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[Port Adelaide Football Club Est. 1870 now play in the AFL.
Prior to this they fielded a side in the SANFL where their nickname was known as "the Magpies" a nickname they had for 85 years.
Prior to this they were known by several different nicknames, The ****le divers, seasiders, mudholians, Portonians, Magentas,
The SANFL now fields a club known as
the "PORT ADELAIDE MAGPIES FOOTBALL CLUB"
This club continues with the tradition of the old Port Adelaide Football Club which gave the SANFL club its logo and colours on its ascent to the AFL where it added Teal and Silver to its Logo.

Go to the Official PORT ADELAIDE FOOTBALL CLUB SITE and look up the History section it will show you. www.portadelaidefc.com.au

The Port Magpies Site, though it acknowledges the duplicity of the two clubs History, ALSO ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THE PORT ADELAIDE FOOTBALL CLUB "ADDED" Teal and Silver to its colours "PRIOR" to moving to the A.F.L. The Magpies still share the history of Port Adelaide. It is a unique duplicity.
 
Originally posted by Grave Danger:
Well that shut the ignoramuses up didn't it! Good post.

Grave, I cant stand it !!! most of them have no Idea, they arent aware of what occured with the AFL bid or how the new sanfl side was set up or how Port moved to the AFL, You see they are afraid of Port and anything to dilute Port is fine by them, also they talk amongst themselves and any hear say is what they run with.
Thanks for your input Grave.
 

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That's true Port Adelaide 1870, just as many people have no idea what occured with the merger between Fitzroy and the Brisbane Bears. The Brisbane Lions are a new club! I too wasn't that aware of Port Adelaide's exact status in the AFL, although I did regard them as being the same club as the Port Adelaide Magpies in the SANFL before 1997. I agree with everything you have said.
 
So the "Real" port adelaide is proud to have players from nearly every SANFL team, and even from Victoria playing for them, making that sound like hmmm, just another composite team??? Hmm, the club founders must be really turning in their graves.
 
Originally posted by JohnB:
So the "Real" port adelaide is proud to have players from nearly every SANFL team, and even from Victoria playing for them, making that sound like hmmm, just another composite team??? Hmm, the club founders must be really turning in their graves.

you would see all Victorian based sides and all AFL clubs have players from different locations.

Prior to leaving The SANFL Port Adelaide also had players from a number of VFL then later AFL clubs playing for them it wasnt uncommon, what is the thrust of your argument?
 
It doesn't matter what happened when the "official trademarking" of names took place.

All that is is an attempt to "relate' the two clubs to each other. I can live with that. Fair enough. Obviously the two clubs are related. Any dill can see that.

The success of the black and white Port Adelaide Magpies in the SANFL, gave them a big enough supporter base to support a seperate team in the AFL.

Look, if the Magpies stopped playing in the SANFL, and shifted to the AFL and played as Port Adelaide, then of course they are the same club.

But the fact that the Magpies STILL play in the SANFL, regardless of any "trademarking of names" or politics that happened when the Power was formed, completely destroys your argument.

it destroys your argument in every possible sense and make you look stupid.

The Maggies still play. Often they play, at the same time as the Power. Forget the trading names of the clubs. As I said, that is just officials trying to "make things official". They are trying to somehow relate the clubs.

When Port Power run out, they have won NO premeirships, and have a short 3 years history.

Nearly everyone regards the as seperate clubs. When there are TWO teams running around, they HAVE to be seperate. How can it not be ? There are TWO F*CKING clubs running around on the field each week. Were you aware of this blatantly obvious fact ?

Get it through your thick South Australian skull.
 
Dear Dan

I unfortunately cannot see through your personal abuse
and talk of officials and trademarks and links.
The Port Adelaide Football club no longer plays in the SANFL it left , It no longer fields a team at that level.
It is the club and its members who owned the rights to the Magpies logo and Guernsey.

We agve them up in 1995, we voted to close the club down and a new one be formed at SANFL level... Called the Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club formed 1995.


Port Adelaide Football club formerly the Magpies now Port Power now plays in the AFL.

They are the Facts.

You also discuss officials and trademarks and registrations, of course that is correct it is how a club is registered wherever it goes. We the mebers moved it
If you didnt like the decision in 1995 you should have voted against it.

It was made clear to all and sundry the event was going to occur.

Of course the New Magpies are going to run with the Tradition Story, No other club in Adelaide liketo think they arent playing against an arch rival. there is no better team to beat than the Perception of the Port Adelaide Football Club.
 
Don't waste your breath (fingers?) PA1870, these fools are incapable of appreciating the unique situation with Port Adelaide.

