Mega Thread Port Forum 'General AFL Talk' Thread Part 8

[TeeKray]

The Dees will beat Adelaide.

 

[SureBuddy]

The Dees will beat Adelaide.

Not without Oliver.

 

[LP7_]

I’m all for 6-6-6, only selfishly because I want to see us play with a forward structure.

 

[El Zorro]

So let me get this right: the 2018 AFL competition will be played with multiple sets of rules across different games? Did I understand that correctly? I surely hope I didn't.

 

[SureBuddy]

So let me get this right: the 2018 AFL competition will be played with multiple sets of rules across different games? Did I understand that correctly? I surely hope I didn't.

How fair will it be if crows need to win big against Carlton in round 23 to get into the 8 by percentage. Carlton won’t be able to play a defensive zone and will lose by 100+. How is that not affecting the season?

 

[El Zorro]

How fair will it be if crows need to win big against Carlton in round 23 to get into the 8 by percentage. Carlton won’t be able to play a defensive zone and will lose by 100+. How is that not affecting the season?

I assume in that case they won't be trialling the new rules. But still...

 

[Andre]

This has confirmed what so many say. Gil is so far out of his depth it isn't funny. Under his mighty reign we have been subjected to:

The bloke is a joke

Gil is desperate to leave a legacy.

Ross the boss got the national competition truly off the ground with West Coast and Brisbane coming in. Along with overseeing Adelaide (boo) and Fremantle joining.

Jackson saw suburban grounds (outside Carlton and Geelong) go, with Etihad coming on board, and the AFL moving towards professionalism (plus a certain SA based suburban club join the AFL).

Demetriou turned the AFL into a media behemoth worth hundreds of millions, along with GC and GWS (very long term plays) and helping us move to AO (in part to have no AFL clubs controlled by any other entities, but hey, we'll take it).

Gil has no big item to hang his hat on. The new Perth stadium was long on the books before he took over. He could have a legacy to point to, if he properly gave Port support in China, instead of being an almost reluctant partner, as we aren't Victorian. Gil knows if he has the Vic clubs behind him he's got the numbers always. So they get their due, whether it's in the best interest of the AFL overall. And he's in thick with the SANFL old boys club (and Adelaide by association). Or he could even have a smaller legacy if he made real steps to getting a Tassie side in the AFL, instead of a few token measures to placate them.

The thing is though, he doesn't need to have a big legacy to be considered a good CEO (or didn't, his tenure is already tarnished now as a shit truck of half-arsed ideas and spineless decision avoidance). After the big changes of the previous administrations, if he'd just been a CEO to bed down GC and GWS and slowly introduce an AFLW (rather than poorly done as rushed), he'd had have been a success, just not exciting. Not every leader needs to be out conquering new territory, sometimes you need one's to consolidate gains, before looking to the next battle.

If Gil had been AFL CEO in Oakley's day we'd be lucky to have a team from WA. In Jackson's day the Vic clubs would have kicked up a fuss about their home grounds going and we'd still be playing at those mud pits. And if he'd been in instead of Demetriou, there's no way in hell we'd be playing anywhere other then Footy Park. And would likely still have the one final at the MCG every week rule.

We don't need the next AFL CEO to be a visionary or wanting to capture a bunch of new markets, but we need one that's competent, can make a decision on his own and isn't beholden to one group of clubs within the AFL to the detriment of the whole.

 

[Steve Dore]

That is incorrect. The criteria is 1] Pay up at least $50, 2] Supply contact details 3] Receive a member pack

So digital members are included

I was sure I'd read somewhere that the official AFL membership count required game access but can't find it online so looks as if I am wrong on that.

Free digital memberships are not included as they don't pay anything.

 

[CharlieKelly]

Has this been shared here yet? This is one of the best articles I've read in a long time

https://www.theroar.com.au/2018/07/...-of-the-football-media-thats-the-problem/amp/

 

[Stryke]

Anyone involved in even suggesting trialling these rules in season should offer their resignation immediately .

Disgraceful.

 

[malcheski]

You left out this…
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How could I forget the best day in Crows history since 07?

 

[Steve Dore]

Anyone involved in even suggesting trialling these rules in season should offer their resignation immediately .

Disgraceful.

Having a few games played in season to different rules says a lot about the integrity of the competition.

 

[dav3]

Having a few games played in season to different rules says a lot about the integrity of the competition.

Would it really be any different to the rest of the season?

