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Much prefer them than Collingwood, Carlton, Essendon, Geelong, Hawthorn, Sydney and Adelaide.

Unlike the Hawks and Cats recent successful periods, the Tigers haven't benefited from the timing of expansion, they haven't got any priority picks on their list, and they haven't had Stevic gift them finals wins. The Tigers don't have players to dislike, their coach is a former Port premiership player and good guy who has done the hard yards. They haven't had salary cap concessions, they haven't cheated with drugs (rogues Justin Charles and probably the Push-up King aside) and they aren't the Crows.

The only thing I dont like is that they played Geelong and Crows in 'away' finals at the MCG in 2017 - but that isn't their fault.
Agree for the most part with this post, but strongly disagree with the bolded. Alex Rance is right up there with the most dislikeable players in the league.
 

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Seriously though. How long do we think the suns will last? I think the AFL will keep them around.
There's a few factors here that ensure they will stay.
1. The AFL needs 9 games a week for TV revenue, so we've got 18 teams. And even a shit show GC provide more TV viewers then a Tassie (or NT) side.
2. Related is for TV the AFL wants to be able to have 2 QLD sides on TV each week.
3. The AFL wants to be the only truly national Winter sporting code. That requires a presence in South QLD as long as other sports are trying to be there.
4. The AFL long term wants to cement that support into kids playing AFL in South QLD.

For GC (and GWS, heck even Brisbane), it doesn't matter if they suck on-field and everyone wants to leave, they make more from the extra TV money of 9 games, then what they cost the AFL to prop up. If they cost twice as much, they'd still be worth it. The nuffies wanting money from GC to go to clubs like North or St. Kilda completely miss the point.

Now separate from that, but thrown in sometimes is saying ship them to Tassie. As above it's not a meaningful suggestion. What is, is 10 Victorian versus 9 Vic teams + 1 Tassie team, the latter, IMO, is a viable shift. Tassie is tiny, but any side there is getting close to 100% of Tassie sponsorship versus the dregs left in Victoria to Saints, Bulldogs or North after the behemoths of Richmond, Collingwood, Essendon and Hawks (shit even Carlton off-field) have taken the bulk of it.
 

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Agree for the most part with this post, but strongly disagree with the bolded. Alex Rance is right up there with the most dislikeable players in the league.
Hehe, knew that wouldn't please everyone. I love watching him play, but agree he has had his moments of petulance with the odd dive thrown in for good measure.
 

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Hobart SUNS sounds alright
This so true

You go to Tazzy off season and all they do is talk footy

Go to any graveyard ...most gravestones have St Kilda, Essendon, North Melbourne etc colours on them!

A football crazy state

Of course as there is only 10k Suns fans you don't need to keep the Suns part in the name

Would have to be Tas Devils

Statistics smatistics ...

They would unite and immediately be fanaticaly successful

I feel its a actually an insult and very transparent money raking this Tazzy Hawks BS
 

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There's a few factors here that ensure they will stay.
1. The AFL needs 9 games a week for TV revenue, so we've got 18 teams. And even a shit show GC provide more TV viewers then a Tassie (or NT) side.
2. Related is for TV the AFL wants to be able to have 2 QLD sides on TV each week.
3. The AFL wants to be the only truly national Winter sporting code. That requires a presence in South QLD as long as other sports are trying to be there.
4. The AFL long term wants to cement that support into kids playing AFL in South QLD.

For GC (and GWS, heck even Brisbane), it doesn't matter if they suck on-field and everyone wants to leave, they make more from the extra TV money of 9 games, then what they cost the AFL to prop up. If they cost twice as much, they'd still be worth it. The nuffies wanting money from GC to go to clubs like North or St. Kilda completely miss the point.

Now separate from that, but thrown in sometimes is saying ship them to Tassie. As above it's not a meaningful suggestion. What is, is 10 Victorian versus 9 Vic teams + 1 Tassie team, the latter, IMO, is a viable shift. Tassie is tiny, but any side there is getting close to 100% of Tassie sponsorship versus the dregs left in Victoria to Saints, Bulldogs or North after the behemoths of Richmond, Collingwood, Essendon and Hawks (shit even Carlton off-field) have taken the bulk of it.
Disagree on 2)
 

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Seriously though. How long do we think the suns will last? I think the AFL will keep them around.
The league may be able to keep the club around, but the league wont be able to keep their drafted players around. I can imagine Gil and Hocking seeing that lack of control as the problem instead of as a symptom of something else. GWS have done so much better with their initial list management advantages, where GC went and squandered much of it on a punt on Ablett. That on top of GC probably getting more of a kick out of Karmichael Hunt than GWS did out of bloody Folau. Both clubs well shot of those "marquee" signings.

To put it in terms Tony Cochrane might understand, in motor racing if you keep building un-competitive cars year on year you don't go looking for a hand grenade motor that may win you a few races for publicity but do nothing for championship hope. What you do is sack most of the bloody design team and start again from there. But the difference is you don't get the luxury of designing and building a whole new design team let alone a whole brand new race car every year in AFL.