PAFC joined the AFL in 1997 after 127 years and 34 premierships in the SANFL and its predecessors. Yes, PAFC haven't won any AFL premierships yet, but they still have a 130 year history.

Although the SANFL like to think of Port Power as their second franchise and have done everything they can to separate them from the Magpies, fortunately they had the sense to realise that the SANFL still needs the Magpies. So although the letterhead and company records show them as separate entities, Port Adelaide has a team in the AFL and a team in the SANFL, they just can't both be called "Port Adelaide Football Club" due to petty bureaucracy.

The difficult times Port are facing at the moment aren't helped by the fact that most people DO see the Power and Magpies as the same thing, and now that the Power aren't winning many games it's only the die hard Port supporters who are sticking with them.
 
Originally posted by chev1977:
who wrote all those fake web pages you buddy ? I bet you did !

dont bother responding you make me laugh

brb I have to go the toilet I am nearly pissing myself laughing


Hey grave Danger,

It seems curiosity got the better of this young abuser !! He went to Ports Web page and called them Fake. Now we know he makes up what he wishes to believe in based on what is in his head at that particular moment.. Take your medicine son and get yourself a Manager, you need to stop handling yourself.
 
You seem to have a hard time undestanding.

It doesn't matter if Port Adelaide changed their name in 1995. It doesn't matter if they are nw known as the Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club", or whatever the hell they are called.

When the 1996 season started in the SANFL, the Magpies ran out on the field with their black and white, as they had done for over 100 years.

I don't care if the "officials" of the club changed the name, or registered some stupid trademark, or gave the club to the memebers. That's not the point.

When 1996 started, the Magpies were there, competing. If you look at any media guide beufre the 1996 SANFL season, it would say : "Port Adelaide - 35 premierships", or however many they had won to that point.

If they were a brand new club, then why do the Magpies, still have the Official rcord of 36 premeirshis ? Why ?

You see that is where your argument fails, and makes you look like a dill. Sorry, but it does.

Port Adelaide Magpies, play now, as they did in 1994, and 1995, and 1996. They still continue their tradition of all those premierships. If some bozo official changes some "trading" name, or whateber, so what ?

Ask any fan who follows the SANFL, and I'm sure they will tell you that the Magpies, compete in 2000, just like they did in 1999, or 1995, or 1994, or 1970, etc etc.

Meanwhile, while that Magpies play, the Port Power ALSO play. Thet play seperate to, and often at the same time as the Magpies. If you think these two team are the same, then you are a fool. There ar TWO f*cking teams out there. The Magpies didn't move to the AFL. They stayed in the SANFL. They are still there. Go have a look. The Power is the seperate club in the AFL. Yes, they are linked, and related, I'll give you that.

Obviously, the two clubs share a common-bond, but that doesnt make them the same team.

As I said, the fact that the Magpies, still play in the SANFL, no different to how they did in 1994, or 1993 etc, destroys your argument in all possible ways.
 

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How many players taken from the SANFL did port adelaide magpies have in its team before port adelaide power played in its first ever game in 1997?
The answer : 1 or 2 - therefore port adelaide power is just another composite team.
 
Originally posted by Dan24:
You seem to have a hard time undestanding.

It doesn't matter if Port Adelaide changed their name in 1995. It doesn't matter if they are nw known as the Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club", or whatever the hell they are called.

When the 1996 season started in the SANFL, the Magpies ran out on the field with their black and white, as they had done for over 100 years.

I don't care if the "officials" of the club changed the name, or registered some stupid trademark, or gave the club to the memebers. That's not the point.

When 1996 started, the Magpies were there, competing. If you look at any media guide beufre the 1996 SANFL season, it would say : "Port Adelaide - 35 premierships", or however many they had won to that point.

If they were a brand new club, then why do the Magpies, still have the Official rcord of 36 premeirshis ? Why ?

You see that is where your argument fails, and makes you look like a dill. Sorry, but it does.

Port Adelaide Magpies, play now, as they did in 1994, and 1995, and 1996. They still continue their tradition of all those premierships. If some bozo official changes some "trading" name, or whateber, so what ?

Ask any fan who follows the SANFL, and I'm sure they will tell you that the Magpies, compete in 2000, just like they did in 1999, or 1995, or 1994, or 1970, etc etc.

Meanwhile, while that Magpies play, the Port Power ALSO play. Thet play seperate to, and often at the same time as the Magpies. If you think these two team are the same, then you are a fool. There ar TWO f*cking teams out there. The Magpies didn't move to the AFL. They stayed in the SANFL. They are still there. Go have a look. The Power is the seperate club in the AFL. Yes, they are linked, and related, I'll give you that.

