Port Adelaide ' Power ' since 1870

[Port Adelaide 1870]

By chief Football writer of the Advertiser MichaelAngelo Rucci.
ADVERTISER FRIDAY AUG 11 2000.
The Port Adelaide Football Club has reaffirmed its name by dumping "PORT POWER" from it's logo and club song.
The AFL club also emphasised its history dates back to 1870- and not 1997 when it joined the AFL and discarded its black and white strip and magpie nickname to avoid a clash with Collingwood.
Port President Greg Boulton last night unveiled a new logo,simplifying the AFL club's nickname to just " POWER ".
He said he hoped the new logo would end the tendency to call the team " Port Power " - and he clarified the AFL club was 130 years old, carrying the " proud tradition "established in the SANFL.
The announcement brought no protest from the Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club, whose players continue to wear Port Adelaide's original black-and-white guernsey and
" Magpies " motif in the SANFL.
" It is only appropriate and proper that they reaffirm they are the ' Port Adelaide Football Club' and have been since 1870 ' Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club Chief Executive Paul Belton said.
We are the Magpies and they are the Power.
" We have had, for the past three years, and always will have, the role of continuing the Magpies' traditiions in the SANFL.
" The Port Adelaide Football Club in the AFL has the birthright of the club formed in 1870.
" We share the same heritage and history.
" One club - the Power - has the task of developing Port Adelaide's traditions in the AFL. We as the Magpies have the responsibility to continue the club's heritage in the SANFL.
The Port Adelaide Football Club added teal to its jumpers and adopted " Power " as its nickname when it entered the AFL in 1997 to appease Collingwood.
In the same year, the " Port AdelaideMagpies Football Club " was established for the SANFL competition.
Mr. Boulton said last night's announcement was designed to quash the widespread public perception that it was " Port Power " playing in the AFL, and not " Port Adelaide".
"Back on August 31, 1995 - when we launched our guernseys, logo and nickname for the AFL," he said.
" We are Port Adelaide, as we have been since 1870 when the club was formed. We do not accept being referred to as the " Port Power Football Club ".
" We have refined our logo to ensure we are always known as Port Adelaide ". Port's clarification of its name came amid rumours on radio yesterday morning that the club had registered two new names - " Adelaide Power " and " Southern Power ".
The new logo ephasises the club's nickname is Power - thename its supporters use when chanting at AFL games.
Slight changes have also been m,ade to the fist and lightning bolt on the logo to give " more strength " to the club's image.
Port's board and management have been working hard since mid-1999 to change the logo, which has required permission from the AFL.
Mr. boulton said the original logo had incorporated the word " Port " above " Power " as a throwback to the club's traditional names as " Port ".

" Unfortunately, it led to many people calling the club ' Port Power ' and that was just not acceptable he said....

As reported today...

PA 1870

 

[chev1977]

Yes you are correct !!
(as per my new post)


but why dont they keep the colours but call them the Pirates ! ? If they went to all that trouble to change it to a bigger fist and lightning rod they should ahve changed it to the Pirates !! ?

 

[chev1977]

One more thing I just want to add !

Yes Port Power are the old club !!

Port Adelaide since 1870 yes !!

the Port Power (name) not club is since 1997!

fair enough ?

I come in peace !

 

[Port Adelaide 1870]

OH MY GOD.

 

[Port Adelaide 1870]

Chev,
despite some of the horrendous things you said to me and about me. I accept your apology.

Port Adelaide have had lots of names, seasiders, portonians, Port power, mudholians, seaside men, cockledivers, magpies, Power, magentas, theier nick name is irrelevant and so are the years that they were known as their nicknames..

The one constant is that Port has been a successful football club since 1870 regardless of their nickname and colours.

 

[Port Adelaide 1870]

Chev,

You dont know how close 'The Pirates' was nearly the nickname. The SpinDoctors advised against it for marketing and business reasons due to the connotations it drew to Ports aborted 1990 bid, too much ill feeling was still around whilst Port were going for their second bid. The Pirates would have been the ultimate smack in the face to the SANFL and other business leaders and investors that tried in vain to keep the 'pirating bastards' out of the AFL.