GWS by comparison has built a great car and has a good crew but IMO is hampered by being led by a blisteringly average "team manager" (Cameron).
 

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Gillon and the AFL already trying to water back the AFLW to 6 rounds.
This is going to end well.
#gillonout
Way to keep interest in a new league. :thumbsdown: After three rounds half the supporters would have no hope of finals.
 

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20 year high school reunion tonight. Totally footy related as 2 of my class mates slept with at least half of the inaugural power squad :D
Did they ever have Primus cook the bacon and eggs in nothing but an apron... which he only put on because the bacon got a but spotty?
 

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No, RFA is only match the offer. The player can still walk into the draft. Which with 10 Vic sides makes it a fairly hollow threat for Vic players wanting home. There’s always going to be Vic clubs near the bottom of the ladder that’ll jump on them, even if the player has said they want to go to another Vic club.

This is why, although GC is a shit show, I’d rather them in the competition then skew the balance of Vics to non-Vic sides further.

They aren’t the 2nd and 3rd best players, but if I was Drafting for GC I’d be tempted to take the pick 3 compo and grab both the King twins. Get them playing together, built in anti-homesickness and having played together at the highest level a good chance they won’t want to split up to go to different clubs, by bailing out.
Wow, thanks for clarifying this.

RFA is a waste of time then, just make it UFA from year 8.
 

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I'm pro Gold Coast remaining and moving a Melb club to Tasmania.

5k-10k Melbourne members remaining from the move and probably 30k Tassie members is more than enough for a team. Give them 12 home games a year, 6 in Hobart, 6 in Launceston, and I'm sure they will sell out EVERY game across both grounds.

I just can't see why the AFL would not want this to occur based on the lack of financial backing Tassie might not have, but yet we'll pump crazy money into GC and GWS.
 

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Gillon and the AFL already trying to water back the AFLW to 6 rounds.

This is going to end well.

#gillonout
This is what happens when you confuse gender equality with commercial equality.

Costwise, AFLW is a gigantic sinkhole. Player and support staff wages, hotels, airfares, stadium operating/leasing costs and everything in between against what revenue? The odd sponsorship. There'd be grant money. But there's zero money coming in at the gate and Fox wouldn't have paid any extra to broadcast it (the league would be covering the costs to broadcast it, if anything).

That said, it's not the players' fault the league expanded to 10 teams including to bloody Tasmania.
 

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I just can't see why the AFL would not want this to occur based on the lack of financial backing Tassie might not have...
Dear Miss Perry, my Year 10 English teacher, would have done more that just punch kids or slam their heads into the desk if they wrote a sentence like that :drunk:
 

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Dear Miss Perry, my Year 10 English teacher, would have done more that just punch kids or slam their heads into the desk if they wrote a sentence like that :drunk:
lol sorry,

I can't understand how the AFL can ignore Tasmania due to a lack of potential financial backing, yet they are prepared to pump loads of money into GC & GWS.
 

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lol sorry,

I can't understand how the AFL can ignore Tasmania due to a lack of potential financial backing, yet they are prepared to pump loads of money into GC & GWS.
Because Tassie will grow slowly over the next 20 years.

Western Sydney and the Gold Coast area will be large growth areas - economy, population and AFL interest.
 

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lol sorry,

I can't understand how the AFL can ignore Tasmania due to a lack of potential financial backing, yet they are prepared to pump loads of money into GC & GWS.
DRAINAGE! #therewillbeblood

That said, GWS and GCS will be the AFL's Vietnam. Pouring zillions into a battle for hearts and minds that is already lost.
 

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2019's festival of footy

Thursday 18 April: Thursday Night Footy
Friday 19 April: Good Friday game
Saturday 20 April: Four games
Sunday 21 April: Easter Sunday – two games
Monday 22 April: Geelong v Hawthorn
Tuesday 23 April: No footy
Wednesday 24 April: Richmond v Melbourne
Thursday 25 April: Anzac Day – Collingwood v Essendon
Friday 26 April: Friday Night Footy
Saturday 27 April: Four games
Sunday 28 April: Two games

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-03/easter-anzac-day-fixture-logjam-looms-in-2019
That would be good but you just know half of those stand alone fixtures will just be "blockbuster" VFL games.
 

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Numbers continue to be a problem for The Footy Show, last night beaten by Seven newcomer The Front Bar both nationally and in Melbourne.

While Seven drew 362,000 for its Mick Molloy-led panel Nine’s Footy Show (including a later NRL edition in Sydney) was 348,000. Comparing Melbourne AFL audiences alone the gap is much bigger with 274,000 for Seven vs 193,000 for Nine. How it can improve on those numbers is anyone’s guess….
Front bar has been shitting all over the footy show for years now... well, last year at least.

i have no idea how the footy show is still on the air.
 

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I reckon it’s more like Vegas. Relatively young party town with a partially transient population.
Relatively young?

The Gold Coast is largely a retirement village largely populated by ex-Victorians. I suspect the AFL was banking on most of these to jump on the GCS bandwagon but I wouldn't think there would be many older people to switch their VFL/AFL allegiance.
 
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