Obviously, the two clubs share a common-bond, but that doesnt make them the same team.

As I said, the fact that the Magpies, still play in the SANFL, no different to how they did in 1994, or 1993 etc, destroys your argument in all possible ways.

Dear Dan,
it seems you are now beginning to use rational thought processes in your argument
rather than bigotted ,irrational , bludgeoning.
This is a start.
Now Let me explain once again how a club works....

The Officials did not give the club to the members as you some how mistakenly believe.

The Club
1. Belonged to the Members.
2. Not the Fans, who saw them on TV, not the Kids in the school yard who barracked for the Magpies, Not the blokes at work who talked footy tips around the coffee machine,
Not interstate onlookers who once followed Port, not the ones who wished Port didnt move to the AFL.

but it belonged to the members

Like ford Motor Company belongs to its shareholders. It doesnt matter if you as a consumer purchase a Ford Falcon, If the share holders i.e. members change the name of the car and call it a Ford dynamo and Shift Ford to Russia from America It is still the Ford Motor Company only the name of the model has changed.
You see the club did not belong to the MAGPIE LOGO, nor the Players nor the Officials,nor the barrackers nor the TV fans
it belonged essentially to its members, the people who vote on whether it retains its name or changes leagues or plays another sport for that matter.
If the Port Adelaide Football Club members decided to relinquish its place in the AFL and apply for a position in the Rugby league
as the Port Adelaide Football Club Nicknamed the Giants, the clubs board must do as its members say , but if the AFL said it wanted to retain a Port style team in its competition and call it the Port Adelaide Port Power Football club and we as members agreed!

It would not be the Port Adelaide Football club as that club would have moved on and taken its spoils from the SANFL and AFL with it and so on.

The magpies is a logo for a new club,,
Port Adelaide has left the SANFL and does not field a team there anymore it has gone
so did its coach,president, board, trainers,members.officials,lock stock and barrel.
we then gave the New Port Adelaide Magpies football club our guernseys for their players and our logo , they have training facilities away from our Club, the Port Adelaide football club.

They have new offices for their new office people and trainers, they have a new president and board, another postal address, New phone lines and numbers, New coach and assistants new runners,
they only wear the same guernsey we use to
and our old logo/ motif..We gone to AFL now

We dont play in the SANFL anymore, we left
and a new CLUB was Formed, not a new registration or trademark, they are incidental....A new Club, A new Club, A new Club. The Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club formed 1995.

The Port Adelaide Football Club Est. 1870 has changed its logo by decree of its members and moved to the AFL, but we still have our changerooms at ALBERTON, our offices , our Postal address, our same phone and fax lines , the same board , Chief executive, trainers, runners, President, the same Oval, Alberton. That is the way it is with clubs, it is not an argument or a point to prove.. It is what we as members decreed for our Club.

Now if you dont like it or agree with what has happened, well that is a different point, We have left a Magpie style team for you to ponder over in the SANFL and have irrational arguments with people on the net.

enough.
 
But they're still both Port Adelaide
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As a member of both P.A.F.C. (afl) & P.A.M.F.C. (sanfl) there is only one thing we always focus on..... Port Adelaide Football Club, ONE club, 2 teams, DOMINATION OF THE NATION. To all the real Port members, (we know who we are & stuff everyone else) see you at footy park sept. 10th, premiership no. 37.
P.A.M.F.C.- THE GREATEST FOOTBALL CLUB IN AUSTRALIA.
 
I was at the meeting & voted to change the club structure for afl entry. Any real Port supporter will tell you, we would have been happy to stay as one club, one name etc. It was only the bleating of the sanfl & all the other clubs in that league that insisted we run as two seperate clubs. Unfortunately, the current P.A.F.C. (afl) board went overboard to ensure this was seen to be done. They are now falling on their own sword. Sure, we have to run the ONE CLUB as two seperate identities but that doesn't mean we can't work together as ONE CLUB toward the common goal (success). For snubbing the Magpies sector of the club the afl sector are now slowly being voted out when possible by us, the members, for a new board which will see us as ONE CLUB again. If you think this is unrealistic, explain to me the agenda for Max James being voted to the board with the backing of Geoff Motley etc. Only a couple more years before the current board is completely voted out & real Port people are running the club again. One question remains, how many senior games did the current P.A.F.C. board play for the club in total? Max James (premiership player) etc. are only just the beginning.
Bring on the revolution. Give the Port Adelaide Football Club back to Port Adelaide people, don't leave it to afl arse kissing stuffed shirts (Boulton, Monteleone etc. etc.)
Big Bob Mclean would be spinning in his grave if he saw what the afl sectors board has done to the way the club currently operates.
PORT ADELAIDE FOOTBALL CLUB- one club, two competitons.....
DOMINATION OF THE NATION!!!!
 