The Pirates was the front runner for their logo....Black white and Silver, were going to be their colours.. The Collingwood Football club and the AFL wanted a greater point of difference than that, so the second option was teal. Collingwood agreed.

Regards PA1870

 

[Daniel]

Further to the issue of Port’s name, the following is an amusing piece from Lance Campbell in Tuesday’s Advertiser. He's right, too.

“Clearly I have labored under a misapprehension since some time in 1995. I have never thought for a minute that SA’s second team in the AFL was called “Port Adelaide” or “Port Power”.
I have always assumed the correct title was “Porpower” because that is how most of its supporters pronounce the club’s name. In fact I was moving in that direction myself until Porpower president Greg Boulton told me and many others last week that we must cease and desist forthwith.
When you’re club president I suppose you have the right to tell off us ordinary folks, but plain “Power” simply will not do, Greg. You can’t barrack for that particular club unless you have two words to run together into one.
So it’s “Pordadelaide” for me, and if Greg Boulton agrees with me I, in turn, will concede that the club in the AFL has been around since 1870. That is because Pordadelaide is what it has been called since 1870.”

 

[Port Adelaide 1870]

Lance Campbell of the Advertiser,

Wordsmith par Excellance !!!!!!!!

PA1870

 

[Port Adelaide 1870]

Port Adelaid Football Club Est 1870...


Now Power, formerly Magpies, cockledivers, mudholians, seasiders, portonians,
seaside men...


PA1870

 

[JUBJUB]

Isn't Monica Lewinsky a 'Cocklediver' ?

------------------
"You will respect my Authoritah "

 

[Monica Lewinsky]

Nobody dives for cockles like me !!!!!!!

 

[Collingwood Man]

As much as I hate Port, they are my second club,I use to barrack for them when they played in SA, when they played us in their first game I was at the "G" and despite us killing them It was good to see the SA Magpies in our league.
Does anybody remember their banner ? It had a Magpie on the front of it, with Proud of the Past , Confident of the future on either side, when they lifted it up ,we all went
mental and they pulled a string and the Magpie fell away to show their Power picture. I followed Port when I was little because we knew about them because they were so famous because they won so many premierships, My older brother was a member of Collingwoods cheer squad and Port Adelaide. We even went to Adelaide to watch Port Play and stayed at our cousins. Now we just watch them when they comeover. They arent the magpies anymore, but it doesnt matter, they are the same club.but I love Collingwood most.Go Magpies.

 

[Hawkforce.]

Just a thought...

If Port are the same club as they were BEFORE joining the AFL doesn't this negate the argument about when the AFL started?

 

[port r poofs]

Originally posted by Port Adelaide 1870:
Port Adelaid Football Club Est 1870...


Now Power, formerly Magpies, cockledivers, mudholians, seasiders, portonians,
seaside men...


PA1870

but always SCUM

 

[Port Adelaide 1870]

Nut,

Read this

PA1870

 

[nut]

I read this too and still confused. Where is the PAFC which played in 1995

 

[nut]

Like the other thread. Could anyone answer my Qs with out thinking all i'm doing is Port bashing because I'm not.

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by nut
Like the other thread. Could anyone answer my Qs with out thinking all i'm doing is Port bashing because I'm not.

The Port Adelaide Football Club was formed in 1870....it played in the SA local league until 1996. In December 1994, the Port Adelaide Football Club was awarded the AFL licence. At the end of 1996, the Port Adelaide Football Club left the SANFL and joined the AFL.
The SANFL wanted a Port substitute to play in its place in the SANFL. The Port Adelaide Magpies Football CLub was then created to fill the void left by the Port Adelaide Football Club leaving. The Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club plays in the same guernsey and has the same logo as the PAFC which left to the AFL.

Now is that too hard to understand??

 

[nut]

So if there is a new side in the SANFL called the PAMFC How many premierships have they won???????? This is my piont. Who has the right of the History Of the original PAFC??????? You can not have the same history for two seperate clubs.


