Steve Dore
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lol, it was a surprise to find them at the club.
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I'm hoping it will be the end of IliasYes Kochie KT are just are just to blame for extending a contracted coach and supporter who clap way accepting excuses. Now the rebuilding is in full swing. 2020 I’m hopeful will be the end of Hinkley Voss
We absolutely can't allow a coach to continue to coach after trying to walk out on the club ......... oh, wait.You absolutely can’t allow Wines to be captain after trying to walk out on the the club this year.
Is that fact is it?You absolutely can’t allow Wines to be captain after trying to walk out on the the club this year.
Personally after doing that, on top of a garbage year partly brought in by his wakeboarding incident I’d seriously consider starting him out of the side and force him to earn his spot back.
What kind of message does making him captain send ? Ruins his shoulder wakeboarding, gets made co captain. Then trys to walk out on the club 12 months later, after his worst year so we should promote him to sole captain.???Is that fact is it?
Wont change until Hinkley goes. He wanted it, he got it and he won’t admit he was wrong.They are just doing the same thing as last year. Waiting till renewals are done before ******* everyone with co-captains.
He should of been sole captain this yr I still believe he can lead and get back to his best which is what we need to happen.What kind of message does making him captain send ? Ruins his shoulder wakeboarding, gets made co captain. Then trys to walk out on the club 12 months later, after his worst year so we should promote him to sole captain.???
Seriously? Are you 12?Im not renewing my membership this year if Wines stays captain.
How could the club let someone stay captain after trying to force his way out of the club? It send the completely wrong message.
So what have they done that’s been disrespectful?
Of course they are going to defend the cocaptaincy. I defy any one of us to have responded differently in the same position. Otherwise, what is Jonas really guilty of? Having foot-in-mouth? Being a poor speaker?
What about Wines? His skiing?... Performed before his captaincy. Carlton-gate?... After the season has ended, and unconfirmed in veracity.
I personally think that events have transpired together to make this cocaptaincy become the debacle it is. Some of their own making, but many that are not. The vitriol at times has been over the top, and IMO must be directed at the real culprits.... KKK
Maybe try reading my post in context.
But yes, he did mention five other people of whom only Koch is also on the board. Vanstone was the only board member blamed that isn't the chairman.
When do players push themselves? The top level of players are coached well to a degree but they have personal drive and elite standards in themselves to get to the top and stay there. Besides Boak, Robbie and Westhoff who amongst our senior group has that drive and determination you can see? The list after those three drops off significantly.
It seems it's always someone or something else's fault with this group. Oh we had ASADA suspensions this year, we've had injuries that year, we're coached by Hinkley, the fans are to hard on us and whatever else has been used and said over 5 years. That's as big of a part of the reason we are middle of the pack, on top of Hinkley. But it's never mentioned.
I never saw Hawthorn in their run whinge about anything, they had elite standards amongst the playing group and in their leaders on field that drove them, on top of Clarkson, ditto Geelong, Sydney were the same.
We've failed in that regard.
For someone who is sick of "bullying" posts this sure does seem hypocritical.Seriously? Are you 12?
Not deliberately insulting, but do you know how childish that sounds?
Adult decides how to spend own money. More at 11.I don't know how he interpreted that as childish to be honest, Wines is literally a child and people don't want to support him being gifted the captaincy, not hard to understand
I'm just really pissed off at all of Wines BS after him being my favourite player since he was drafted. Has he even had surgery yet?Seriously? Are you 12?
Not deliberately insulting, but do you know how childish that sounds?
Seriously? Are you 12?
Not deliberately insulting, but do you know how childish that sounds?
Going in for surgery means no wake boarding this year. Ollie wont have that.I'm just really pissed off at all of Wines BS after him being my favourite player since he was drafted. Has he even had surgery yet?
Yeah I'm sure the club is letting him put it off to hit the river lolGoing in for surgery means no wake boarding this year. Ollie wont have that.
lol, it was a surprise to find them at the club.