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I don't remember the Robertson goal you're referring to, but I feel the throw should only come in if it is getting rid of the ball. "Throwing" to yourself is ok - if it's not then bouncing the ball is technically "throwing" as it is propelling it by hand.

I have no issue with Higgins' goal, was a great spectacle, too.
Robertson threw it around the right point post, upwards, swung around the post, grabbed it and snapped a left foot goal. I agree with what you are saying, but the rule is clearer about throwing it to yourself in this situation.

The once in a blue moon situation that I have thought about and would like to see one day and how the umpires would rule is the following situation;

Lets say you had a player who had the yips kicking for goal and was 30m out or didnt have the yips but had to kick from 50m out and didnt think he could get the distance. He goes back about 6 or 7m from the mark, sticks his arms out Christ the Redeemer like statute from Rio, palms facing up and has the ball sitting on one hand. He holds the ball out for 10 seconds and a teammate who is a good kick for goal, runs past and takes the ball off his hands and kicks the goal. Is that allowed? Is that correct or incorrect disposal? If not allowed, why?

If you were in a pack and there was not free, ball still in play, did the same thing for a split second, would it be ok if your teammate grabbed the ball off your hand or if the opposition grabbed the ball? Is that treated as a fumble is treated or stealing the ball in a tackle??
 

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I'm glad you added 'on all sides' there, because some of the entitled shit being sprouted by some of the AFLW players right now is extraordinary.

It's like the 130 years of men's AFL football before it became fully professional never happened. You had to leave your family and move somewhere else to follow your dream? Well boo ******* hoo, nobody told you you had to do this. One is even moaning that she may have to go back to her day job as a doctor.

They want to go from no league at all to the same as men in a couple of years when it should rightly take generations to build.

The AFL had no obligation to create, run and fund this. Tell them to **** off and run it themselves and see how they go.
Yeah, I'm seeing a lot of comment on twitter that could not be more divorced from reality.

It's an absolute 'show and one that the Derpmaster-In-Chief should've predicted once certain columnists for major metropolitan papers began writing things like, "pay'em the same as the men" and "Erin could play AFL".

Cripes.
 

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I wondered where Tippett learnt to throw his head back every time he went for the ball, thanks B F. ;)
It was called "staging" a long time ago and let's be honest some Port players past n present were pretty good at it.
Even the great Wangas was not above it, used to make me cringe. For out n out laughs I used to smile and shake my head watching
Che Cockatoo-Collins go about his theatrics. Can remember yelling out at Footy Pk once "onya Cocky you loveable show-off "
 

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Gill'n'Steve clunked their noggins together and reduced the length of the season while expanding to 10 teams.
I forgot February is expansion to 10 teams. Geelong and North in, then 4 more in 2020 inc Richmond.

Pity one of them is not Richmond. If they go back to back they would get 50,000 turn up in March to watch the women's team play. Haha They would demand it was at the G despite still being cricket season and those greedy pricks would probably say yep 50,000 justifys stuffing up the pitch when we only get 500 to a shield game in February.

They were never going to have 9 games plus a final. So what is it? 2 conferences of 5, 4 games each side and then a top 4 finals series? or just playing 5 or 6 games with no conference?
 

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Juxtaposing the Higgins goal to the Sam Powell-Pepper's goal - throwing the ball a bit upwards to kick the ball is fine. There is no definition of what is the correct way to kick the ball. ....
There is nothing wrong with throwing the ball up to kick it provided it is all in the one action. Throwing the ball in the air and then stepping around behind the goal post is a throw.
 

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There is nothing wrong with throwing the ball up to kick it provided it is all in the one action. Throwing the ball in the air and then stepping around behind the goal post is a throw.
Where does it say that in the rules?

Oh its an interpretation. Where is the book of interpretations?
 

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I don't remember the Robertson goal you're referring to, but I feel the throw should only come in if it is getting rid of the ball. "Throwing" to yourself is ok - if it's not then bouncing the ball is technically "throwing" as it is propelling it by hand. ...
The definition of a throw in Aussie Rules is elevating the ball with an open hand. A bounce like a palm down can never be considered a throw.
 

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There is nothing wrong with throwing the ball up to kick it provided it is all in the one action. Throwing the ball in the air and then stepping around behind the goal post is a throw.
Not if you kick it before it lands on the ground or in the possession of another player.
 

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This is what happens when you confuse gender equality with commercial equality.

Costwise, AFLW is a gigantic sinkhole. Player and support staff wages, hotels, airfares, stadium operating/leasing costs and everything in between against what revenue? The odd sponsorship. There'd be grant money. But there's zero money coming in at the gate and Fox wouldn't have paid any extra to broadcast it (the league would be covering the costs to broadcast it, if anything).

That said, it's not the players' fault the league expanded to 10 teams including to bloody Tasmania.
This is the exact point. It's not commercially viable, so if you're prepared to go ahead with it anyway, stop making decisions based on commercial realities. Typical AFL half assed, trying to please everyone but pleasing nobody type arrangement.
 

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DRAINAGE! #therewillbeblood

That said, GWS and GCS will be the AFL's Vietnam. Pouring zillions into a battle for hearts and minds that is already lost.
GWS are at least workable based on the idea that if you can capture even a small percentage of that massive market it'll all be pretty sweet. GC is just a cash vacuum.
 

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Not if you kick it before it lands on the ground or in the possession of another player.
If it lands and then you kick it wouldn't that just be an elevated drop kick?

Edit: and if it does end up in the possession of another player isn't that just the same as having your kicked smothered, the old "stolen off the boot" trick.
 

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I'm pro Gold Coast remaining and moving a Melb club to Tasmania.

5k-10k Melbourne members remaining from the move and probably 30k Tassie members is more than enough for a team. Give them 12 home games a year, 6 in Hobart, 6 in Launceston, and I'm sure they will sell out EVERY game across both grounds.

I just can't see why the AFL would not want this to occur based on the lack of financial backing Tassie might not have, but yet we'll pump crazy money into GC and GWS.
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They will sell out every game

They are footy crazy
 

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uh, you know the tigers have won like 20 straight at the mcg right? and that geelong aren't very good?
That and the Tigers are a hybrid of 2000 Essendon, 2011 Geelong and Ghandi all rolled into one and are un-backable favourites for the flag so may as well give it to them now because they tell jokes on the field and Alex Rance is Jesus (the Jehovah’s Witness version) - AFL media 2018


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