If the Port Adelaide FC in the AFL is the original Port than they Own the History right. I bet if you walk in to the PAMFC club rooms you would find a fair bit of history around the place dating back well before the POWER joined the AFL.

So They WAY I read it is, from what I have read.

1 Port Adalaide joined the AFL.

2 formed a new side in the SANFL called PAMFC.

3 Now they are turning their backs on the Club they formed in the SANFL because they are in debt.

4 The new Club in the SANFL has no history because it has all been taken with Port ADElaide into the AFL. In the AFL, the History of the Port Adelaide FC is worth absolutely nothing especially to the clubs and supporters of the AFL. You dont hear Richmond, Hawthorn,North or Footscray bragging about how many Premierships they one in the VFA before they crossed to the VFL do you. So really the History of Port Adelaide would have been best left with the new SANFL side. The PAMFC.

The Logical solution would have been to have one club that is represented in two Competitions.
But this is not how it is because they Knew eventually people wouldn't stop going to watch the magpies in the SANFL and they would cost them money. So they would rather see the all that history eventually dissapear through time in the exchange for more DOLLA's and thats that.

 

[Satay Mat]

I do not see the problem....

Take the steel works in Whyalla.....it has been there for 50 years (say). It is run by BHP.

If it has not happenned already, BHP intend to form a new company....new ACN, new shareholders, new board of directors....and entirely new company. BHP Steel.

How much steel did BHP Steel produce in 1972 ? You could say zero. But of course the plant in Whyalla and all the other assets of BHP Steel existed in 1972 and produced 100,000 tons of steel (say).....this was done under BHP steel. If you wanted to be pedantic you woul say zero....but try telling that to someone who worked there.

So two companies...different investors, boards, assets....completely seperate....but share a common history up until the seperation. BHP still exists it has not changed it goes on....the new company starts from scratch....but shares a common history with the original BHP.

So.....PAMFC and PAFC can share a common history even though they are seperate entities. Technically the PAMFC has won 2 flags and I for one would not care less if it was reflected as such....however, I am also prepared to share the history of PAFC in the SANFL up until 1996.

Satay Mat

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by nut
So if there is a new side in the SANFL called the PAMFC How many premierships have they won???????? This is my piont. Who has the right of the History Of the original PAFC??????? You can not have the same history for two seperate clubs.

Obviously the PAFC (which is in the AFL) has the rights to their own history. I do not know why both clubs claim the same history...youll have to write to the SANFL and Port Adelaide about that

If the Port Adelaide FC in the AFL is the original Port than they Own the History right. I bet if you walk in to the PAMFC club rooms you would find a fair bit of history around the place dating back well before the POWER joined the AFL.

Stop using bloody nicknames. You are getting yourself confused. Forget about Magpies and Power. Concentrate on the REAL names of the club...the PAFC and the PAMFC. The Power didnt join the AFL....the PAFC did.
I dont even know where the PAMFC clubrooms actually is....they are based at Ethelton (where the PAFC is based at the traditional Alberton) but they use Alberton for Home Games.

So They WAY I read it is, from what I have read.

1 Port Adalaide joined the AFL.

2 formed a new side in the SANFL called PAMFC.

correct

3 Now they are turning their backs on the Club they formed in the SANFL because they are in debt.

Not at all. The PAFC and PAMFC are not legally attached in anyway...so no club is turning its back on another.

The Logical solution would have been to have one club that is represented in two Competitions.

This was tried and turned down by the SANFL.

 

[nut]

So is it common to Talk about the PAMFC as only winning 2 Premierships in the SANFL. What does it say in there Website?

Satay mat says they have won 2 not 30 something. Is they way everyone else sees it?

 

[Satay Mat]

actually you are then not capable of reading.....


They have a shared history....PAFC 34 flags PAMFC 36......if you want to call it 2 then I do not care but 36 is the number for me.

Satay Mat

 

[nut]

A combined total os 70. it's getting worse.

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by nut
So is it common to Talk about the PAMFC as only winning 2 Premierships in the SANFL. What does it say in there Website?

Satay mat says they have won 2 not 30 something. Is they way everyone else sees it?

i dunno, youd have to ask everyone else