 

[CharlieKelly]

This has confirmed what so many say. Gil is so far out of his depth it isn't funny. Under his mighty reign we have been subjected to:

Rules:

- Third man up rule
- Nominating ruckmen
- The new MRP, no the new new MRP, no now the MRO
- Protected zone
- Deliberate out of bounds rule changing

Competition:

- AFLW (was definitely required, however was half baked to get out in a hurry)
- MCG Grand Final for 40 years
- Recruiting zones that mostly benefit VIC clubs
- Canvassing other clubs on critical decisions (2016 top up player stuff up)
- Coffee dates to discuss umpiring with Clarko

Fashion:

The bloke is a joke

‘Looks like those clowns in the AFL did it again. What a bunch of clowns.’

 

[LFC2010]

This has confirmed what so many say. Gil is so far out of his depth it isn't funny. Under his mighty reign we have been subjected to:

Rules:

- Third man up rule
- Nominating ruckmen
- The new MRP, no the new new MRP, no now the MRO
- Protected zone
- Deliberate out of bounds rule changing

Competition:

- AFLW (was definitely required, however was half baked to get out in a hurry)
- MCG Grand Final for 40 years
- Recruiting zones that mostly benefit VIC clubs
- Canvassing other clubs on critical decisions (2016 top up player stuff up)
- Coffee dates to discuss umpiring with Clarko

Fashion:

The bloke is a joke

#Gillonout

 

[Steve Dore]

Would it really be any different to the rest of the season?

Different interpretations from week to week versus completely different rules.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

The AFL is considering changes to the draft age and cutting the number of players and coaches at clubs as part of an overhaul of football departments.

The number of coaches at clubs or the number permitted to work at games on match day could also be cut as part of the changes being discussed.

The option to increase the draft age by six months and to trim the number of players on club lists to a number yet to be determined are among options being canvassed by the AFL as a way of overhauling club lists.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...players-coaches-at-clubs-20180725-p4ztgg.html

 

[RossFC]

The AFL is considering changes to the draft age and cutting the number of players and coaches at clubs as part of an overhaul of football departments.

The number of coaches at clubs or the number permitted to work at games on match day could also be cut as part of the changes being discussed.

The option to increase the draft age by six months and to trim the number of players on club lists to a number yet to be determined are among options being canvassed by the AFL as a way of overhauling club lists.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...players-coaches-at-clubs-20180725-p4ztgg.html

Not a fan of cutting the list size to "improve the standard of the state leagues". Port and crows are struggling as it is.

 

[Andre]

The AFL is considering changes to the draft age and cutting the number of players and coaches at clubs as part of an overhaul of football departments.

The number of coaches at clubs or the number permitted to work at games on match day could also be cut as part of the changes being discussed.

The option to increase the draft age by six months and to trim the number of players on club lists to a number yet to be determined are among options being canvassed by the AFL as a way of overhauling club lists.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...players-coaches-at-clubs-20180725-p4ztgg.html

LOL. So let's reduce the list size and make the odds of who wins the flag, more heavily dependent on injury lists. I suppose that does make a surprise premier more likely and the AFL's wet dream is every side wins once in 18 years.

Less coaches on game day could be ok. It may force coaches *cough* *Ken* *cough* to let players more instinctively.

My fear out of reduced list sizes, is big men taking longer to come on, we'd even more up shit creek, as Ken and co. use the reduced list sizes as an excuse for being overly stacked with flankers who can come in at the drop of a hat, over backup rucks and KPP's, who are still developing.

 

[Wind Power]

Not a fan of cutting the list size to "improve the standard of the state leagues". Port and crows are struggling as it is.

A better idea would be to remove two Melbourne based teams. That would free up a fair few players for the state leagues.

 

[Waspy79]

Not a fan of cutting the list size to "improve the standard of the state leagues". Port and crows are struggling as it is.

Next will be in-season trading and the poaching of state league players because lists are too small to cover injuries.

 

[_VXV]

I have a feeling there’ll be a multiball inclusion for games in my lifetime.

**** the afl

 

[Portmagpies36]

Next will be in-season trading and the poaching of state league players because lists are too small to cover injuries.

Can't wait for that ! Use those clubs for what the are, feeder clubs ungrateful irrelevant feeder clubs !

 

[Ateen7tee]

A better idea would be to remove two Melbourne based teams. That would free up a fair few players for the state leagues.

They had their chance.

There could have been 16 teams in the league today if they'd had the balls to relocate the kangaroos north to the gold coast, and the bulldogs north to western sydney.

 

[DaTBird187]

I have a feeling there’ll be a multiball inclusion for games in my lifetime.

**** the afl

Ahhh Blurnsball, they never knew how accurate the prophecy would be.