Originally posted by Port Patriot:
I was at the meeting & voted to change the club structure for afl entry. Any real Port supporter will tell you, we would have been happy to stay as one club, one name etc. It was only the bleating of the sanfl & all the other clubs in that league that insisted we run as two seperate clubs. Unfortunately, the current P.A.F.C. (afl) board went overboard to ensure this was seen to be done. They are now falling on their own sword. Sure, we have to run the ONE CLUB as two seperate identities but that doesn't mean we can't work together as ONE CLUB toward the common goal (success). For snubbing the Magpies sector of the club the afl sector are now slowly being voted out when possible by us, the members, for a new board which will see us as ONE CLUB again. If you think this is unrealistic, explain to me the agenda for Max James being voted to the board with the backing of Geoff Motley etc. Only a couple more years before the current board is completely voted out & real Port people are running the club again. One question remains, how many senior games did the current P.A.F.C. board play for the club in total? Max James (premiership player) etc. are only just the beginning.
Bring on the revolution. Give the Port Adelaide Football Club back to Port Adelaide people, don't leave it to afl arse kissing stuffed shirts (Boulton, Monteleone etc. etc.)
Big Bob Mclean would be spinning in his grave if he saw what the afl sectors board has done to the way the club currently operates.
PORT ADELAIDE FOOTBALL CLUB- one club, two competitons.....
DOMINATION OF THE NATION!!!!

Port Patriot

Yes , Yes, yes,

However there are imbiciles who dont understand....

So before we can re unite we must adhere to the club as it is i.e. the port adelaide football club formerly the magpies now PORT POWER is in the AFL and the new PORT ADELAIDE MAGPIES FOOTBALL CLUB is in the SANFL Until we can vote those people out, we must continue the support as it is required.

Go PORT, whatever league !!!!!!
 
Originally posted by Port Patriot:
As a member of both P.A.F.C. (afl) & P.A.M.F.C. (sanfl) there is only one thing we always focus on..... Port Adelaide Football Club, ONE club, 2 teams, DOMINATION OF THE NATION. To all the real Port members, (we know who we are & stuff everyone else) see you at footy park sept. 10th, premiership no. 37.
P.A.M.F.C.- THE GREATEST FOOTBALL CLUB IN AUSTRALIA.


The second Greatest , after The Port Adelaide Football Club ( Formerly The Magpies )

34 SANFL Premierships before abdicating the SANFL to join the AFL
 
That's rubbish,

No new club was formed at all.

You can crap on all you like about how it belongs to the members, or how a new club was formed. That's a load of crap.

The Magpies run out in the SANFL in 2000, just lke they did in 1994. If they are a new club, then why the f*ck, are they attempting to win their 37th premiership ? Shouldn't it only be their first (or second ? I don't care about that second rate competiton, anyway). But anyway, my "non-caring" for Port is not the point.

My point is, that whether care about them or not, the Magpies still exist in the SANFL, as they did in 1995, or 1994 etc etc. Who cars if you believe a new club was formed. For all intents and purpoese, the "new" Port Magpies which according to you were formed in 1995, are the same club. What, do you think something magical happened, and all of a sudden when 1995 began, all history was stricken from the record, and the new club staretd from scratch with no premierships.

If you claim that the Magpies have won 36 premierships, then you also agree that nothing significant happened in 1995. See what I mean ? If they are a brand new club in 1995, why are you claiming in 2000 that they are aiming for their 37th premiership ? REPEAT : For all intents and proposes, they are the same club. Just because some official changed something, due to the birth of the Power, doesn't alter the Magpies, my friend.

Port Power play in their own right, while the Magpies, as they have done for 100 years STILL PLAY IN THE THE SANFL.

get that through your thick head.

Why I am even talking about the AFL's second most meningless club (behinfd Freo) is beyond me. They represent a small part of a small city of only a million, and basically no one outside the fishbowl that it South Australia, gives a rats toss-bag.

Adelaide Crows are 10 times more influential than Port. They are more successful than the Power, have more supporters (How they've got them is irrelevant, they've still got them), and they are richer.

