Port Fans Needed: Top 15 Power players of AFL era

(Log in to remove this ad.)

Portmanteau

Behaviourz2Outcomz
Joined
Jul 15, 2002
Posts
18,042
Likes
15,634
Location
Adelaide
AFL Club
Port Adelaide
Other Teams
Fox Sports FC
#53
Tredrea
Wanganeen
R Gray
Lade
C Cornes
Boak
K Cornes
P Burgoyne
Primus
Wingard
Wakelin
Schulz
Westhoff
Francou
Wilson

HM: Mel Michael in a losing team

That was really tricky.

Extraordinarily tight between Wanganeen and R Gray - both multiple AAs, had short stints as effectively the best player in the game (2003; 2014). Gav’s finals heroics in 2004 just nudge it IMO.

Equally, hard to separate Monty, Francou and Wilson. Weighing up peak (Francou) vs longevity of performance at PAFC (Wilson), Monty is strong in both categories but not enough to outweigh the above.

Lade and Schulz underrated in this thread for mine. Both absolutely guns of the competition for a good stretch of years. Feel there is a bit less kudos given that their peak performances didn’t occur in 2004 (Schulz obv not involved at all).

Edit: Westhoff GTFI
 
Last edited:

tribey

5 Wins In-A-Row Certificate Recipients '13/'14/'18
Joined
Mar 9, 2003
Posts
56,093
Likes
119,576
Location
Queen St & Peter Rd
AFL Club
Port Adelaide
Other Teams
NUFC, YES.
#54
1. Tredrea
2. R. Gray
3. Wanganeen
4. Lade
5. C. Cornes
6. Boak
7. K. Cornes
8. Primus
9. Wingard
10. Francou
11. P. Burgoyne
12. Westhoff
13. Wilson
14. S. Burgoyne
15. Montgomery

(16+. Dew, Schulz, Jonas, Cassisi, Ryder, Mead, Brogan, Carr, et al.)

I think the top-10 pick themselves. For considerable periods they were elite footballers recognised as such league-wide, as well as being prime movers and key players for the club.

From 11-onwards you’ve got the guys on the rung below, or for whatever reason didn’t have the longevity, durability or consistency to push into that consensus elite tier.
 
Joined
Sep 3, 2004
Posts
401
Likes
467
Location
South Oz
AFL Club
Port Adelaide
Other Teams
West Ham, Jazz, Vikings
#55
1. T Olsen
2. R. Gray
3. Wanganeen
4. Lade
5. C. Cornes
6. Boak
7. K. Cornes
8. Primus
9. Wingard
10. Francou
11. P. Burgoyne
12. Westhoff
13. Wilson
14. S. Burgoyne
15. Montgomery

(16+. Dew, Schulz, Jonas, Ryder, Mead, Brogan, Carr, et al.)

I think the top-10 pick themselves. For considerable periods they were elite footballers recognised as such league-wide, as well as being prime movers and key players for the club.

From 11-onwards you’ve got the guys on the rung below, or for whatever reason didn’t have the longevity, durability or consistency to push into that consensus elite tier.
FTFY
 

Portmanteau

Behaviourz2Outcomz
Joined
Jul 15, 2002
Posts
18,042
Likes
15,634
Location
Adelaide
AFL Club
Port Adelaide
Other Teams
Fox Sports FC
#61
Loved Wilbur but gets a bit over rated i reckon....good proper Port boy and all.
Look you’re probably right, but he played a lot more footy than the guys in similar rungs to him. Looking at the likes of Roger James, Francou, Monty, Carr - Wilbur played 192 games, and was one of those consistent in-and-around AA level without nailing a full season. I reckon playing that amount of footy at a B+/A- level rates well against guys who had a couple of A grade seasons within shorter stints.

I’ve probably underrated Westhoff tbh based on my own criteria above :neutral:
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

tribey

5 Wins In-A-Row Certificate Recipients '13/'14/'18
Joined
Mar 9, 2003
Posts
56,093
Likes
119,576
Location
Queen St & Peter Rd
AFL Club
Port Adelaide
Other Teams
NUFC, YES.
#62
Loved Wilbur but gets a bit over rated i reckon....good proper Port boy and all.
Was stiff not to make AA in 2004 (Adam McPhee ffs), and obviously the sky was the limit for him if he didn’t blow his knees out. But he did, which counts against him against others.
 

