News Port Adelaide announces co-captains - Ollie Wines and Tom Jonas

Who will be Port Adelaide's captain in 2019

  • Ollie Wines

    Votes: 132 43.4%
  • Tom Jonas

    Votes: 96 31.6%
  • Hamish Hartlett

    Votes: 16 5.3%
  • Robbie Gray

    Votes: 10 3.3%
  • Justin Westhoff

    Votes: 5 1.6%
  • Charlie Dixon

    Votes: 2 0.7%
  • Jack Watts

    Votes: 29 9.5%
  • No, not them. This guy

    Votes: 14 4.6%

  • Total voters
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Kingfish73

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His shoulder may very well be preventing him from doing that, they've said he will (most likely) need a full reco come the end of the year.
The problem is, without him doing the bull role he has no other weapons in his game. Cut your losses, get full reco and move on. We have enough inside midfielder anyway. If Ollie was protecting his shoulder and limiting his game style that would be criminal. Imo he is shot on confidence and was never ready to be skipper.
 

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Feel sorry for him. He obviously cares. If he's playing injured, he needs to rest otherwise he's a liability for us.
It's not a rest, a full shoulder reconstruction is year over. Move on to net year, they wont do that unless the year is over.

But your right, if he cant do the stoppage work he has been doing the last few years he's a liability and there are better options.
 
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We've matched peak Primus when not one official leader was available. How's our luck having three injury susceptible leaders picked pre season who aren't available this week ...
 

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Hope Travis reverts to wearing the no 1 guernsey just to stick it up 'em. Then again Boaky will not want to rock the KKK boat so it will not happen.
For all that has happened this week, the KKK should take the initative and: (a) make us play with the Prison Bars (f*ck Eddie and the AFL); and (b) give Boak the #1 guernsey. It would be only for the Showdown, but it doesn't matter.

Make it a surprise. Put NTUA to play, raise the banner (the prison bars, with nothing written on), and let the players march in lead by Boak.

The oval would go completely bananas! Do we want people to be on the club's side? Let's do this.

AFL would gives us a fine; which is ok. We could pay it smiling.
 
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Tom Jonas is pretty impressive in his interviews. I had thought that Ollie would be the one for the media stuff and Jonas for the on field leadership but I tell you what, Jonas is a lot better to listen to and pretty insightful.
Yeah. I'd like him to cease readily claiming that we love being the underdog and to embrace the supporters. I know it is language used by others at the club but I really want our captains to think for themselves.
 

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KT admitting co captains was an unpopular decision
It was infuriating listening to KT speak this afternoon. Admitting that the downturn in membership would be in part due to them going down this path and the accummulative affect or our performances of the last few years. No sh*t sherlock. Just maintain the status quo. Don't complain when the downward trend continues.
 

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We should have a eight-man leadership group: a captain and a vice-captain for each line, and a capitain and vice-captain of the youngsters (21 or under at the beginning of the season - for them to exercise and improve leadership).

The squad captain (#1 guernsey) would be one of the three line captains. No official VC.

This season, it would have been:
Backs: Jonas (c); Hartlett (vc)
Mids: Wines (c); Rockliff (vc)
Forwards: Ebert (c); Dixon (vc)
Youngs*: Houston (c); Duursma (vc)

This would avoid any need for co-captaincy. The #1 guernsey would have been given to Wines (after all, he was the next in line after Boak), but Jonas would still have been made captain. No controversy. Everything would have been fine.

We would have only THREE of the eight-man group playing, which is scary. It is even scarier that TWO would be 21 or under.

*Those are my picks. All others in italics were in the 2018 leadership group.
 
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Gees Wines was a much better player in '13 and '14. Why has he declined rather than elevated his game?
Ate too many pies it seems and didn't improve, but has just plateaued. can't kick can't play footy at afl level, basically.

Jacob Wilson of Champion Data on 3AW in late January explained Ollie's average rating at

https://omny.fm/shows/3aw-sportsday/jacob-wilson-from-champion-data-explains-why-ollie

Says ball winning elite. Since he debuted in Rd 1 2013, 223 players have had 1,000 kicks or more. His kicking efficiency is the 2nd worst. Shots on goal, he has the worst accuracy for shot on goal.
 

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Gees Wines was a much better player in '13 and '14. Why has he declined rather than elevated his game?
Because our coaching staff haven’t pushed him or helped him develop his weaknesses.

Same reason that Dixon hasn’t improved his marking or goal kicking as a KPF because Ken tells him he just needs to play his role and “bring the ball to ground”.
 

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Ate too many pies it seems and didn't improve, but has just plateaued. can't kick can't play footy at afl level, basically.

Jacob Wilson of Champion Data on 3AW in late January explained Ollie's average rating at

https://omny.fm/shows/3aw-sportsday/jacob-wilson-from-champion-data-explains-why-ollie

Says ball winning elite. Since he debuted in Rd 1 2013, 223 players have had 1,000 kicks or more. His kicking efficiency is the 2nd worst. Shots on goal, he has the worst accuracy for shot on goal.
Damning considering he seemed like a reliable shot in 2013 - 2014.


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Because our coaching staff haven’t pushed him or helped him develop his weaknesses.

Same reason that Dixon hasn’t improved his marking or goal kicking as a KPF because Ken tells him he just needs to play his role and “bring the ball to ground”.
Are we so focused on coaching a team-oriented (shitty) gameplan that we neglect individual skills coaching on a personalised basis?


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