Port Adelaide's plan to use jumpers similar to Collingwood

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Hearing the history and I actually remember this now regarding the club trying to move away from Port Magpies and form its own identity as they couldn't get members is even more interesting.

A week ago on Pies board I said didn't really care but I do now after listening to that.

Why should Collingwood be disrespected? We have stayed true to the jumper and they moved away from it why should we suffer?
Growing up in SA you either supported or hated Port. They knew going into the AFL they needed to distance themselves from the Port Magpies or they would struggle to get non Port fans onboard. Didn't they even have EST 1997 or 1996 on the back of the jumpers in the early years
 
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Growing up in SA you either supported or hated Port. They knew going into the AFL they needed to distance themselves from the Port Magpies or they would struggle to get non Port fans onboard. Didn't they even have EST 1997 or 1996 on the back of the jumpers in the early years
This is viewed as an enormous mistake in hindsight. The administration in the 90s made a significant error that took us 15 years to correct.

Just existing doesn't pick up new fans, at least not enough to matter. You get new fans by winning or offering something new and different.

What was new and different for Port as an AFL club in SA is that we had the 127 years of history, and we should have leaned into it instead of distancing ourselves. Sports branding 101 is that it's all about engaging your existing fans and turning casuals into hardcore, financial members.

The problem with our branding strategy in the 90s is that genericism doesn't recruit the new fans everyone says it will, and our attempt at it left the core supporterbase disaffected and feeling like it wasn't really recognisable as their club.

We've fixed that problem, and the next logical step in that is self determination in regards to wearing our most famous guernsey.
 

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This is viewed as an enormous mistake in hindsight. The administration in the 90s made a significant error that took us 15 years to correct.

Just existing doesn't pick up new fans, at least not enough to matter. You get new fans by winning or offering something new and different.

What was new and different for Port as an AFL club in SA is that we had the 127 years of history, and we should have leaned into it instead of distancing ourselves. Sports branding 101 is that it's all about engaging your existing fans and turning casuals into hardcore, financial members.

The problem with our branding strategy in the 90s is that genericism doesn't recruit the new fans everyone says it will, and our attempt at it left the core supporterbase disaffected and feeling like it wasn't really recognisable as their club.

We've fixed that problem, and the next logical step in that is self determination in regards to wearing our most famous guernsey.
I think you can compromise on that jumper now by including teal in it. Not much, just enough to appease the disgruntled like a 5mm outline on your black stripes. Same jumper but just helping Eddie sleep at night.
 

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I think you can compromise on that jumper now by including teal in it. Not much, just enough to appease the disgruntled like a 5mm outline on your black stripes. Same jumper but just helping Eddie sleep at night.
Would Eddie sleep at night if they just used teal thread for the stitching?
 

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Growing up in SA you either supported or hated Port. They knew going into the AFL they needed to distance themselves from the Port Magpies or they would struggle to get non Port fans onboard. Didn't they even have EST 1997 or 1996 on the back of the jumpers in the early years
You just made that bullshit up.

They never had anything on the back of their jumper until they put up 1870 around 2009. Go on AFL Photos and find me a jumper with EST 1996 or 1997 on it.
 

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This is viewed as an enormous mistake in hindsight. The administration in the 90s made a significant error that took us 15 years to correct.

Just existing doesn't pick up new fans, at least not enough to matter. You get new fans by winning or offering something new and different.

What was new and different for Port as an AFL club in SA is that we had the 127 years of history, and we should have leaned into it instead of distancing ourselves. Sports branding 101 is that it's all about engaging your existing fans and turning casuals into hardcore, financial members.

The problem with our branding strategy in the 90s is that genericism doesn't recruit the new fans everyone says it will, and our attempt at it left the core supporterbase disaffected and feeling like it wasn't really recognisable as their club.

We've fixed that problem, and the next logical step in that is self determination in regards to wearing our most famous guernsey.
The jumper you won the 2004 flag in?
 

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I just really dont see what the fuss is all about..

this...
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to me honestly looks a thousand times more classy than this...

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The guernsey up the top there looks like the guernsey design of a professional top league organisation..

the one below it looks like it was designed by the work experience kid at a design company on the cheap as a favour to a small local league footy club..
 

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I just really dont see what the fuss is all about..

this...
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to me honestly looks a thousand times more classy than this...