Papa G

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Apr 13, 2006
Posts
20,966
Likes
34,373
Location
The Bitter End
AFL Club
Port Adelaide
#63
Look you’re probably right, but he played a lot more footy than the guys in similar rungs to him. Looking at the likes of Roger James, Francou, Monty, Carr - Wilbur played 192 games, and was one of those consistent in-and-around AA level without nailing a full season. I reckon playing that amount of footy at a B+/A- level rates well against guys who had a couple of A grade seasons within shorter stints.

I’ve probably underrated Westhoff tbh based on my own criteria above :neutral:
Mr Reliable but always seemed a bit injured. Never had a brilliant season.

Whilst never close to Wilbur, always thought Port supporters gave the benefit of the doubt to Jarrod Poulton due to his heritage. I thought he was an extremely ordinary footballer.
 

jakey

All Australian
Joined
Oct 9, 2004
Posts
994
Likes
1,559
AFL Club
Port Adelaide
Other Teams
Port Adelaide
#64
Mr Reliable but always seemed a bit injured. Never had a brilliant season.

Whilst never close to Wilbur, always thought Port supporters gave the benefit of the doubt to Jarrod Poulton due to his heritage. I thought he was an extremely ordinary footballer.
I've never come across a port fan who thought poults was anything other than a loveable, raffish spud.
 
Joined
Jun 12, 2012
Posts
15,308
Likes
45,299
AFL Club
Port Adelaide
#67
No one has even mentioned Nick Stevens. It’s not the 15 most popular.

1 Wanganeen
2 R.Gray
3. Primus
4. Francou
5. S.Burgoyne
6. Lade
7. R.James
8. P.Burgoyne
9. Boak
10. Stevens
11. J.Carr
12. K.Cornes
13. C.Cornes
14. Wines
15. Wingard
Logically, not a bad point. He was a very good footballer with us and even edges out guys like Monty and Carr wrt games played despite abandoning ship.

Emotionally, who gives a flying f@&k he’s human garbage and deserves to be forgotten.
 

tribey

5 Wins In-A-Row Certificate Recipients '13/'14/'18
Joined
Mar 9, 2003
Posts
56,093
Likes
119,576
Location
Queen St & Peter Rd
AFL Club
Port Adelaide
Other Teams
NUFC, YES.
#68
No one has even mentioned Nick Stevens. It’s not the 15 most popular.

1 Wanganeen
2 R.Gray
3. Primus
4. Francou
5. S.Burgoyne
6. Lade
7. R.James
8. P.Burgoyne
9. Boak
10. Stevens
11. J.Carr
12. K.Cornes
13. C.Cornes
14. Wines
15. Wingard
Is this in any order, because in no universe was Stevens superior to the Cornes brothers or Wingard.
 

El_Scorcho

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Aug 21, 2007
Posts
24,302
Likes
50,110
AFL Club
Port Adelaide
Other Teams
Aston Villa, San Antonio Spurs
#71
1 Tredrea
2 Wanganeen
3 Gray
4 Lade
5 C.Cornes
6 Boak
7 K.Cornes
8 Primus
9 Francou
10 Wingard
11 Montgomery
12 P.Burgoyne
13 Wilson
14 Schulz
15 S.Burgoyne

Unlucky: Westhoff, Brogan, Wakelin.

Kane Cornes gets underrated because he was poorly used late in the Choco era, and then almost frozen out by Primus because we had to play the kids at all costs. During his prime he was the best tagger in the game when that absolutely mattered, and an elite linkman type midfielder who would punish his opponent the other way. Could win his own ball and knew where the goals were too. Record speaks for itself.

Nick Stevens is nowhere near the top 20 even forgetting that he's a domestic violence offender. Good mid but behind a lot of people in terms of Port players over the AFL era.
 

theDuckFarmer

Premium Platinum
Joined
Jul 7, 2007
Posts
6,485
Likes
12,788
Location
Ziggurat City
AFL Club
Port Adelaide
Other Teams
LUFC, Patriots, Mitchelton-Scott
#75
thanks for the feedbacks guys. Heres what Im working with (in order):

1. Tredrea
2. Wanganeen
3. R. Gray
4. K Cornes
5. C Cornes
6. Primus
7. Lade
8. Francou
9. P Burgoyne
10. Wakelin
11. Boak
12. S Burgoyne
13 M Wilson
14 Dew
15 Schulz

Most Stiff are Westhoff, Cassisi, and Carr. Is this too outrageous??
This is obviously not including John Butcher at 1 because that goes without saying.
Pretty good list. You could argue the toss on the order of a few but I think you've got the right group in generally the right spots.
 
Top Bottom