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Power Girl

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I think it's time u jumped on the crows bandwagon...
Get stuffed!

I love Port Adelaide and I am not about to apologise for expecting better. No one here wants to suffer through another Williams run the club into the ground era.

So sorry if my desire for this club to be professional instead of but he's a great guy upsets you but get over it.
 

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Get stuffed!

I love Port Adelaide and I am not about to apologise for expecting better. No one here wants to suffer through another Williams run the club into the ground era.

So sorry if my desire for this club to be professional instead of but he's a great guy upsets you but get over it.
I was happy with the Williams flag :)
 

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You know exactly where you backflipped and now you're embarrassing yourself by trying to play the victim for some reason. It's really undignified.
You threaten with reporting to Mods, then you get personal, then you can't back up an accusation and finally, you accuse me of playing the victim.
This is how you react when you can't force your point of view onto others and in the same breath you want to tell me I'm undiginfied?
 
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You threaten with reporting to Mods, then you get personal, then you can't back up an accusation and finally, you accuse me of playing the victim.
This is how you react when you can't force your point of view onto others and in the same breath you want to tell me I'm undiginfied?
Mate if the obvious subtext of your post wasn't pessimism means you want the club to fail, then your post had literally no point. Own it or don't post it.
 

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Actually that is what tipped me over in regards from Ken going from the messiah to F#** you Ken! It was his gold passes for some and why the f*** wouldn't you give Butch a decent chance in the team to live or die. That and his bullshit of playing guys that were clearly injured.

He has this year to actually do his job professionally or mind that the door doesn't hit him on way out.

I'm sick of the matesy shit just play decent football with a decent game plan coach, or get out and let someone else do it.
Arsh
 

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You threaten with reporting to Mods, then you get personal, then you can't back up an accusation and finally, you accuse me of playing the victim.
This is how you react when you can't force your point of view onto others and in the same breath you want to tell me I'm undiginfied?
:rolleyes:

Your post clearly implied that the only the people on the optimist side of the dichotomy wanted the club to succeed and the pessimists just want to be negative.

You got called out on that and then completely backflipped, arguing that because you didn't explicitly say something you didn't mean it, despite your post having no other discernable meaning.

Now you're trying to muddy the waters by sooking about a "personal attack" because you have no other recourse (other than to completely disappear from the thread for a little while which I probably would have done in your situation).
 

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Get stuffed!

I love Port Adelaide and I am not about to apologise for expecting better. No one here wants to suffer through another Williams run the club into the ground era.

So sorry if my desire for this club to be professional instead of but he's a great guy upsets you but get over it.
I reckon DazalenkoUBewty was taking the piss here. I could be wrong.
 

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:rolleyes:

Your post clearly implied that the only the people on the optimist side of the dichotomy wanted the club to succeed and the pessimists just want to be negative.

You got called out on that and then completely backflipped, arguing that because you didn't explicitly say something you didn't mean it, despite your post having no other discernable meaning.

Now you're trying to muddy the waters by sooking about a "personal attack" because you have no other recourse (other than to completely disappear from the thread for a little while which I probably would have done in your situation).
Just wow! Clearly this is a thing in your mind.
 

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Yet "Spineless" and "Undignified" sit well with you if someone else disagrees?
I'm describing your behaviour over the last couple of pages, not you as a person. You posted something deliberately inflammatory, completely disowned it at the first sign of resistance and now you're having a sook about being expected to have some conviction about what you post here.
 

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I'm describing your behaviour over the last couple of pages, not you as a person. You posted something deliberately inflammatory, completely disowned it at the first sign of resistance and now you're having a sook about being expected to have some conviction about what you post here.
Backflip anyone?
I don't give a rats what you believe in your mind, I had no intention of suggesting that pessimists want to see us fail.
Also fabricated in your mind is that I left this thread for a while.
Pretty sure I'm not the one having a sook.
 

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Look i'd agree with you, but Hinkley had the opportunity to play the structure he apparently craved, just not with his best players.

I agree that Lobbe completely shitting the bed and forgetting how to play hurt, and having to move Ryder to ruck ruined that plan a bit. But instead of picking the obvious next tall forward in line to maintain the structure, Ken completely abandoned the structure and we had problems all season in moving the ball.

If Ken cared about playing adequate talls he would have played those talls and taught his players how to play to that system while he waited to find the perfect lineup of bigs. I just can't believe that a coach who "really wants to play a 3 KPF structure" would have spent the vast majority of his time coaching playing a 1 KPF structure. It doesn't make sense.

I agree that the personnel issues between 2015 and 2016 were different, but I saw the same major issue really. If we win the stoppages we're fine, although we don't enter the forwardline well, but we manage. If we have to move the ball from defence to attack we play into the hands of opposition sides by not kicking to the advantage of our players, turn the ball over and concede. When moving the ball we see very little movement ahead of the ball, we see the ball user either shrug his shoulders and bomb, or try a 1-2 handball to generate some run, or we see a turnover. Every other team in the league seems to have a basic system to move the ball forward through a zone. We don't seem to have any real system to do it. We rely on the big boot of Broadbent or the individual brilliance of Pittard or Ebert.

Until we have an adequate system for that, we might make the 8 on class, but we'll never really be successful. Our forwards will continue to underperform. We'll continue to get ground out of games by teams that we should be absolutely wiping off the park.

As i've said, I don't actually think our skills are that bad. Our apparent skill issues stem from our inability to deal with moving the ball through a zone.
"His methodology as a coach is that you get selected based on your own form, not on the loss of form of others." That explains the reason why he didn't play the structure he craved. He's not going to pick someone just because they fill a hole, but because they are putting in consistent performances.

We saw against Hawthorn how we want to move against a zone - if it wasn't blowing a gale we would have slaughtered them with our movement. Don't mistake what happened against Richmond for how we want to play - Ken said it himself - 'too much straight line football'. Sometimes you have to retreat to move forward. That comes from skill level - not in terms of execution, but in belief in both yourself and your teammates' ability to execute.
 

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Actually that is what tipped me over in regards from Ken going from the messiah to F#** you Ken! It was his gold passes for some and why the f*** wouldn't you give Butch a decent chance in the team to live or die.
Yeah. How the F#!$ has Jonas been getting games the last two years. Blatant gold pass. :D
 
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