2nds Port Adelaide vs Crows - Round 12 @ Alberton

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Jonts

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Johnson can't read the game well but can hide it because he can often can catch up those few seconds wasted catching the play with his pure pace, it's the better prob problem to have over the reverse
 

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Long term hell no don't westhoff him please
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No issues , his tank is his biggest hurdle currently anything we can do to fast track it is good

Westhoff was at his best when in the forward line and would occasionally win a game for us off his own boot. In the backline and on the wing he keeps up the status quo but never gives us a real advantage over the other team.
 

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Johnson can't read the game well but can hide it because he can often can catch up those few seconds wasted catching the play with his pure pace, it's the better prob problem to have over the reverse
I seem to recall that when we drafted him the ability to read a game was supposed to be one of his strong points.

That, speed and goal sense. But then again my memory can play up.
 

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Yeah no s**t, why is Young in the midfield when he plays forward in the firsts? Isn't the purpose of one club so we can use the ressies to prepare for the Power? Amateur hour.
Because Port want another SANFL premiership. While Crows use SANFL as a development team. Hence we have no supporters as most of us already support an SANFL club wanting to win a SANFL flag. I agree though that the reserves sides are meant as a development side. Thats why they shouldnt be in the SANFL and should go to VFL or for the AFL to bloody put their hands in their pockets and create a national reserves comp.
 

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Because Port want another SANFL premiership. While Crows use SANFL as a development team.
Wrong.

The reason Young plays in the midfield is because if he doesn't the team becomes less competitive and we sacrifice the development of the entire team because we wanted to put one player in his 'AFL' spot.

Young playing midfield, gets his confidence and form up, it allows our defence to not just be bombarded with continual lost clearances, it allows our young and excessively tall forward line the chance to get their hands on the ball from quick entries. It also gives our extremely young midfield in Atley, Drew & Hewett the support they need.

If we were playing purely to win a flag, we'd be 'faking' an injury to Ladhams weekly when we are forced to drop Summerton. We'd probably also chuck in another couple injuries to get Sharrad, Rudloff, T Gray & Reynolds into the seniors.

We also wouldn't have had AhChee playing so much of the season in the fwd half at SANFL level when he clearly impacts games much more as a mid. We also wouldn't have had Marshall having a crack on the wing last week. A kid like Snelling whose now on the outer also probably would've been dropped allowing us to bring in Sharrad.

Port use the Magpies solely as a developing engine for our players. We are just smart enough to also realise that remaining competitive gives our guys the best chance to develop asap.

This is the best Port's list has ever looked for the short and long term. Good quality high draft pick inside mids in Atley & Drew (Atley being a combo of Boak/M Crouch), good half backs in Bonner & Irra, Good key back kids in Lienert & Austin, good key fwd prospects in Marshall, Howard and a couple good ruck prospects in Frampton, Ladhams. Our only weaknesses are the outside mids where Amon is questionable and the small forwards where Johnson is still questionable.

The fact our depth is so incredibly good at the moment is the reason we are performing, not because we are forgoing development.
 

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what actually happens with Lobbe next year? He was okay in this match but Frampton has stormed passed him and Ladhams is closing in too. Yet he is still contracted for next year.
 

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Wrong.

The reason Young plays in the midfield is because if he doesn't the team becomes less competitive and we sacrifice the development of the entire team because we wanted to put one player in his 'AFL' spot.

Young playing midfield, gets his confidence and form up, it allows our defence to not just be bombarded with continual lost clearances, it allows our young and excessively tall forward line the chance to get their hands on the ball from quick entries. It also gives our extremely young midfield in Atley, Drew & Hewett the support they need.

If we were playing purely to win a flag, we'd be 'faking' an injury to Ladhams weekly when we are forced to drop Summerton. We'd probably also chuck in another couple injuries to get Sharrad, Rudloff, T Gray & Reynolds into the seniors.

We also wouldn't have had AhChee playing so much of the season in the fwd half at SANFL level when he clearly impacts games much more as a mid. We also wouldn't have had Marshall having a crack on the wing last week. A kid like Snelling whose now on the outer also probably would've been dropped allowing us to bring in Sharrad.