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The guernsey up the top there looks like the guernsey design of a professional top league organisation..

the one below it looks like it was designed by the work experience kid at a design company on the cheap as a favour to a small local league footy club..
I actually like the jumper they wear now, I would minimise the teal V in half and double the size of the white V.
 

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I think you can compromise on that jumper now by including teal in it. Not much, just enough to appease the disgruntled like a 5mm outline on your black stripes. Same jumper but just helping Eddie sleep at night.
Not sure the AFL should be bothering too much about Eddies sleeping habits. If he wants to have an extended sook, ffs let him.
 

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I actually like the jumper they wear now, I would minimise the teal V in half and double the size of the white V.
I reacon it looks pretty bloody good as is..

the prison bars one looks like they’ve done their best to cram all the sponsor and club logo’s into the top 15cm’s of it.. drawn a line under them and then thought..

“sh*t, what are we gonna do with the rest of this space?”...

“Ummm.. maybe we just fill it up with stripes?”... “yeah, ok, that’ll do.. on to the next job anyway, this one was only a love job for that local league club wasnt it?, boss wouldnt want us spending too much time on it”

“yep”..
 

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I just really dont see what the fuss is all about..

this...
View attachment 1118626
to me honestly looks a thousand times more classy than this...

View attachment 1118633
The guernsey up the top there looks like the guernsey design of a professional top league organisation..

the one below it looks like it was designed by the work experience kid at a design company on the cheap as a favour to a small local league footy club..
problem solved, bigfooty user "bearded clam" reckons the current jumper looks pretty schmick
 

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I think you can compromise on that jumper now by including teal in it. Not much, just enough to appease the disgruntled like a 5mm outline on your black stripes. Same jumper but just helping Eddie sleep at night.
Twofold answer to that from the Port perspective:

1) Why do we need to ask another club about it? As has been thoroughly shown in this thread and in every other discussion on this topic, teams having the same colours works fine in major pro sports leagues all over the world.

2) We've got our backs up about it because of the way our history has been treated over the last 25 years. It took a long time for the AFL to acknowledge our history at all and we've already been denied the opportunity to properly celebrate major anniversaries of some of the biggest moments in our history because another club decides they don't want us to. We've compromised enough.

If Collingwood had approved silver bars in 1996 we'd probably have avoided a lot of the heartache and heated debate.
 

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I love in that video when Eddie Maguire said to Kane cornes that “your club changes their colours like he changes his jocks” so cornes replied with “most clubs do”....ermmmmm name a club other than Fremantle in the last 20 years to change their colours??? Worst 300 gamer ever, absolute moron
 

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problem solved, bigfooty user "bearded clam" reckons the current jumper looks pretty schmick
The problem is... in all honesty.. who really gives a sh*te?..

I mean, its been a good discussion point for a fair few of us on bigfooty.. and lets face it, we are all die hard footy fan wierdo’s us bigfooty crew... and there might be a few thousand die hard port power supporters that are having a bit of a tantrum over it but most of them are only doing so because Koshie sees an advantage in gee-ing them up over it..

but in the real world no one cares much.. I have some very good mates back home, guys I’d class as brothers, who are Port Power supporters.. they’re also good mates with many past and present players like Chad Cornes, Robbie Gray and a few others. They tell me Robbie is one of the most genuine and nicest blokes you’ll ever meet.. a unbelievably great bloke.

yet most of them dont even follow Port in the SANFL.. they are Bays supporters!.. I can bet they couldnt give a sh*te about the heritage of the Prison Bars.. id hazard a guess 80% of port power supporters wouldnt even watch the port adelaide sanfl games.

in fact I’d say most supporters couldnt care less that the port AFL team cant wear the PB’s.. most AFL supporters would sit down on the weekend for their 3 hour footy fix and watch their team play.. then go back to their normal everyday lives.. and dont bother concerning themselves with all the side affairs and nonsense surrounding their clubs..

I think we worked out on here the other day there is about 300,000 Port supporters out there according to the most recent Roy Morgan research..

so.. how many of them have even bothered to sign the Change.org petition since its been up and running and while this issue has been highlighted in the media?.. a little under 40,000..

So that means more than 250,000 of their supporters care so much about this issue that they couldnt even be bothered taking a couple of minutes out of their day to sign a digital petition... its been up and running for 11 months now..

Its a non issue.
 

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