The only reason i am commenting is becaue I hate reading crap that is blatantly wrong. It has to be said, that unlike the Magpies, the Power are sh*t. The Magpies play seperately to the power, and indeed will be playing this weekend (I'm assuming)

The Power will also play, and will probably lose, as always.

If you want to support a successful club, come over and support the mighty Bombers. You won't have to put up with any 94 point thrashings (like Round 1)
 
Originally posted by Dan24:
That's rubbish,

No new club was formed at all.

You can crap on all you like about how it belongs to the members, or how a new club was formed. That's a load of crap.

The Magpies run out in the SANFL in 2000, just lke they did in 1994. If they are a new club, then why the f*ck, are they attempting to win their 37th premiership ? Shouldn't it only be their first (or second ? I don't care about that second rate competiton, anyway). But anyway, my "non-caring" for Port is not the point.

My point is, that whether care about them or not, the Magpies still exist in the SANFL, as they did in 1995, or 1994 etc etc. Who cars if you believe a new club was formed. For all intents and purpoese, the "new" Port Magpies which according to you were formed in 1995, are the same club. What, do you think something magical happened, and all of a sudden when 1995 began, all history was stricken from the record, and the new club staretd from scratch with no premierships.

If you claim that the Magpies have won 36 premierships, then you also agree that nothing significant happened in 1995. See what I mean ? If they are a brand new club in 1995, why are you claiming in 2000 that they are aiming for their 37th premiership ? REPEAT : For all intents and proposes, they are the same club. Just because some official changed something, due to the birth of the Power, doesn't alter the Magpies, my friend.

Port Power play in their own right, while the Magpies, as they have done for 100 years STILL PLAY IN THE THE SANFL.

get that through your thick head.

Why I am even talking about the AFL's second most meningless club (behinfd Freo) is beyond me. They represent a small part of a small city of only a million, and basically no one outside the fishbowl that it South Australia, gives a rats toss-bag.

Adelaide Crows are 10 times more influential than Port. They are more successful than the Power, have more supporters (How they've got them is irrelevant, they've still got them), and they are richer.

The only reason i am commenting is becaue I hate reading crap that is blatantly wrong. It has to be said, that unlike the Magpies, the Power are sh*t. The Magpies play seperately to the power, and indeed will be playing this weekend (I'm assuming)

The Power will also play, and will probably lose, as always.

If you want to support a successful club, come over and support the mighty Bombers. You won't have to put up with any 94 point thrashings (like Round 1)

This is very difficult for me as I am finding it difficult not to tell you off like a Hapless student. It is not what I believe Son' nor whether I believe it belongs to the members, Nor whether a new club was formed,

Your personal abuse only shows how intellegent you really are.

It is not what I believe, but what has happened,

Where you there ? are you a member ?
NO !!! Were you there when we closed down the club ..? Nah DERRRR NO!!!

The members who owned the club, closed it down....

It was all over red rover....

They then PUT THEIR CLUB INTO THE AFL
AFTER CHANGING ITS NAME TO PORT POWER FROM THE MAGPIES !

THE MEMBERS WHO OWN THE CLUB , not you or your perception. like oh ! their goes a Port Adelaide Guernsey in the VFA that must be PORT ADELAIDE, NAH DERRRRRRR !!!


If the Glenelg Football Club changed their name to the Magpies would it still be the same Club that won 34 Premierships up Until 1995.. Oh ! really !!!

I think that you are just mischevious and imbicilic, a simpilton, me thinks, be off with you ...enough is enough

You are simply choosing to argue with out fact and throw meaningless abuse, you ( as You Put it ) my
friend are an IDIOT.

NO OFFICIALS CHANGED ANYTHING, THE PEOPLE WHO OWNED THE CLUB DID..


YOU POOR SIMPLE CHILD
 
So the people that owned the club did.

Yo are missing te point. You can talk about how the change made it "official" or whatever, but the fact is that the Port Magpies stil run out in 2000 like they did in 1994.

For all intents and purpoese, they are the same club. You didn't answer my question. If they are NOT the saem, then why are they attempting to win their 37th opremeirship, you knobhead ?

Do you know what rhe phrase "for all intents an purposes" means ? it's very importnat regarding this tpic, soi suggest you look it up.

Port Power are seperate my friend. As I seem to satte many , many time, the fatc that the Magpies still run around in the SANFL, as they have done for 100 yars, while the Power run around seperately to the Magpies in the AFL, destroys your argument.

Now remeber : "for all intents and purposes"

The people that barrack for the Magpies in 1994 still barrack for the Magpies in 2000. Tell them, it's not the same club. Tell them, they havn't won any premeirships.

Grow up.
 

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