Port use the Magpies solely as a developing engine for our players. We are just smart enough to also realise that remaining competitive gives our guys the best chance to develop asap.

This is the best Port's list has ever looked for the short and long term. Good quality high draft pick inside mids in Atley & Drew (Atley being a combo of Boak/M Crouch), good half backs in Bonner & Irra, Good key back kids in Lienert & Austin, good key fwd prospects in Marshall, Howard and a couple good ruck prospects in Frampton, Ladhams. Our only weaknesses are the outside mids where Amon is questionable and the small forwards where Johnson is still questionable.

The fact our depth is so incredibly good at the moment is the reason we are performing, not because we are forgoing development.
Good god, we are 2nd with the 2nd best percentage playing kids, do you really want us to be kicked out for being far and away in 1st? Or do you want us to scrape into finals in 2nd and win the flag instead?

what actually happens with Lobbe next year? He was okay in this match but Frampton has stormed passed him and Ladhams is closing in too. Yet he is still contracted for next year.
He'll ask for a trade and will be moving back to victoria for nothing to help Western Bulldogs probably.
 

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Good god, we are 2nd with the 2nd best percentage playing kids, do you really want us to be kicked out for being far and away in 1st? Or do you want us to scrape into finals in 2nd and win the flag instead?
So you agree with me, we are prioritizing development, which is all that I said.
 
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what actually happens with Lobbe next year? He was okay in this match but Frampton has stormed passed him and Ladhams is closing in too. Yet he is still contracted for next year.

We should spend the money to buy him out, if he really does not contribute much to the SANFL side there's not much point to having him here. Frampton is now starting to dominate games since being given the #1 ruck mantle. Ladhams is going to need some time in the ruck too.

Hell could even offer him a player development coaching contract or something since reports are that he prepares as well as any player for games. I really doubt any AFL club will go after him.
 

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Thats why they shouldnt be in the SANFL and should go to VFL or for the AFL to bloody put their hands in their pockets and create a national reserves comp.
Why does the grassroots brigade solution to a compromised sanful always involve a bigger compromise to the vfl. Classic NIMBYism - it's ok to * around with grassrootsfooty as long as it's not OUR grassrootsfooty.

I don't think the crows approach to their reserves is helping their development much. Every top-up player for the crows looks seriously out of their depth at sanfl level. The afl listed players have to spend half the game compensating for the inadequacies of bush league players who can't hit a target 30 metres away under no pressure. I suspect the crows want out of the sanfl so they can cherry pick the best of the sanfl players to play in a competition unencumbered with so many petty rules about who can and can't play for them.
 

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Why does the grassroots brigade solution to a compromised sanful always involve a bigger compromise to the vfl. Classic NIMBYism - it's ok to **** around with grassrootsfooty as long as it's not OUR grassrootsfooty.

I don't think the crows approach to their reserves is helping their development much. Every top-up player for the crows looks seriously out of their depth at sanfl level. The afl listed players have to spend half the game compensating for the inadequacies of bush league players who can't hit a target 30 metres away under no pressure. I suspect the crows want out of the sanfl so they can cherry pick the best of the sanfl players to play in a competition unencumbered with so many petty rules about who can and can't play for them.
I love how the 'grassroots' brigade as you term them are so concerned about a compromised competition. As if they are the number 1 priority for footy in this state.

The reality is the SANFL NOW exists to feed the AFL. That is it's purpose. It is hence already compromised by the AFL draft, and their inability to police the salary cap, also every state league is either going to be compromised by having AFL players playing in that comp for a single side or through dispersion as they used to, or alternatively the state leagues will be compromised by all of the talented players being ripped out to boost an AFL reserves league.

Either way, these SANFL grassroots people need to get with the times and understand the role of their comp. Which is 100% purely and completely to provide a development pathway to the AFL, and help support the AFL in their home state.

Hence why the SANFL's absolute pillaging of AFL revenue to boost up their own comp is so ridiculous.
 

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