM who has Howard's political savvy. It is a long time until 2019 but I cannot see that their ratings will much improve from now until then because there is too much division within the party and their policies in general are much too ill-considered.

At best I expect there might be a brief improvement in poll ratings before reality ensues - unless the ALP commits a major faux pas or the LNP rolls back some of its more major policy misfires (pension cuts, Centrelink robo-debt debacles). However, I just can't see the LNP doing that ATM.
 
Turnbull will be gone by the budget but replaced by whom.

Peter "Potato" Dutton seems to be the new first choice of the right, after Morrison turned traitor and backed Turnbull at the last spill.

His name should start showing up in coalition preferred leader polls pretty soon.
 
Peter "Potato" Dutton seems to be the new first choice of the right, after Morrison turned traitor and backed Turnbull at the last spill.

His name should start showing up in coalition preferred leader polls pretty soon.

"Prime Minister Peter Dutton" are we really ready to stoop that low? Really?
 
Best thing the Libs can do is go all or nothing and introduce a federal ICAC and hope more mud sticks to labour than themselves...risky, but a thorough clean out would turn public opinion.

That would be brave given the record of the NSW ICAC. i.e. LNP and Labor are both up to their necks in dodgy brothers deals.
 

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Peter "Potato" Dutton seems to be the new first choice of the right, after Morrison turned traitor and backed Turnbull at the last spill.

His name should start showing up in coalition preferred leader polls pretty soon.
Please let this happen. Purely for the lols it would deliver
 
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It's on
 
I cant believe Dutton is a serious contender.

The liberals need to wind themselves up.
They had bishop as a serious contender once
That's Bronwyn bishop. She'd rival Dutton in the dumbarse stakes.

Criticism of Shorten is null and void while dutton is seriously discussed
 
"Liberal Party" is a blatant lie from the outset. Has been for years. Liberal my arse.

I see this said very often. I used to say it myself.

Their title means Economic liberals.

Which they more or less are.

I guess the libertarian element could be considered somewhat socially liberal; but the party as a whole never claimed to be socially liberal.
 
I see this said very often. I used to say it myself.

Their title means Economic liberals.

Which they more or less are.

I guess the libertarian element could be considered somewhat socially liberal; but the party as a whole never claimed to be socially liberal.

Their title means nothing. They are old school industrial or even colonial era capitalists with conservative social politics mostly designed to keep the masses fighting and appease their religious nut wing.

Their previous name was the nationalist party, thats pretty much what they still are. They just use the term liberal for subterfuge.

Australias dominant economic ideology has always been socialism, we have never really embraced the imaginary concept of the free market (because there is no evidence it works to do anything other than impoverish people).

Australias current primary economic argument is between foreign owned monopolies vs the workers of Australia. Guess which team the LNP are on!
 
Their title means nothing. They are old school industrial or even colonial era capitalists with conservative social politics mostly designed to keep the masses fighting and appease their religious nut wing.

Their previous name was the nationalist party, thats pretty much what they still are. They just use the term liberal for subterfuge.

Australias dominant economic ideology has always been socialism, we have never really embraced the imaginary concept of the free market (because there is no evidence it works to do anything other than impoverish people).

Australias current primary economic argument is between foreign owned monopolies vs the workers of Australia. Guess which team the LNP are on!

I'm sorry but that's simply nonsense, and self contradictory. No one votes liberal thinking they are socially liberal. It's not subterfuge.

The Liberal party have formed government more often than any other party, so there's a real detachment between your claims that Australia is primarily socialist and the Libs are a nationalist party.
 

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